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Unwanted advances

29 replies

HappFridays · 23/04/2024 12:05

For a bit of extra cash and exercise I do a paper round early mornings before I start my 9-5 job working from home. A man is constantly there in the mornings - putting something in his bin or something in his van and wants to chat. I have been polite but it has become unsettling and makes me feel uncomfortable. I am paid to deliver a newspaper not a counselling chat service. He was even waiting with some hand warmers one cold morning!? He has literally told me his life story and how he looks forward to our chats - he asked me if I want to come round at the weekends to watch movies with him - I politely said I am often busy at the weekends. I have tried everything - changing my route, going earlier or later but he is always there. I have started to be abrupt and just say good morning and walk away but he stands there stunned with his arms up in the air offended. Any advise ?

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category12 · 23/04/2024 17:11

I'm sure your experience was unpleasant, but I doubt you were under any actual threat or felt in any physical danger.

Whereas a woman out on her own delivering to houses in the early hours is in a far more vulnerable position. Especially when this man clearly waiting for her on the regular.

Summerhillsquare · 23/04/2024 17:59

I would be explaining to the employer I couldn't deliver to this house any more and why.

NewWater · 23/04/2024 18:05

Dadandhusband · 23/04/2024 16:52

For comparison I was recently accosted at work by someone informing me everyone was ogling me. To which laughter came from between 2 aisles then I was told to wait while 2 others came to look at me, then when they did they said phwoar yes please! Then I left. Guess what I'm a man, there was 5 women from ages 20s to 60s, now imagine how I felt. Creeped out, objectified? I genuinely tried to make a complaint but got laughed at, I told my wife, she laughed at it. This man fancies you, is possibly lonely, if there an age difference it's creepy, if there isn't how else is he supposed to approach a woman and make his intentions known..if it was an attractive man you'd be all smitten and asking a different question

Genuinely, can you not see the difference between these two experiences? Yours was unpleasant and objectifying, and shouldn't have happened, but you were in no danger of assault. The OP is female and alone, on dark mornings with this creep waiting for her, and clearly nursing some kind of fantasy in his head that makes him glare at her male friends in the pub.

And the fact that you think that waiting outside your house at dawn for someone trying to do her job is a normal way of asking a woman out suggests someone with very poor judgement.

HappFridays · 23/04/2024 19:24

@NewWater And the fact that you think that waiting outside your house at dawn for someone trying to do her job is a normal way of asking a woman out

This is the very issue - several times I have jumped out of my skin when he just 'appears' and it is the crack of dawn. The suggestion of watching TV with him on a Saturday night is hardly a way of asking me out - just a creepy and dangerous/vulnerable position to put me in. In answer to Dadandhusband he is 6 years older than me. Just because I am single does not mean I am easy pickings. It has been an eye opener I was just trying to earn a little extra cash and keep fit as I still work from home after covid. Although I enjoy the peace and early mornings I am going to stop doing the round as it has become unpleasant with this situation.

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