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Bizarre 'cheating' ‐ was it?!?

36 replies

MyAmberBiscuit · 11/04/2024 16:38

This is an odd one and I can't find any advice on this situation. It's driving me mad working out what to do.

I was in a 2 year on off relationship until recently. If I deducted the time we were 'off' it would probably be more like a year, 18m.
I used to finish with him because he was unable to commit in the way I wanted. I didn't want marriage or kids or even living together, I just wanted him to be more present and share more aspects of life together. We did love each other and had the most fun, the best conversation and sex. It would have been perfect but I'd get to the end of my tether when it was like pulling teeth trying to get him to level up.

Now, here's the stinger. I found out every time we would break up he would 'try' again with his ex wife. And this is why I think he wouldn't commit. She was dangling a carrot when he was dating me that they could get the family back together. He took the bait and then they ended up in a toxic situation where they were both keeping each other on the hook. They never got back together.

When we were 'off', I went on a few dates with several people and had a short relationship myself, thinking it was fully over each time. But we always got back together with each other. Until I found out the ex wife stuff through finding a message.

I finished with him immediately as it made me feel like a back up plan and not the one he really wanted. I also saw it as cheating, because of the residual connection they had, feelings. I spoke to her too and she told me everything about what had gone on.

Although I think some of it was embellished or just made up. I was the other woman after all, in a way. But I know some of it was true.

Now, his ex wife is with someone else. My ex is very remorseful and apologetic and has cut ties with her over anything that's not child related. He says the finding out has made him see how toxic the situation was and his crap behaviour. He takes responsibility.
I've told him if he can work on him self and prove whatever it was between him and her is now done with, we can see how things feel in a year.

But I'm torn. It's this just the worst situation because she'll always be in his life or now the is all blown up and the 'lightbulb' moment has occurred could he now give me the relationship I wanted with him?

He's not a drunk cheat etc, there's not a history of him doing this. It was specific to his situation with her their divorce. I got dragged in.

I'm just wondering if this is doomed or an opportunity for reset? My instinct is to mend, slowly, very slowly, but also I just feel like an idiot for even thinking that.

Can you forgive? Everything online says no but its more related to cheating during an LTR and not an on/off situation where neither of us were fully committed (I went on 10 dates over the course of our relationship as an example, but whilst we were 'off'...mostly....and maybe once or twice when he pissed me off, never sex, just dates)

OP posts:
MyAmberBiscuit · 11/04/2024 21:29

Yep it's messed up that's for sure! I'm open to all opinions.

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category12 · 11/04/2024 21:34

Why keep on doing it to yourself? 2 years of bullshit and on & off, trying to get him to pick you.

Now he's not even picking you, it's just the other woman has had enough (for now).

Just close the door on it and find someone who you don't have massive drama with, who chooses you.

Geebray · 11/04/2024 21:37

MyAmberBiscuit · 11/04/2024 21:29

Yep it's messed up that's for sure! I'm open to all opinions.

There's only one opinion: Move on. With some self respect.

Bigwelshlamb · 11/04/2024 21:38

What would you advise your best friend to do? You would likely tell her to move on and get out of this off and on bullshit, you're not 14.

It's done, it's gone, it was likely never really there anyway and you deserve to enter into something where you are the priority, the first and only choice. That's the minimum standard you'd wish for your friend and that's the minimum you should accept.

You clearly don't want to hear it but for the love of God just let this messy chapter go, be brave and move on.

Purpleavocado · 11/04/2024 21:59

Imagine you let this drag another 5 years. Do you honestly think he will change? Or will you have wasted 5 more years of your life? People tell you the truth by their actions, not their words. He's telling you want he thinks you want to hear. You're buying into the drama. Be your own best friend and look out for yourself.

MsGrumpytrousers · 11/04/2024 22:35

Does he have children with her, OP? If so, I think the desire to mend the family is much more understandable.

TheBottomsOfMyTrousersAreRolled · 11/04/2024 22:42

MyAmberBiscuit · 11/04/2024 21:14

I did but he wasn't offering what I wanted so I would bin him off. About 4 times. Maybe he just didn't think I was seriousand would bin him off at any given moment, which is kind is true, so the lure is getting the family back together was appealing, rather than his flighty gf. Urgh. Mess.

Thats pretty controlling from you as well isnt it. Finishing him but with jo actual intention of ending the relationship, to try to change his behaviour.

it is a toxic mess. Move on.

MyAmberBiscuit · 12/04/2024 01:37

MsGrumpytrousers · 11/04/2024 22:35

Does he have children with her, OP? If so, I think the desire to mend the family is much more understandable.

Yes. A boy that was his and girls who were babies when they met, so step daughters.

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CulturalNomad · 12/04/2024 01:53

His ex would 100٪ tell me if he tried with her again, so I would know

So basically you're relying on your cheating partner's ex-wife (who he also cheated on) to let you know if he starts sniffing around her again?

I see no chance for lasting happiness with this man. There are other men out there, and even if there weren't there are worse things than being alone.

Bobbotgegrinch · 12/04/2024 07:51

If I'm understanding the thread properly then he hasn't cheated at at all. He's been a single man who's slept with an ex while not in a relationship with you.

That said, I still wouldn't get back together with him. You don't trust him to be committed to you, and he's always going to have to be in contact with this ex, so you're always going to be uncomfortable

Let him go and find a relationship with someone who shows a level of commitment you're happy with.

CrunchingNumbers · 12/04/2024 08:52

From your updates, you appear to be the cheat, not him. I see you mentioned that your mum and dad were still together when your stepdad got with her, yet you don't call her a cheat, though she was.
You sound very controlling. This poor man just sounds like he wants his family back together, whilst you blow hot and cold on him for not doing what you want, when you want it. I hope for his sake, he doesn't come back for more, you don't sound like stepmother material.

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