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Frustrated living with very "hands on" husband

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Stuffinmuffin · 19/04/2024 10:24

My husband is what you would describe as hands on. He is involved in everything because he involves himself in everything. He interferes in all the tasks I'm doing. It's suffocating at times. Mine washes, cooks, cleans but in a highly dysfunctional way which adds massively to my load. I wish he would just stop intervening but he doesn't stop despite asking him over and over.

Like this morning, we got up, all got dressed etc and I had 30 minutes to give the children breakfast before leaving the house. He takes it upon himself to empty the dishwasher and rearrange the cupboard at the same time rather than just going to work. There were dishes strewn all over the kitchen worktop leaving no space for me to make their breakfast and and packed lunches. Usually, this time is perfectly adequate for what I need to do. I don't like making packed lunches the evening before they're much better fresh in the morning. The issue is that he can not see priorities at all. It has been 10 years of having to point out what the priorities are domestically but he still doesn't grasp it. I could have emptied the dishwasher on my lunch break, he could have just gone to work but instead he gets in the way.

He'll load washing in the evenings when I've asked him not to because I then stay up late drying it when I want to go to bed. It's me that has to deal with all the washing because I work from home and he is out if the house 10 hours a day. I don't mind doing it, I wish he wouldn't interfere as he just manages to balls up my system creating more work for me. He has OCD about needing to see the bottom of the laundry basket. Something he admits. Or he'll do 3 loads on a Sunday morning when we're supposed to be going out for the day and I'm left with piles and piles to put away when we get home. He'll say "I don't know where anything goes..." so it's all left to me! His help is extremely unhelpful.

He'll begin a DIY project at 10pm, just as I'm wanting to go to sleep and he's up and down the stairs being loud and restless. I'm on pins that he may wake the children.

Sometimes he'll be cleaning the bathroom in the morning when everyone is rushing, when I'm waiting to get in the shower because I have somewhere to be and the only way I can get him to stop is by shouting at him because I need to get ready.

I love him as a person but I'm not sure I can live with him anymore. I feel like I'm losing the will! Would it be ridiculous to end my marriage over something like this? Living together feels like an endurance test at times. I'm really not interested in any suggestions of him being neurodivergent, I'm aware of that, more bothered about how the situation is getting to me at this point.

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Watchkeys · 19/04/2024 14:54

CactusMactus · 19/04/2024 14:39

I feel like divorcing him because his laundry schedule doesn't work with yours is a big much.

Bit of a lack of understanding here.

GingerIsBest · 19/04/2024 14:59

I absolutely loathe the immediate assumption that a useless DH is ND. But this does sound like it could be something related to poor executive function.

Having said that, if he's not willing to address that, you absolutely should not have to put up with it. And i would be telling him very clearly and firmly that from now on, when he does this stuff, you will NOT put up with it and if you speak to him in a sharp or unpleasant manner, this is why (and I speak as someone whose DH probably has the same inattentive ADHD that DS has drives me mad for similar reasons. On plus side, I HAVE been able to make DH understand, sometimes, why this isn't okay).

So, washing - he puts washing on, you will NOT be hanging it up. Head to bed telling him that when the washing is done, he must sort it. If it is still in the machine in the morning you can either dump it on his side of the bed or, if you are less passive aggressive, rewash it (a quick cycle will freshen it enough in my experience).

If he wants to clean the bathroom while you're doing the. morning rush, you'll simply be stepping into the shower nonetheless. This kind of selfish, inconsiderate effort will not be tolerated.

If he's makign more work at breakfast (and MAN, do I get this one. DH will sit on chores for hours and then want to do them all while I'm also trying to cook dinner. Drives me MAD), tell him firmly no.

DIY at 10pm at night making a noise "DH, stop being so selfish and be QUIET".

sadly, I haven't completely nailed t with DH. I have to ignore a lot more than I'd like. But the big ones are sorted. And he does get it that sometimes I'm going to be bloody pissed off. Yesterday he went off and did favours for 3 other people, completely ignoring the fact that he'd agreed to make dinner as I was working late. He just didn't think and I was SOO cross but he understood why.

MsMarch · 19/04/2024 15:00

Stuffinmuffin · 19/04/2024 14:54

If I tell him I'm ready to divorce him he'll say "how ridiculous will that sound- she divorced me because I used the washing machine. If you want to divorce me over that it's your problem." See how crafty he is?

@AmaryllisNightAndDay I've been shouting a lot this year. He has told me that my shouting has caused him to feel unattracted to me. It has not had the desired effect. He can't even have sex with me apparently because I'm "so angry."

Well, I did once tell DH in similar situation sthat I didn't want to have sex with someone who seemed to be completely incompetent and expected me to be his mother, PA and boss all rolled into one. It was quite effective.

Bunnyhair · 19/04/2024 15:04

This sounds unbearable, OP. No advice, but I understand why you would not be able to live with this and want to part ways. He cannot collaborate or work as a team. He cannot acknowledge how his actions affect anyone else. He is in his own little world where his drives and compulsions take priority over everything else. And he can’t control it and won’t seek help with it and believes the problem is with you for being affected by it. In his mind the problem is your anger, not what he is doing to provoke it.

I don’t see any hope that this will change. But you can have a calmer life without him.

eggsandbaconeveryday · 19/04/2024 15:13

Your OH is definitely ND and needs support to manage this. It would help you both if he were to be diagnosed so that you can work on ways to help manage his OCD and compulsiveness. I certainly wouldn't be clearing up after him , he needs to see things through

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 19/04/2024 15:14

Stuffinmuffin · 19/04/2024 14:54

If I tell him I'm ready to divorce him he'll say "how ridiculous will that sound- she divorced me because I used the washing machine. If you want to divorce me over that it's your problem." See how crafty he is?

@AmaryllisNightAndDay I've been shouting a lot this year. He has told me that my shouting has caused him to feel unattracted to me. It has not had the desired effect. He can't even have sex with me apparently because I'm "so angry."

I think there's a good chance he has ADHD. I think there's also a good chance he's very selfish and while having ADHD might explain the impulses it's not a get out of jail free card . He's being very disingenuous here. If you divorced him it would be because his behaviour is having a big negative impact on you, making your life much harden then it needs to be and he's not interested in listening to you let alone trying to manage his behaviour so it doesn't effect you so badly. Maybe he can't change how he is, with the impulses, but he should care that his behaviour is effecting you this much.

Watchkeys · 19/04/2024 15:17

eggsandbaconeveryday · 19/04/2024 15:13

Your OH is definitely ND and needs support to manage this. It would help you both if he were to be diagnosed so that you can work on ways to help manage his OCD and compulsiveness. I certainly wouldn't be clearing up after him , he needs to see things through

You sound very certain.

I wouldn't take this as a professional or even educated diagnosis, OP. Your husband isn't 'definitely' anything, on the strength of what you've told us, and anybody who says he is is wildly surmising with very little foundation.

GingerPirate · 19/04/2024 15:17

loveroflentils · 19/04/2024 10:27

always been like this?

i couldn’t live with this

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60andsomething · 19/04/2024 15:18

I think he has as much right to decide how and when things are done as you do

skipit81 · 19/04/2024 15:23

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Opentooffers · 19/04/2024 15:26

From what you say, hes doing jobs that dont need doing then, but they will need doing at some point so in some regard its helpful. The exta work for you looks like its coming from him doing half tasks and an inability to finish them off, meaning you have to at inconvenient times.
Have you tried putting your foot down and telling him that if he starts a job, he has to see it through to the end ? If he puts washing on late, he has to wait till its dried and sort it out. You are picking up his half done jobs, half doing jobs in lots of different areas is classic for ADHD, as is acting on impulse - in a way its compensating from knowing you'll get distracted and forget, so have to do it when thought of in that instant. He doesnt finish it as distraction and attention to something else happens meantime.
Remind him that he has done half a job, then leave it. Don't finish the job off yourself. Go to bed, if his clothes remain in the washing marchine, thats on him. In fact make it so he has to finish the job if he wants clothes to wear, make him in charge of his own laundry and have nothing to do with it. He will learn to follow through with that task if he finds he's no clothes to wear.
In a general sence, I'd dig in and refuse to finish off all tssks he starts. You might have to grit your teeth for a while and ignore a mess etc. but it might get him to adapt and make the point hit home.

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 19/04/2024 15:27

Stuffinmuffin · 19/04/2024 14:54

If I tell him I'm ready to divorce him he'll say "how ridiculous will that sound- she divorced me because I used the washing machine. If you want to divorce me over that it's your problem." See how crafty he is?

@AmaryllisNightAndDay I've been shouting a lot this year. He has told me that my shouting has caused him to feel unattracted to me. It has not had the desired effect. He can't even have sex with me apparently because I'm "so angry."

He has told me that my shouting has caused him to feel unattracted to me.

Aww. How attracted do you feel to him?

He can't even have sex with me apparently because I'm "so angry."

Oh dear. How unappealing. Not much emotional insight, has he?

So in your place I would probably agree with him - yes it's my problem, and yes I want to divorce him. You can't argue with stupid.

GingerIsBest · 19/04/2024 15:41

60andsomething · 19/04/2024 15:18

I think he has as much right to decide how and when things are done as you do

No, neither of them have the right to insist on things being done at a time and place that hugely inconveniences each other. So he can do washing late at night, but not if SHE is the one who then has to stay up late to hang it up. My DH also tends to do washing late at nigiht. I have learnt to sit happily watching tv whiel he's hanging it up. I am NOT hanging up washing after dinner. I will do the washing tomorrow as I certianly don't expect him to hang up late at night either, but I'm not going to od it.

skipit81 · 19/04/2024 15:48

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newyearsresolurion · 19/04/2024 16:00

DIY at 10pm?? Plan to live in 2 separate houses

MrsDoubtfire24 · 19/04/2024 18:03

Nobody is this stupid and incompetent. I think he is doing it on purpose to inconvenience you and to be controlling.

Valeriekat · 20/04/2024 11:47

TinySmol · 19/04/2024 10:26

Has he been tested for ADHD?

Did you not bother reading the post?

Nanny0gg · 20/04/2024 18:45

Stuffinmuffin · 19/04/2024 14:54

If I tell him I'm ready to divorce him he'll say "how ridiculous will that sound- she divorced me because I used the washing machine. If you want to divorce me over that it's your problem." See how crafty he is?

@AmaryllisNightAndDay I've been shouting a lot this year. He has told me that my shouting has caused him to feel unattracted to me. It has not had the desired effect. He can't even have sex with me apparently because I'm "so angry."

What does it matter why you'd divorce him?

Presumably you don't like him much now? That's reason enough

Watchkeys · 20/04/2024 18:52

He's right it's your problem! Yours to take responsibility for fixing. It's not crafty for him to say that, it's pretty stupid. People don't divorce people unless they have a problem with them!

Coldupnorth87 · 20/04/2024 19:16

I do have adhd, properly dx, and if my DH said not to do stuff, I'd oblige. I am not an arsehole.

Nd can be an explanation but it shouldn't be an excuse.

Definitely stop fixing things. Step back, move out, whatever it takes.

Abouttimeforanamechange · 20/04/2024 19:38

So he can do washing late at night, but not if SHE is the one who then has to stay up late to hang it up.

Why does anyone have to stay up late to hang it up? The next morning will be fine.

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