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Help me understand her problem/mindset? I’m hurt

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Mrsoliverscat · 06/04/2024 09:40

Hello 👋 lovely MN,

I’ve come on here for a better perspective . I’m hurt …has anyone encountered this type of person?

Firstly for context I’m passive and it takes a lot to stand my ground. Met friend 4 years ago, thought she was great but she sent me weird messages (red flag?) which I stupidly ignored. Made me feel uncomfortable out of the blue saying she adored me, couldn’t be without me, I was the best person she’s ever met. What I realise now (because I’m stupid) is this friend is extreme you either are amazing or shit on her shoe.

At work she was extremely argumentative with our boss and so she left for a new job (she’s now on her 4th job in 4 years) and seems to have issues with authority and she openly says she is better than her colleagues. She’s been asked to be less abrasive at work. She is still obsessed with hating my boss after 4 years and working for her for a few months.

I saw a pattern of her falling out with friends, friendship groups, family and there seemed always be drama but I always backed her because I’d never been on the receiving end. I also never wanted to feel negatively towards my friend (but there were niggling doubts) but there always seemed to be extreme drama in her relationships.

But it is my fault 🤦‍♀️ because I recently was on the receiving end of her wrath. It started slowly. She sent me hurtful private messages but acted completely fine in our group chat. I felt more and more isolated, when we would meet up she would gush over our friends but be rude, dismissive to me and correct me and chip away at me.
This all came to a head when she sent a vile message to me and then ignored me for weeks.

i called her out in a very balanced kind message (my friend helped me write it) saying I was hurt, had I upset her.
her response was cold and uninterested. She said she couldn’t handle my news of getting married and didn’t know how to behave 😆 which I feel was an excuse, it would have been something else, she was looking for an issues.
i asked if she respected me or was meant to be hurtful and she just said I don’t know how to handle you’re getting married!
She proceeded to create a new WhatsApp group just for her and my friends telling them I had misunderstood and it was my fault for the rift 🙄and that she LOVED those girls so much which seemed very disingenuous and a tactic to get them on side.
My friends are amazing and shot her down Saying they were not having a separate WhatsApp group to talk about me. They also saw her messages to me and were furious and now want to avoid her.

She holds grudges and never lets things go. She is just so angry about everything.

she is very rigid in her beliefs and if you don’t meet her standards she is very open at telling you off.

very judgemental and is the authority on everything.

Chooses to be very gushing or very cold

has no problem in telling you you’re wrong, and how you need to behave.

Very loud, domineering and controlling of people and the group.

Enjoys voicing her opinion no matter how hurtful it is, almost likes provoking a fight and seeing you are hurt.

nothing is in the middle …only ever black or white.

I know it’s my fault for being friends with her and letting stuff slide.
MN if you go this far thank you! So
has anyone experienced this kind of person before? How did it end up? Did they vanish or come back with vengeance?

thank you x

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Shiningout · 06/04/2024 09:52

Have you posted this before? I swear I've read it word for word

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 06/04/2024 09:55

This all sounds too much like hard work. Assuming you're all adults, just ignore her and let her disappear out of your life.

Moonlitwalk · 06/04/2024 09:55

Loud, domineering, controlling and rude? why does this even need to be a dilemma? I wouldnt choose to have someone in my life like this.

She sounds bloody awful. It will end up exactly as you choose it to end up.

She wont change so you either keep her in your life and put up with her awful behaviour or you realise life is too short for this nonsense and dump and find better friends.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 06/04/2024 09:58

Moonlitwalk · 06/04/2024 09:55

Loud, domineering, controlling and rude? why does this even need to be a dilemma? I wouldnt choose to have someone in my life like this.

She sounds bloody awful. It will end up exactly as you choose it to end up.

She wont change so you either keep her in your life and put up with her awful behaviour or you realise life is too short for this nonsense and dump and find better friends.

☝Nails it. She brings nothing to your life but angst and hurt feelings and she sounds awful. Why give her the attention and the worry?

CleaningSticks · 06/04/2024 10:02

Undoubtably come across people like this before - always give them a very wide berth though so never got to know the full extent of it. I was guilty of staying in friendships with more covert types too long though.

You have stayed in this 'friendship' far too long. All you can do is remove yourself and learn from it.

Mrsoliverscat · 06/04/2024 10:04

@Shiningout nope, not me 😂

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Gallowayan · 06/04/2024 10:05

Think you may have posted this before? Your friend has a personality disorder and this explains her problems/mindset.

Essentially this means she does not have "problems" she is the problem because of the nature of her personality.

Plenty of good information about this if you go to credible sources for the information.

Gwenhwyfar · 06/04/2024 10:06

She's mentally ill. (I'll get told off for making an armchair diagnosis, but this is my opinion). Maybe one of those illnesses with highs and lows, which explains why she can sometimes be very nice and also to those asking why you're still friends with her, people like this often have a 'good' side too.

Mrsoliverscat · 06/04/2024 10:07

CleaningSticks · 06/04/2024 10:02

Undoubtably come across people like this before - always give them a very wide berth though so never got to know the full extent of it. I was guilty of staying in friendships with more covert types too long though.

You have stayed in this 'friendship' far too long. All you can do is remove yourself and learn from it.

This is it! You want to see the best in people and I suppose I’m gutted that I wasn’t more in tune with my true feelings and listened to my intuition.

I think she could have a personality disorder . Maybe that’s me trying to justify her behaviour.

Because she wouldn’t address her shitty behaviour and apologise she’s lost me as a friend (I use friend loosely) but also the entire friendship group 😮

I can’t imagine why anyone would want to do that especially after telling the other girls how much she loves them.

i suppose I just needed to rant!

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Mrsoliverscat · 06/04/2024 10:09

@Gallowayan I promise I haven’t posted this before!
this literally happened yesterday with the whole setting up of a new WhatsApp group.
clearly I’m not the only person to have experienced this type of person

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StoneColdAlibi · 06/04/2024 10:09

She sounds like she may have EUPD or similar. This 'splitting' behaviour is a very good indication.
However the reason doesn't really matter, she does not sound like someone worth maintaining a friendship with. You're not obligated to keep her in your life if she's not enhancing it in any way. Move on.

Mrsoliverscat · 06/04/2024 10:09

Gallowayan · 06/04/2024 10:05

Think you may have posted this before? Your friend has a personality disorder and this explains her problems/mindset.

Essentially this means she does not have "problems" she is the problem because of the nature of her personality.

Plenty of good information about this if you go to credible sources for the information.

Thank you! This is confirming what I thought. Thank you for your input

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Maddy70 · 06/04/2024 10:12

Just block her and move on

Mrsoliverscat · 06/04/2024 10:12

@StoneColdAlibi ill looking this up. What doesn’t match up is how extreme she is simply because I announced my engagement (literally has nothing to do with her). I think she’s furious because I’ve said previously as In a few years back I’m not particularly fussed about getting married.

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Mrsoliverscat · 06/04/2024 10:13

Maddy70 · 06/04/2024 10:12

Just block her and move on

Oh I will!
I suppose I need to work through my feelings, it’s a process, I was one of her closest friends and the whole thing has been painful and hurtful. I have felt singled out by her.
im not interested in having a friendship with her
I think she’s toxic and so do my friends BUT it’s still hurtful

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Daffodilsarentfluffy · 06/04/2024 10:14

Lots of genuine mh sufferes in life.
She's just a fucking bitch imo.

supercali77 · 06/04/2024 10:14

Yeah I've been in this position. Friend, falls out with her other friends, chaotic reactions, but because I wasnt on the receiving end just thought it was unfortunate circumstances. Until it turned on me and oh boy. I still have the emails where im all sorts of vile but it was also bizarrely contradictory accusations, I was both abusive but also too stupid to realise I was being abused. Predatory but also needed help. It made no sense.

I avoid chaotic people now, nobody needs that kind of whiplash

Mrsoliverscat · 06/04/2024 10:16

Daffodilsarentfluffy · 06/04/2024 10:14

Lots of genuine mh sufferes in life.
She's just a fucking bitch imo.

@Daffodilsarentfluffy omg this is so accurate 🤣 when you put it like that….

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Dacadactyl · 06/04/2024 10:16

She sounds like a 13 year old who has a bad home life.

Cut her off. I wouldn't be giving someone like this any power over me.

You are feeding it by trying to analyse and stay in touch etc.

Mrsoliverscat · 06/04/2024 10:18

@supercali77 yes!!!! A couple of messages she sent were completely contradictory! My friends looked at them and pointed it out.
also she sent her responses super quickly with terrible spelling mistakes and nonsensical sentences which is not her MO so maybe when she’s so angry she can’t control herself and it comes out in a weird way

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Mrsoliverscat · 06/04/2024 10:20

Dacadactyl · 06/04/2024 10:16

She sounds like a 13 year old who has a bad home life.

Cut her off. I wouldn't be giving someone like this any power over me.

You are feeding it by trying to analyse and stay in touch etc.

Just to clarify i am not staying touch at all. I said it’s done and I’m no longer interested.
i won’t ever contact her again, it’s done.
But obviously her behaviour has affected me and I think I’m allowed a bit of time to come to terms with it and process it

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MiltonNorthern · 06/04/2024 10:23

I had a friend like this. Amazing friend, made you feel so special and loved when you were in her orbit. I also didn't see the pattern for years until it happened to me. She has vaguely retained one mutual friend who asked her one time what happened between us and she couldn't even remember - she said it was something to do with a life event of hers that happened a couple of years after we stopped talking. Even though I knew it was for the best it hurt like a break up for a long time. People like this are dysfunctional, and when it's a pattern for them but something that never happened to you before you know 100% it's them, not you. I was the 7th 'best friend' this woman had cut out of her life completely. And yet I overlooked the pattern until it was me 🤷🏼‍♀️

Moonlitwalk · 06/04/2024 10:24

But obviously her behaviour has affected me and I think I’m allowed a bit of time to come to terms with it and process it

Fine to process your own feelings about it. But this is coming across as more than that. It seems like you want answers as to all her motivations/behaviours and you wont ever get that. She views life through a completely different lens to you so you'll never understand it. If she does have EUPD which it sounds like, then you wont ever be able to relate to her feelings- eg splitting people into evil and angelic categories for example because the entire point is, its not rational.

Process your own feelings but dont dwell too much on the why's of her behaviour- you wont get anywhere with that route.

Mrsoliverscat · 06/04/2024 10:30

@Moonlitwalk sorry I’m not under the spotlight here 🙄 I came on here to vent and I’m very lucky I’ve had some responses and feel a little better that others have had a similar experience.

i don’t care how I come across , I think it’s perfectly ok to come across as upset and of course I would like answers. I know that’s not going to happen

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Mrsoliverscat · 06/04/2024 10:31

Thank you to everyone who gave their
own experiences. I’m glad I’m not the only one who got sucked in!

yea it’s hurtful, yes it will take a bit of time to get over but I just wanted a space to rant and process my feelings.

thank you

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