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LDR. In suspense. Reassurance not tough love please!

47 replies

Tezstar · 30/03/2024 08:01

Sorry this is long.

I am in a tricky situation. One year in to a relationship with a man who lives abroad but works in my country every other week. He stays at mine. I have never visited him, as he has 3 DC under 10 and a tricky ex (NB - this is me reading between the lines, he is not slagging her off or calling her mad, he's not like that. And they are certainly 100% separated - I know that. ). And I know it's normal to wait at least a year. I'd love to meet these kids. They sound great. He has a lot on his plate - stressful full-on job, sick mother, and he is a very very conscientious and loving father. We fell in love very quickly. I've always had total confidence in that, and though the future looked tricky, it didn't seem impossible that at some stage I would meet his kids and we would start to move our lives together. Always had great communication.

However - at the beginning of this year he had to work away, and his mother had an operation, and work became very very stressful for him. We ended up not seeing each other for weeks, phone calls got shorter and then bam, one day he just texted saying it was over because his children needed him. That was it. I am 45, he's 42. I'm divorced with no kids. The day after this text he called to say he had overreacted because he was so overwhelmed and spread so thin he felt like something had to give. OK - I thought, - he said he loved me and saw a future together, then said he still needed to think. OK, so I backed off and waited for him when I knew he was in the country. We met as usual, he stayed at mine, - we didn't really have a serious talk because I felt like least said soonest mended and wanted to keep things low stress.

He was calling and messaging for a few days after that as usual, then went quiet again. I now have a gut feeling that another dumping text is coming and I can't understand how we have gone from great communication and total straightforward love to this tense situation where I feel like one wrong move is going to make him Buckaroo and finish it again.

He has so much on his plate, but I've always been flexible and low maintenance. He is due here next week. I'd like to talk to him before that but I genuinely don't know if we're together, if it's over and he's ghosting...that seems so unlike the man I know. He's very serious. Work is his vice, I think. And compartmentalising. I think his lives in the two cities are very seperate to him. He said he loved me and sent messages afterwards saying I was beautiful, he loved my voice (from a voice message about a project we did together) that he missed me, that I was sweet to him... etc. If I read them back, I feel OK. He's saying lovely things as he always has. If I think that we haven't spoken in five days, I don't so much. Actually I feel dreadful.

So what am I asking? Has anyone been through this - dealing with someone so stressed they think something has to go and it's you? I think the worst thing I could do is call or message - he has his kids at the weekend. I know he has a lot going on, but I can't seem to not feel desolate. The only course seems to be wait it out and let him have space. It's hard though...

OP posts:
GoldOtter · 30/03/2024 09:26

Sounds like his marriage isn't over!

ButtockUp · 30/03/2024 13:12

I agree @GoldOtter

This really isn't a relationship OP, sorry.

RandomForest · 30/03/2024 14:58

You are wasting your time with this one.

Pinkbonbon · 30/03/2024 15:00

Tbh...those texts feel like he's blowing smoke up your backside. I hate to say it but it feels like a more local woman has popped up so he's phasing you out.

Have you ever had a chat about who is going to move where? And how their life would look in the new place? Or other practicalities?

Presumably you'd be moving there ad ge had 3 kids there. How do you feel about that? Could you find work? Would his family accept you? Could you integrate into the culture? Is he willing to respect you according to western values within a marriage? If you want kids, could you have them over there and raise them away fro your family?

Really he might even just be thinking about all this now himself and realising its not viable.

QuillBill · 30/03/2024 15:02

Presumably you'd be moving there ad ge had 3 kids there. How do you feel about that? Could you find work? Would his family accept you? Could you integrate into the culture? Is he willing to respect you according to western values within a marriage? If you want kids, could you have them over there and raise them away fro your family?

And can you get a visa?

SamW98 · 30/03/2024 15:55

Sorry OP this isnt a relationship. Sounds like you’re his convenient FWB whenever he’s over here for work.

AntonineWall · 30/03/2024 17:02

Sounds like he's screwing you, his wife and his three kids. Sorry, you asked for reassurance but I don't think there is anything to be reassured about from what you have written.

Natty13 · 30/03/2024 19:56

Pinkbonbon · 30/03/2024 15:00

Tbh...those texts feel like he's blowing smoke up your backside. I hate to say it but it feels like a more local woman has popped up so he's phasing you out.

Have you ever had a chat about who is going to move where? And how their life would look in the new place? Or other practicalities?

Presumably you'd be moving there ad ge had 3 kids there. How do you feel about that? Could you find work? Would his family accept you? Could you integrate into the culture? Is he willing to respect you according to western values within a marriage? If you want kids, could you have them over there and raise them away fro your family?

Really he might even just be thinking about all this now himself and realising its not viable.

There isn't a man in the planet who wouldn't have his gf over to his on a few days where he doesn't have his DC who will then commit enough to move her there permanently to be with him.

I'm sorry it isn't what you want to hear.

Potkettlerainbow · 30/03/2024 20:14

Sounds like he lovebombed you and now uses you at his convenience. He has three kids and you live in different countries. I hate to state the obvious but what you have going on has no future.

I may be wrong but I would be questioning the conflict with his ex wife. Are you sure you was not the other women and he was cheating and sneaking around on her and she found him out? Hence all the stress. If he is away so much he can’t be doing a whole heap of parenting. You are overlooking so many red flags 🚩.

Potkettlerainbow · 30/03/2024 20:16

Also if you live in another country why do you need to meet his children? Are you planning to move. It would be incredibly confusing and unnecessary for them.

Jk987 · 30/03/2024 21:00

His work should be paying for a hotel while he's here and you join him there if you want. Why is he living with you? Do you do his laundry and cooking etc? Please say no....

WalkingaroundJardine · 30/03/2024 21:37

My thought was also that he is still married. Whether he is happy or not, he clearly has prioritized those relationships in the home country.

SamW98 · 30/03/2024 21:43

Jk987 · 30/03/2024 21:00

His work should be paying for a hotel while he's here and you join him there if you want. Why is he living with you? Do you do his laundry and cooking etc? Please say no....

He’s probably claiming a hotel allowance and pocketing the money

DatingDinosaur · 30/03/2024 22:52

@Tezstar you said this - "The answer is that I need to have a proper talk with him when I next see him. Get some clarity. "

So this is what you should do. Wait it out and speak to him face to face. It sounds like the only reason you're stressing about this is because you don't think you'll like the outcome. As hard as it might be, it's better to discuss your concerns rather than hoping that, if you ignore it, everything will be alright; it's the uncertainty that is eating away at you.

In the meantime, he's probably thinking you're absolutely fine with his behaviour.

RandomForest · 31/03/2024 00:08

He's a complete user.

Stop idolising him.

SamW98 · 31/03/2024 00:25

Ask yourself why you’re bending over backwards and making continual excuses fur a man who is basically using you as a convenient free hotel with added FWB.

He dumped you by text but apologised when he heeded somewhere to stay and you didn’t say a word because you don’t want to stress him out.

Honestly there are more red flags than a communist party rally.

You say you reassurance but no one can give you that because from your OP it seems you’ve been absolutely taken in by a life bombing and now the discard phase is kicking in.

You need to be realistic - this isn’t going anywhere and he is messing with your head and will keep doing so while you continue to put him on a pedestal

Southern68 · 31/03/2024 03:06

Have "the talk" with him, and be prepared to ask uncomfortable questions, total honesty from both sides. My gut feeling is that you're an escape from all he has going on, I hope I'm wrong and you can sort it, but ask yourself this, if a friend was in the same position what would your gut feeling and advice be.
If you decide to try and make a go of it, you need to be equal and have no power imbalance. Wishing you luck.

MissHarrietBede · 31/03/2024 09:56

Jk987 · 30/03/2024 21:00

His work should be paying for a hotel while he's here and you join him there if you want. Why is he living with you? Do you do his laundry and cooking etc? Please say no....

I doubt the answer will be no 🙄we all see what is going on here. Free bed and board for him with sex thrown in.

Sceptical123 · 31/03/2024 10:10

QuillBill · 30/03/2024 08:47

Where is he officially supposed to staying where he is working in your country for a week?

Does he have a home there and if so does he ever stay in it?

He's created a great set up for very little effort. He's put in the time at the beginning and how he has a place to stay for a week. When my dh works away he gets a sizeable 'living away from home' allowance as well as accommodation.

OMG this is it!

Sceptical123 · 31/03/2024 10:14

-also could someone please explain ‘Not only do I love you I also really like you.' to me please.

Surely you like someone to fall in love with them? Or is this more ‘not only do I love having sex with you (taking a break from the wife and kids and living rent free while I pocket work living expenses) but I also don’t mind talking to you.’

Poppalina37 · 31/03/2024 21:41

Oh my days.... I could have written this....

I have his baby..... no commitment...... just to busy.... choatic....

I've walked away..... I feel like absolute dog 💩

We've sorted contact he wants us to be friends... it's more about what he's not saying and how much I've had to change to accommodate his behaviour and life.

I just can't do it anymore.... it only really came to a head a few days ago... I'm heartbroken, angry, disappointed.

But I'm 42.... I can't do this anymore.

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