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Is my husband a narcissist and should I leave him?

37 replies

PoisedPearlBee · 16/04/2024 21:24

Do I need to leave?

Please be kind with your responses. I have been through a lot in the last few years including a very close bereavement and it has been all I could do to focus on one thing at a time.

Recently I have reached an epiphany where I realised that my husband is abusive and I believe, a narcissist.

We have been married almost 5 years and have two kids together. He has been increasingly abusive - including frequent physical abuse that will leave visible bruises on my arms. During arguments he shouts at me aggressively and puts me down calling me fat, telling me to shut my fat mouth, saying he could have done better than me, I’m not doing ‘my job’ as a wife and mother, I’m a useless effing c etc etc.

I also believe there is financial abuse. He took the lead with finances and admin from the beginning and whilst I don’t like dealing with that stuff I’d always done it myself when I was single and expected to be included in discussions and privy to information that concerned us both. However, he has taken control of everything to the point that I don’t know what bank accounts he has, how much money is in them - I have no access. I don’t know what our household outgoings are. Yet everything is in my name including the mortgage and car. There is also a credit card that has been maxed out (also in my name). He told me I should use it for all household related spendings during my first maternity leave and he would pay the balance each month in full. Turned out he was paying the minimum and now we are in extreme credit card debt and I can’t even access the account to know what’s going on.

After snooping in his email account that was left signed in (I felt there was something he wasn’t being honest about) I discovered that the week of our wedding a court date had to be rescheduled for the re possession of his flat due to not making payments. I didn’t have a clue about any of this. He avoid re possession but I could have married the guy and come back from honeymoon with nowhere to live!

I have no money and I’m in debt as a result of him not being willing to discuss finances and having to pay for things out of my overdraft and credit cards. He knows this would be a barrier to me leaving. How can I leave when I don’t have a penny to my name and nowhere to go? I have no family support which suits him very well.

I would consider taking the kids and moving country where I could avail of a good expat package that would include accommodation etc and hopefully sell the house to pay off our debts. I’m worried he has a lot more personal debt than he is letting on.

Anyway, would moving away break my eldest (my youngest is just a baby) It would be a massive change and he loves his Dad so much. Furthermore, I think my husband would be extreme shock as I’ve always threatened to leave but I don’t think he believes I ever would. I also worry for his mental health - that the shame of having his wife leave him would be more than he could cope with.

There is so much swirling through my head. Some days I think we can make it work but increasingly I know I have to leave. I just don’t know how. And I’m scared to face the grief and the shame. I like being married. As badly as he has abused me I still love him. Bizarre.

OP posts:
category12 · 11/05/2024 12:19

As you're married, it's possible the debt will be considered joint debt in any financial settlements in a divorce, especially if it can be proven he benefited from it.

You may be entitled to legal aid in your divorce as there is domestic abuse. Speak to Women's Aid or local domestic abuse services, the Rights of Women, and talk to your solicitor about the domestic abuse side of it if you haven't already.

category12 · 11/05/2024 12:27

Oh and get your solicitor's advice about how best to deal the summons etc. Has your dh been acting fraudulently by faking your signature or something? There could potentially be leverage against him, or a legal case to be made.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 11/05/2024 20:26

Congratulations for making a plan to leave op you're very brave and a great mum. Check out what benefits you might be entitled to and contact your LA's local domestic abuse support service for advice on housing etc xxx

Yougetmoreofwhatyoufocuson · 11/05/2024 20:33

I think you can go to your bank and ask for advice because you have been financially abused. The banks have a special team to deal with just this. There is a specific name for it , I’m just not sure what it is, but the banks can help you.

PoisedPearlBee · 11/05/2024 21:07

I’m really struggling as knowing I need to divorce him is an entirely different thing to actually doing it. Even though it is HIS abusive behaviour that has caused this I still feel to blame for being about to open a can of worms that i won’t be able to close again. I feel like I’m about to tear right through my kids wellbeing - my family are going to be in deep shock as the abuse has been so well hidden - my husband himself also going to cause me massive problems - I can see him either acting victim and totally ‘surprised’ or going into full attack mode and being as difficult as possible. I’m honestly petrified of what my immediate future with my kids is going to look like. I know we can’t continue as we are - I’m certain he won’t change as he hasn’t done so for the past number of years I’ve been with him therefore I feel I’ve been backed into a corner. I’m scared of what’s next but I can’t stay where I am. Sometimes my mind plays tricks on me and I start gaslighting myself - telling myself it’s not as bad as I think….how can I throw away my marriage…I’m over exaggerating. Of I question….do I really have to divorce now….i have a 3 month old and I’m going to become a single mother to two kids with no job, debts to pay and unsure if I will be able to keep my house or afford anywhere to live at all. Where will my husband go? He isn’t from this country. How will my 4 year old cope if he takes off and he can’t see him regularly. At the same time, I literally cannot wait to live at peace. Even today I asked for my driving licence that needs sending off for renewal and he went off on one about how I’m not capable of filling in the form myself and I’m a piece of shit and he’s sick of it all. Because I asked him for my driving licence back so I could send it myself?
I know I need out but - my head is in a pickle 24/7. I’m overthinking everything and I’m so worried about messing everything up for my kids.

OP posts:
Iaskedyouthrice · 11/05/2024 21:13

You need out FOR your kids. They live in darkness. Their home should be their sanctuary where there is love and light. That's not possible in a home with a man like this in it. You need to contact Womens Aid. This could be the start of an amazing new chapter for you and your kids but you need to keep going. Good luck.

Sweden99 · 11/05/2024 21:17

DrunkenElephant · 16/04/2024 21:49

Go to the police, please.

It is financial, emotional and physical abuse. If that feels to scary right now, please call Women's Aid. They will help you x

Yes

Louholla6 · 29/10/2024 12:34

Hi,

Louholla6 · 29/10/2024 12:47

It is economical abuse. You need to get a caseworker from a charity and gather as much evidence as you can BEFORE taking any action against him. Make sure you have somewhere to go and money before you do. If he is a narcissist once he knows you know things will get much much worse for you and he will see this as an attack. They cannot cope with the shame that will follow and will blame you.

I'm sorry to say but I’ve been divorced since 2017 and in and out of court with my ex narc 5 times, I am about to be made homeless.

There is no money in family court system and they won’t accept narcissism which is a major issue of much wasted court time. The family court in London is inherently misogynistic in my view and if you don’t have good counsel they will go with the wealthy narc ex every time!

Narcissism is a toxic personality disorder plaguing our world currently on every level it really needs to be seriously addressed.

Anywherebuthere · 29/10/2024 12:54

I also worry for his mental health - that the shame of having his wife leave him would be more than he could cope with.

No no no. Do not worry for him. He will be just fine.

Find a way to get out of this.

PoisedPearlBee · 02/12/2024 20:24

An update:

6 months ago I visited a solicitor to begin divorce proceedings.

I gave my husband one last chance and told him what I’d done. Long story short, he made a lot of promises about how things were going to change. He felt awful about how he had treated me. Full transparency from now on. etc etc.

Things improved for a couple of weeks. Now I’m 6 months on and very quickly the relationship has deteriorated again. I knew deep down he wouldn’t make good on his promises but I guess I needed to be sure.

I feel lost. Now I have shown him my hand. So he is trying to control me even more. He essentially won’t allow me to work as he has taken on a second job so I have to take primary care of the children and he won’t pay for childcare. I have no money to pay for anything myself.

I don’t have anywhere to go with my 2 kids. I was hoping I could get a job & save up bit by bit to become financially stable and show I would be able to provide for myself and my children. I am getting daily calls and messages from debt collectors and I don’t know where to go or what to do.

I still try to tell myself that I should give the marriage a chance and it’s not bad enough to warrant a divorce…I don’t want to be a single mother to two small children. I’m exhausted as it is….how would I cope on my own with no help.

I’ve been doing a lot of self development work and increasingly I am unable to ignore my inner voice saying no. Enough. No more. I need a way out. I want freedom.

OP posts:
Imbusytodaysorry · 02/12/2024 22:10

You will be less exhausted without him hanging over you.

Can you move into a desperate room and claim Universal credit .( this can allow you to save some money) make a call to women’s aid for support on housing and emotional support.

Obviously don’t tell him any of your plans.
When you move out the room just say you have had enough.

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