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Crazy MIL ruining my relationship after giving birth. NEED ADVICE!

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Saskia98 · 21/05/2024 22:47

For context I’m a FTM to a 10 week old baby. Super long one but please bare with. I don’t know if anyone else has experienced this but people on my partners side are very judgemental on the fact if my baby is crying I don’t want to give him to other people to hold. This is particularly an issue with MIL, for example one time I was holding my son and as soon as he starts crying (because he was hungry) she rushes over and puts her arms out to take him and says “give him here” I told her no. Another occasion I was holding LO trying to get him to sleep as he was really overtired, she asked if she could hold him I said yes as he was content at that moment, when I was passing him to her he started screaming so I said “aww he’s crying let me calm him”, all the while she was still trying to take him off me not letting go off him for a good 5-10 seconds. This happened when his parents and friends were round (they’re all Romanian, I’m English), and when this happened one of the friends said in Romanian to his mum “isn’t she going to let you hold him?” So I wouldn’t understand but my partner told me after. A couple of hours later (after MIL held him) he still wasn’t sleeping so whilst everyone was in the garden (smoking may I add, so I didn’t want LO around this either) I had him with me in the living room with the lights off so it was dark and quiet trying to rock him to sleep. My partner told me a few days later in an argument “everyone can see what you’re like, not letting MIL hold LO when he was crying and you were being so unsociable when everyone was in the garden and you were in the living room with LO”. Literally making out like everyone was talking about me. I would also like to add my MIL and I have had issues in the past, my partner had recently told me she continuously tried to get him to break up with me our whole relationship, even when I was pregnant (he said they’ve done this to every friendship or relationship he’s had as he’s an only child and they’re scared of ‘losing’ him so they don’t like things going well for him). When pregnant she told me “you look after the baby when he’s in your stomach and I look after him once he’s born”.She insisted on staying over the first night we came home with him, I didn’t want her to but told her I would wake him at a certain time to feed him (at the time he had jaundice so I had to wake him to be fed), when I woke up she then told me she already fed him. She showed up to our house without letting us know, I’ve lost count on the amount of ‘jokes’ she’s made about taking him to Romania without me. She bought a cot and car seat for her place without telling me, which he has and will never.m be staying over night there. Her and her husband have no problem arguing with my partner loudly in front of LO. We rent our place from them and when I finally set boundaries she blocked me on Facebook and threatened to kick us (including her own grandson) out. She continuously pulls the grandparent card. She moans at DH about me for feeding my own son (he’s both bf and bottle) and doing his nappy and not letting her do it (the last time she done his nappy she insisted on taking him to a separate room). His parents used to have physical fights when growing up and I don’t trust them to look after LO alone on the small chance of this happening and I’m not there to get LO out of the situation. My partner said if this was the other way round and it was my parents like it he would want me to cut them off. I’ll admit since MIL threatening to kick us out and making jokes about taking LO, I’ve not trusted her at all with him and even when I’m there I’m still on edge and don’t let her help as much anymore as what I previously did.

We’ve had countless about them as they’re his parents and he’s upset I won’t trust his mum with LO on her own etc. He’s a good dad and does his fair share with looking after the baby on weekends when he’s home from work but when we disagree with things he won’t even give any attention to LO and there’s been a couple of times when he’s just walked out after an argument. He’ll stand up for me infront of his parents but he’s acting like I’m the problem. I’m on maternity leave and I tend to do most the tidying late at night when DH and LO are sleeping as I genuinely do not have time during the day with look after LO. The house isn’t as tidy as it obviously used to be before we had baby and sometimes the washing gets built up and I don’t have the energy to tidy during the nights. During arguments he says I’m a great mum but what do I actually do all day because the cleanings not done and he does the cooking for us in the evenings. I feel like he needs a reality check as I stay up every night until 3 or 4am tidying or looking after LO and only sleep for a few hours in the morning. DH looks after LO for around 4 or 5 hours in the morning on weekends so I can sleep and a couple of hours before work on weekdays. This is the only chance I get to sleep. I tell him I appreciate him looking after our son in the morning but I need him to do some nights for me so I can actually get a nights sleep instead, but he never does help with the nights even on days he’s not working because he’s “too tired” and “he goes to work” even after having full night sleeps every single night and sometimes napping when he gets home from work or on weekends. Sometimes when I’m talking to him he will just full on ignore me because he’s not interested in what I’m saying (to be fair he’s been like this before I was pregnant but with the other issues between us now it’s really started to take a toll on things). I had an episiotomy and he watched the whole birth and now he’s not ready for us to be intimate again as he says he’s ’traumatised’ and ‘he keeps getting flashbacks of the sound of me being cut’. I know it’s not his fault for feeling this way but it’s making me feel so unattractive, especially as we’re barely affectionate in other ways now. I know people say you get in a roommate stage after having a baby but I don’t know how to get out of this rut.

Don’t get me wrong, he was amazing throughout my pregnancy and labour and really advocated for me during it. We had an amazing relationship the first month postpartum but things now have rapidly gone downhill. It’s not all him and I’ve also probably said some not nice things out of tiredness etc and he does so much for me and our son and we still have good times together but there’s starting to be times now that I really dislike him. I don’t know where to go from here as it’s really starting to put a strain on our relationship and I feel so guilty for our son as I just want things to be good again so he can grow up in a happy family unit. I’ve mentioned going to couples counselling but he thinks it’s a waste of money and doesn’t think we have any problems. Any advice would be much appreciated

OP posts:
Savemydrink · 21/05/2024 23:37

Wow, you sound like really hard work.

This was really hard to read as it sounds like one really massive, never ending whinge.

You spend the first half telling us you won’t let relatives help with your baby, then you complain that you don’t have time to clean house because you have to look after baby.

Not sure exactly what you want here.

Your poor partner spends 2 hours every morning looking after the baby while you sleep, then he goes to work. When he gets home he cooks for you, then you complain he doesn’t get up in the night to do more baby minding.

Weekends he lets you sleep in for 5 hours and still this is not enough for you.

if you can’t cope with looking after one small baby and keeping your house clean then I suggest you allow mother in law to give you a hand.

You sound very controlling and also very ungrateful

B1rd · 21/05/2024 23:48

One of the hardest things I found after the birth of my DD was handing her over to my MIL. My MIL is a lovely lady and had three children of her own, but she wasn't my Mum. But you do have to let go of your child on occasions to let others love them too. Grand parents get excited about a new treasure.

I can understand that the arguments about the rented house have come from your protectiveness of your son. It would be wise to let your sons Grand mother spend some time with him too. It is a total joy for Grandparents to be involved, even if your gut instincts are saying that you want to love and adore your child yourself.

I dont understand why you are up half the night tidying though. Sleep when your son does, then through his morning and afternoon naps, tidy up.

It sounds like tensions have reached a height, but I think that you're the only person who can calm them down by handing over your son on occasions to your MIL to enjoy him, whilst you are around.

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Saskia98 · 21/05/2024 23:55

@Savemydrink lol I think you’re missing the point here. I’m not saying I’m not allowing relatives to help with baby at all. I appreciate help from my partner and other relatives that I trust. Like I said the issues with how controlling my MIL was previously, literally acting like my baby is her own and making jokes about kidnapping him is why I don’t feel comfortable. She also shamed me numerous times when LO was in hospital with jaundice for not exclusively breastfeeding as he wasn’t latching properly at the time.

I am also grateful for my partner. I said I feel like he’s needs a reality check as he doesn’t know how much I do (literally 20 hours non stop everyday either looking after LO or upkeeping the house for the past 10 weeks with not a single night of more than a couple hours sleep whilst he sleeps through every single night even when he has a week or 2 off work). This isn’t me saying he does any less, but I wish he would realise what I actually do so he doesn’t think I’m doing f* all 24/7.

OP posts:
Guavafish1 · 21/05/2024 23:57

Your MIL sounds very difficult but your DH needs to step up and help you/protect you from his family.

It's very early and you'll be very anxious about letting baby go somewhere else. But I would ask the MIL for help. Maybe start small ... few hours in the afternoon and see how she behaves and cares for your DS. Then take it from there...

Vanillalime · 22/05/2024 00:07

I don’t think you sound like hard work at all, more like tired & unsupported.

Your baby is still so small it’s understandable you are protective and want to soothe him yourself; and keeping him away from smoke is just sensible.

Maybe you could put some boundaries in place and start to build trust with your MIL by getting her involved in small things you feel comfortable with. For example you could allow her to change a nappy, but not take him out the room you are in. Or if she is holding him & he cries she can try to soothe him, but if he cries for longer than a minute she hands him back.

Maddy70 · 22/05/2024 06:12

Gently
You are being way too overprotective. You are shutting everyone else out when they are there to support you

You are tired but wont let anyone else sooth your baby. Go to bed. Let them look after the baby while you sleep

Newnamehiwhodis · 22/05/2024 06:21

Yikes, don’t know what the heck is wrong with that first person who replied … but no, you do not sound like a lot of work.
i wouldn’t want to hand my baby over to someone who made “jokes” about taking him; I wouldn’t want my baby taken care of by someone who had physical fights in front of their kid, and I would not want to take my baby outside amongst a bunch of smoking people!! FFS!

your husband needs to shape up, or lose you.

it’s not sustainable, what you’ve been asked to cope with.

If he doesn’t agree to counseling after a serious talk, it is not a good sign at all, OP.

TheLilacZebra · 10/08/2024 22:34

That first reply makes me feel sick to my stomach!

I know exactly how you feel, my little one is 4 months old. My ex and his mum made postpartum period extremely difficult for me. I had my son on Thursday, home on Friday and on Saturday my ex received a message from his mother telling him that she WANTED to take the baby out to her house and that she would be lifting him…. She didn’t ask me (babys sole carer as the dad was useless and not present at all a part from an hour here and there) bearing in mind we were only just out of hospital, it was my time to bound with baby and get to know baby’s needs, plus they never have the heat on in their house and I would have always been sick in it nvm a newborn.

when I refused, the whole family shut me out and called me difficult and worse. They slandered me to pieces after just giving birth.

another occasion my ex invited his whole family in last minute. During this time he wasn’t present at all in baby’s life, I had taken an infection in my wound and was in a lot of pain/ very sick. When I said could we rearrange, I was shouted at by him calling me selfish. His mum and sister also said that I was faking it and there was nothing wrong with me.

fast forward to a nasty court case, baby’s dad saw him for the first time in 3/4 months two weeks ago. 15 mins before the end, his mother pulled her car up beside me in a car park full of spaces. His sister got out of the car to glare in at me, when I looked out the window they both stood laughing at me. She only got back in the car when I drove off.

apologies for the rant myself! But I completely get where you are coming from with mils. I felt my first few weeks and even now with baby has been ruined, I’ve struggled to enjoy any of it and never leave the house as I’m too scared to bump into them in town.

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