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How can I love my husband again

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Onceuponatime25 · 05/05/2024 19:00

Hello lovely people! I hope I’m not repeating a thread for this topic here; I just couldn’t find an answer to my question about my relationship with DH.

I am a mother of two young children (6 & 2) in my early 30s and work a full-time office job Monday to Friday, while DH, who is the same age as me, is a police officer. We have been married for 8 years and dated for 2 years before our marriage. I am not from the UK, but my DH is, and we live here. All of my family is in their country, and DH’s parents split up when he was 15; we regularly see his mother and occasionally his father with his new wife. I have been living in DH’s country for 13 years now, and before that, I lived in a few other countries due to my educational choices. My DH has never lived outside of his village; he lived with his mother until we got married.

I had PTSD due to child abuse and other issues when I met DH, and DH has ADHD. I chose to marry him when he proposed to me because I was desperate for feeling loved in a secure environment (marriage), and he proposed to me because he didn’t want me to go back to my country, which could potentially end our relationship.

After our wedding, DH became uninterested in me for the first three months; he refused me and did not have sex with me. He didn’t see any other girls as he never had friends, as he still doesn’t believe he needs one, but relieved his sexual drive by masturbating in private. I did not work at that time, and this made me feel rejected, unworthy, and worthless. I wanted to have a baby and connect with him again. I then got a job as soon as my spousal visa was issued, and that was when DH started showing interest in me again, and I became pregnant in the sixth month of our marriage. He was a factory worker at that time, and I was an academic assistant.

During my maternity leave with our first child, DH wanted to change his job and became interested in a police officer role. I supported him to apply for a special constable to begin with and gave as much time as he needed to focus on his personal development & applying for the new job as a police officer. He got in after the second attempt, and I started a side income business to financially support our family life as his police job salary was 20% less than what he was getting as a factory worker.

My business went well and started to generate three times more than my office job, so I quit my job and focused on my business.

We then agreed to have a second child, and DH promised me he would take his time off via shared parental leave so I can get back to my business after recovering from birthing the second child and stabilising it. My DH did not take his shared parental leave and said that his HR would not allow him to take one. I went back to work three weeks after giving birth to my second child; I still remember walking in pain to the supplier’s site, purchasing products, and driving them to my clients while I was still bleeding postpartum and picking up my first child from her school as my DH was on shift work.

I could not keep up with business demands and childcare at the same time; my health was going downhill, so I had to take a break from the business and care for my children full-time. When my body was fully healed and my second child was sleep-trained, my business clients already had other business plans, and I struggled to get back on track with how my business was. I was then scammed by a business consultant who promised to support me with marketing my business and used my savings to support us financially as DH’s income was very low.

DH was never interested in our finances, future plans, bills, house maintenance, or even mowing the grass in our garden; he wouldn’t proactively do anything for us despite me finding issues and bringing them up to him for discussion. When I used up all of my savings for my children and our family life (food, bills, nursery fees, etc.), I found out that I could claim Universal Credit/Jobseeker's Allowance until I generated income again, so I started to claim UC and gave up on my business dreams, started to look for jobs. One of the job recruitment agencies I came across scammed me and caused a loss of £23k; I reached out to my parents to borrow some money so I wouldn’t go bankrupt. All this time, DH didn’t know what to do and never helped me with anything other than helping to pay our mortgage. DH thought the recruitment agency was legit despite being a police officer and didn’t realise they were scamming me.

I went back to where I used to work before my business and am now full time employed. More than 50% of my salary from this employment is now going voluntarily towards the loan repayment, and I am living very frugally. I feel really sorry for my kids that I can’t provide more than I can afford at the moment.

I spoke to DH about managing things together as a family millions of times…I bought books for him to read/self-educate, we tried counseling, we had countless discussions, talks, arguments, sometimes raising our voices, cries, frustration, etc., but now I’m just depressed and exhausted. I can continue to work full-time and spend all of my money to repay the debts and look after my kids. But I now sleep with my kids in the kids' room, and I don’t feel anything for DH anymore. We haven’t properly spoken for 3 weeks now, and I still don’t want to speak to him. He doesn’t want to divorce or have a separation because he says his parents did that and doesn’t want our kids to go through what he had to go through between his divorcing parents.

I don’t know how long it can go like this in our house—I can’t picture myself being happy with DH at any point in my future life, but I also agree I don’t want my kids to find out if we split until they become adults. We don’t have anything we like or do in common, and I earn twice as much as DH and spend more time with the kids than him. I don’t need him, but my kids do. I feel I've lost the meaning of life, the feeling of happiness, and the motivation to succeed.

Can anyone relate to my experience in their marriage and please share their wisdom on how to overcome this? I would really appreciate your comments…thank you for reading my long tedious thread!

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HappyCaroline · 06/05/2024 01:04

It's not tedious, you sound so strong. You say you'd be able to leave him - Leave him x

You aren't teaching your children anything by staying. Show them what it means to be a strong mother and get out. You can still give them a relationship with their father, but all they're learning right now is that your relationship with their father is normal. What would you say to them if they were in a relationship like that?

Good luck

Justbrowsing2024 · 06/05/2024 01:08

Leave him.

bbq007 · 06/05/2024 01:17

I don't think leave him, the op. Asked how to get the love back. I don't think saying leave him are helpful suggestions frankly.

Hoolagan · 06/05/2024 08:55

I think you need marriage counselling or to leave him. You can’t go on like this

DustyLee123 · 06/05/2024 08:58

OP states that they’ve tried counselling. You need to end it.

Lemonem · 06/05/2024 08:59

Read the empowered wife book by Laura doyle

HappyCaroline · 06/05/2024 15:31

@Onceuponatime25 I get where@bbq007 is coming from, saying you asked for help to stay not leave, but nothing i read gives any indication that you want to stay.

However, they're right that you asked for support to stay so I found this last night and found it really helpful for myself. I copied it from the OP without saving their name but wish I could find them again because it was beautiful advice.

"How have dh managed it over the years.

  1. Accepting responsibility: It's very easy to blame your partner for everything wrong in your life. But ultimately we both had to recognise how decisions we weren't happy with had happened. For example I wouldn't have years of built up resentment for me DH over golf now because it would have addressed years ago. But if I didn't well its done.
  1. Acceptance: neither of us can change a single think that has happened before. So ruminating over it/ranting/using cold shoulder/silence only makes things worse.
  1. Time away from the kids, picking different things each of us wants to do.
  1. Increasing non sexual affection.
  1. Turning off the tv/phone sitting down with a drink or a tea and chocolates and being active in our family life and planning for the week/month ahead.
  1. Recognising that what we have built together has value. It means something to both of us.
  1. Spending time on our interests out side of the home and each other.
  1. Pretty much checking ourselves every single time we fall back into old habits.

9.Talking about goals/dreams/sex regularly.

  1. Recognising it isn't up to my husband or anyone else to make me feel good about myself.

  2. Recognising being bored sometimes is OK. Life can't be thrills and excitement all the time. And dissatisfaction sometimes is actually that. Being bored.

  3. Not wanting to get divorced on the same day. Honestly, that has allowed us time to recentre and think.

To give you context during our marriage we have faced business collapse/severe financial difficulties to the point of being in a whisper away from losing the houses/multiple miscarriages/loss of a child/child with severel health issues/number of health issues for me. So it hasn't been just waking up one day and saying oh I don't really fancy this any more.

We don't believe relationships should be particularly hard work. But we do agree if that if shit hits the fan it does take hard work to get back on track.

Along with all the normal day to stuff that comes with long term relationships.

Could we have an easier life with someone else?

Possibly, could someone give me that butterfly feeling other than my dh of course so could he find it with someone else.

But I love my husband and I value the challenges/wins/happiness we have experienced.

That doesn't mean I haven't wanted to walk away and never ever look back. Him the same"

Loubelle70 · 06/05/2024 15:38

bbq007 · 06/05/2024 01:17

I don't think leave him, the op. Asked how to get the love back. I don't think saying leave him are helpful suggestions frankly.

Its not OP who lost love initially it was her husband..i have no doubt its a porn issue. I think..get your ducks in line...talk to agencies you owe money to and talk about if you van lower payments as you are suffering domestic abuse..save that money you save to get out of there. Your kids sre seeing you not close to your husband..not sleeping together etc...kids aren't daft. You can do this alone...i wouldn't stay with anyone who didn't want to try at the marriage...he doesn't. Save and go

Summerhillsquare · 06/05/2024 15:54

I'm going to be horribly blunt here OP and say that you sound like a bit of a pushover or at least quite naive. How many times have you been scammed now?

You can only change your own behaviour. He's had no incentive to behave differently, not to excuse his weakness that is. Time to plan out a life YOU want, regardless of him. If he's got any sense he'll pull his socks up to come along for the ride, and you might find him more loveable.

Onceuponatime25 · 06/05/2024 22:08

@Summerhillsquare Hi, thank you for your encouragement to prioritise my self-care and fulfilment. I disagree with being labelled as quite naive or a pushover, as scams can happen to anyone regardless of their level of naivety or assertiveness. However, I appreciate your advice to take ownership of my actions, as this may potentially influence my husband to make changes himself, which could help me find him more likeable.

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Loubelle70 · 06/05/2024 22:13

Onceuponatime25 · 06/05/2024 22:08

@Summerhillsquare Hi, thank you for your encouragement to prioritise my self-care and fulfilment. I disagree with being labelled as quite naive or a pushover, as scams can happen to anyone regardless of their level of naivety or assertiveness. However, I appreciate your advice to take ownership of my actions, as this may potentially influence my husband to make changes himself, which could help me find him more likeable.

Good luck with that OP

Onceuponatime25 · 06/05/2024 22:25

@HappyCaroline Hi, thank you so much for taking the time to find useful advice for me and for encouraging me to stay strong for my kids and myself. You are right that none of my writing indicates I want to stay with my husband, and the majority of commenters suggest I should leave or end this relationship. I wasn't clear about what I was looking for—I think I wanted to know what else can be done to rectify the issues I have with my husband. But at the end, I realised that it is myself that needs to take ownership of my plans and actions.

I need a strategic plan for both options, either to leave or stay, and choose the best option that will make myself and my kids happy. Your comment helped me to understand that if I need help, reaching out for help will give me the assistance I need. Enjoy the rest of the week!

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Wooloohooloo · 06/05/2024 22:35

If you were "scammed" that suggests there was illegality involved- did you report the scammers to the police? How did you end up owing so much money to a recruitment agency? Were they finding work for you or employees?

Onceuponatime25 · 06/05/2024 22:36

@Loubelle70 Hi, thank you for your comments. As you say, I think I will reflect on my own choices I made in life and think about the impact I am making on my children due to my failure in the relationship with my husband. You are right, children aren't daft, and they sense that something is not right when parents aren’t close together. Unfortunately, it is very uncomfortable to sleep with my husband at the moment, but at least I shouldn't sleep with the kids in their room anymore…

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Wooloohooloo · 06/05/2024 22:39

Also, is he being honest about his salary as a police officer? They earn between £28k to £46k (just looked it up- not sure how the pay bands work). You earn double that?

Onceuponatime25 · 06/05/2024 22:41

@Lemonem Thanks, found it on audible, will listen to Laura Doyle’s podcasts too.

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Pinkypinkyplonk · 06/05/2024 22:42

As your children get older they will know that you’re not in a happy marriage. That’s no way to model parenting and good relationships to them.

Guavafish1 · 06/05/2024 22:52

Sorry to hear about your situation. it must be very difficult.

It's unfortunate your business venture did not succeed due to lack of support or childcare.

I don't think you or your husband were compatible from the start. You don't seem to have a connection except your children.

It's a difficult decision you have to make.

Dery · 06/05/2024 22:55

“Guavafish1 · Today 22:52
Sorry to hear about your situation. it must be very difficult.

It's unfortunate your business venture did not succeed due to lack of support or childcare.

I don't think you or your husband were compatible from the start. You don't seem to have a connection except your children.

It's a difficult decision you have to make.”

This. From what you say, you shouldn’t be fighting to keep this relationship. There’s too much wrong with it and it’s been wrong for too long.

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