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Feeling very on edge around H now...

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Yoyosa · 27/03/2024 01:57

First time poster and not really sure why I'm posting, other than I have no one else to talk to about this. Before I share the reason for my post please note that I am genuinely on edge, have no idea how to handle the situation I find myself in, and have no intention of trying to defend myself for how I feel so please don't respond if all you're going to do is tell me I'm being unreasonable etc. I don't intend any disrespect to anyone but have seen too many threads where people pile on with unhelpful comments and I seriously can do without those.

So. Been married just over 25 years, not terribly happy for most of them because soon after the wedding it became apparent that H was very selfish. We did not live together before we married or perhaps I would have realised that sooner. But anyway, he has tended to put his own wants and needs before mine (generally ignoring them) and basically treating me like a housekeeper rather than a wife. He was not like this when we were 'courting'. The difference in how he was before we married to how he was following the wedding still shocks me and a close friend suggested that he might have Aspergers. I don't know and hadn't heard the term before so had to look it up, but I can see why she suggested it and acknowledge that it is a real possibility. I asked him once if he thought he might have the condition and he didn't deny but absolutely refused to even consider getting any kind of assessment done. I believe the purpose of such an assessment is to identify what level of help/support a person with Aspergers might need. Again, I don't know.

Whether he does have this Aspergers or not, our marriage deteriorated as the years passed and we have not shared a room now for many years - initially because he has 'night terrors' and wakes up yelling and thrashing about and woke me so abruptly that I would lie there for ages waiting for my heart rate to return to normal before I was able to relax enough to sleep, if at all. He would always just go right back to sleep as if nothing had happened. So eventually I moved into the spare room, and have remained there ever since as his behaviour has worsened over the years resulting in my losing any kind of romantic feelings for him. I've been honest about that but he's always refused to accept or believe it and the stress has been awful to live with and has made me ill and even question my sanity more than once because we would discuss something, make a decision, and then he wouldn't honour that decision and when challenged would deny ever even having the conversation.

I've coped somehow with all of this, unable to leave because I have no money of my own and was looking after unwell elderly parents - Dad died a few years ago, Mum more recently. I myself am now in mid 60's and feel like my life has just been one long struggle, and I am weary. I have very little energy.

But the point of my posting is that for the past couple of years I have caught H out in blatant lies, and he denies to my face that they are or that he has or is lying. And yet he is. Another episode occurred earlier this evening. The thing I cannot understand and have no explanation for is that the most recent involve stumbling upon him smoking which he has never done as long as I've known him. He couldn't deny that as I literally walked around the corner and he was right there smoking. He was waiting for me after an appointment but watching the front entrance to the building, whereas I had been directed to use a different exit so rounded the corner behind him. I don't know which of us was more shocked when I came up beside him - me from actually seeing him smoking or him from being 'caught out'. I asked how long he had been smoking and he said about a month, and I just asked him to please not smoke in the house. Back in the car I asked if there was a particular reason why he had started smoking and he said it was work-related stress so I said I was sad to think that he couldn't have told me and perhaps I might have been able to support him. Out of nowhere he blew up and said it was mostly because of how things were between us and that it was my fault he was stressed. I did stop him there and tell him I refused to be blamed for choices he made himself - that he's done this so many times over the years when he hasn't liked the outcome of something and I no longer allow him to blame me or participate in any discussion that allows for this because I will not enable him any longer. Anyway, he said he wouldn't smoke any more. But a few weeks ago I saw a lighter on the floor which had obviously fallen from his pocket as he had got up from the couch and I picked it up, put it on the arm of the couch and said simply, "I believe this is yours." He snatched it up and left the room without a word and when he returned he asked me what I 'thought' I'd seen. I told him I had seen a lighter and he brushed it aside and said it wasn't, that he didn't own one, and it was just a bit of plastic he had picked up whilst walking our dog and had forgotten to throw in the bin. I didn't argue the point, but I knew what I had seen and picked up. So earlier tonight he got up from lying on the floor playing with our dog to take her out to toilet as I returned to the living room from the kitchen, and my foot touched something on the floor right around where he had been lying. At first I thought it was a USB stick but when I bent down and picked it up, it was a Vape thing, quite full so recently bought I imagine. When he came back into the room I handed it to him asking how long he had been vaping. The look he gave me would have killed me where I stood, if such a thing were possible. It really shook me. For a moment I thought he was going to deny that it was a Vape but he didn't just said 'a couple of weeks' and then he went and threw it away.

My concern is the constant lies, and the deception, and I told him this. He didn't say much and shortly after took himself off to bed without further discussion.

That look he gave me was one of such venom and hatred. I honestly don't understand the point of lying over something so trivial, the deception of it. It leaves me feeling very unsettled and on edge around him because I just don't trust a word he says anymore, and it makes me wonder what else he might be lying about and covering up.

If i hadn't just lost my Mum and didn't have to go through all of her stuff, which I am doing at present as there's only me and its all taking such a toll, I would leave. Except I still have no money of my own and I just don't have the mental or emotional energy to deal with trying to start afresh at my age in poor health.

Thank you if you have managed to read all of this. I'm sorry its so long. Its the first time I've openly 'spoken' about any of this or, I suppose, acknowledged the extent of it to myself and it feels very overwhelming to me. If anyone else is in similar situation, may I ask how you cope day to day and what do you do to maintain your personal joy as I feel as if the life has been sucked out of me and I have nothing left.

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Yoe · 28/03/2024 02:20

I really have no advise for you , but am sending you a virtual hug

SurlyValentine · 28/03/2024 10:44

I am so, so happy for you that you're taking steps to leave this marriage.

The fact your husband dismisses your unhappiness when you have voiced your feelings just shows the contempt in which he holds you. If he loved you he would be mortified and would do everything he could to try to make amends.

I wish you all the best for your WA appointment x

Secondstart1001 · 28/03/2024 12:08

@Yoyosa after reading all your replies to everyone on here it made me want to cry. You sound like such a lovely and thoughtful lady and I really hope everyone advising you on here helps you to divorce him. You deserve happiness xxx

Yoyosa · 27/04/2024 02:26

PaminaMozart: I know where all the documents are kept so will make copies of everything and keep a file for myself. Thank you.

Yoe: Thank you so much for the virtual hug. You’re very kind x

SurlyValentine: Your kind words echo my own feelings and I thank you for them, and for your understanding. The fact that my husband dismisses my unhappiness when I have voiced my feelings does show the contempt in which he holds me. If he loved me he would be mortified and would do everything he could to try to make amends. This is how I’ve felt and have told him so, but his dismissive attitude has only ever been one of contempt and that has been unbearable.

Secondstart1001: Thank you, too, for your kindness and encouragement to leave. I do deserve happiness. We all do. Its so sad when marriages fail and one party wants to leave but the other makes life even more intolerable by their refusal to engage in the process, and/or tell you that you don’t feel the way you do, its all in your head…

Just wanted to update you all. I did speak to a lovely lady at WA who provided a lot of helpful information and also went to see someone at CAB, who advised me to take advantage of the short but free appointments some solicitors offer as an initial guidance relating to whatever issue you're facing. So I rang round and eventually found a local solicitor (not the one my H and I are registered with) who offered this service, and he too was very helpful. Since then, I've stayed with my sister for a couple of weeks, under the guise of her not feeling well enough to take care of herself properly and needing some support (she does have genuine health issues my husband is aware of). This was her idea, not mine, but has been a great help to me and given me much, much-needed breathing space and thinking time.

I didn't know when I made my original post that 'The Divorce, Dissolution and Separation Act 2020' (no fault divorce) came into force last year. The lady at WA, the younger woman at CAB and the solicitor all told me that, and the solicitor gave me some leaflets and also encouraged me to really consider my options because I have more options than I originally thought I had. So I came away from each of those appointments feeling so much better, and relieved.

Because I'm dealing with other things at the moment, things that must be dealt with and are physically exhausting me, I've decided to wait until all of that's done with (likely another couple of months at the most) and then go back to that solicitor and ask him to represent me in divorce proceedings.

Thank you, everyone, for your kindness and support here. I was at my wits end when I posted and felt like I was on my knees, and so many of you helped me get back to my feet. God bless you xx

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WalkingaroundJardine · 27/04/2024 02:43

I have read all your posts. I am happy for you that you are taking steps to improve the quality of the rest of your life. Your first post was very sad. Having experienced both, the feeling of being lonely in a long marriage with a partner who despises you is far worse than being single. I knew I couldn’t spend my retirement years with someone who was fundamentally nasty and unlikeable.

Honestly, you won’t regret it.

SeatonCarew · 27/04/2024 02:55

Dear Yoyosa, it is lovely to read your positive update and that you have been able to reach out for support and advice. Your sister sounds like a very smart and supportive lady, I am so pleased you have got her on your side! You can and will be able to get this sorted out sweetheart, and I wish you every happiness in your future life. I think you are going to feel so much lighter without this heavy relationship dragging you down, good luck.

decionsdecisions62 · 27/04/2024 03:10

I was reading this thinking you were about 40 then when you said 60 I felt so sad that you have wasted your life with this loser.

My brother had Asperger's but he was the loveliest human ever.Aspergers does not make you a nasty, selfish individual. It's all personality I'm afraid.

You need to get out. There may be a charity you can go to to seek help but he isn't going to change. I'm no expert on this aspect. Have you a friend you could stay with? Until you find your feet.

You're focusing in on the smoking I guess because it's easier but you're living with a narcissist that's gaslit you the whole time.

decionsdecisions62 · 27/04/2024 03:13

Just read your update. Well done op. Don't lose your momentum though. Another day spent with that man is a day too long!

SurlyValentine · 27/04/2024 10:25

Thank you so much for your update @Yoyosa; I was actually thinking about you the other day.

I'm glad you've had that breathing space with your sister (although obviously I'm sorry to hear about her health issues). Have you spoken to her about your intention to divorce your husband, or do you feel that she would not be supportive? If you think she would back you up, please don't underestimate the value of some real-life support.

I hope the other issues that you're dealing with are resolved quickly and easily so that you can resume your plans to end your marriage and then you can start enjoying the rest of your life.

DrJoanAllenby · 27/04/2024 10:34

He hates you and you clearly have no live for him and you will only end up in more misery if that's possible.

There's even a chance that he could snap.

Split up and set each other free.

Secondstart1001 · 27/04/2024 13:44

@Yoyosa it’s really good you took some of the advice on here to start preparing an exit plan. It’s good you’ve managed to stay with your sister as it makes it easier to get stronger when you are constantly not in the firing line. Make sure you continue to plan forwards. Being alone is better than being in a miserable marriage, and I have every faith you will be much happier soon!

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