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What is wrong with my mum?

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renoleno · 23/03/2024 10:19

I have a complicated relationship with my mother, that I can't discuss with anyone in real life except DP who's never met her. So hoping for some advice. Apologies it's so long but didn't want a drip feed.

Am an only child, grew up abroad and parents still live there. I've been in the UK 20 years and very rarely go back. My childhood was happy in that my parents were affectionate, encouraging and I never wanted for anything. My mum travelled a lot for work so I was just naturally closer to my dad. Mum has always resented that a bit as i'm more like him than her.

From age 12, things changed quite a bit or maybe i just noticed it more. Mum lost her brother and mother around same time and became angrier and more controlling. She and my dad both isolated me from friends by criticising them, not letting me go for their parties saying they were a bad influence and i should focus on my studies. They were all nerdy introverted kids like me..Mum would have terrible mood swings, loving and kind one moment and then raging the next. When in a rage she would lose it publicly and humiliate me and dad. She would get jealous and not talk to me if i spent any time with or said anything positive about another woman, even friend's mums. Dad and I would both dread the days she was home. It was then I decided to get out at 20 and actually my parents helped fund my education abroad. They expected i'd come back eventually but i didn't.

In the last 20 years, my mum has gotten worse. Mood swings and rages. Still gets jealous of friends. She even got jealous of my ex mum-in-law and made me miserable before my wedding because of some perceived slight. All this is in private, in person and with people she's very charming and lovely. She then retired and decided she wanted to move to the UK with me - it wasn't even possible legally but she sulked about it for years after. She said she hated our home country and would only be happy in the UK - to be clear it's not first world, but a democracy, and she is affluent and has no restrictions. I had to reduce contact with her to once a month.

Things reached boiling point 2 years ago. I hadn't visited home because of covid so it was my first time back. It was bad - Dad was very low and depressed - and mum spent the entire time berating him, his past, his family, his personality. She'd become racist and man hating - which was a huge shock as she was so open minded when i was younger. It was 100% abuse. The last time I saw my dad was when my mum was about to hit me for defending him, so i packed my bags and left. Said goodbye at the airport making plans for him to come stay with me, and he looked so sad and defeated -said he couldn't leave his home. That the last decade she spent all her time on her laptop playing games and barely spoke to him. It's one of the only times i saw him cry.

He died a few months later. Had been a healthy man with no ailments and was only 70. No official cause as mum didn't want a post mortem but i think the stress of living with her caused it. She was devastated the entire time and really nice with me for a change. We never mentioned how we left things before. Then when I got back to the UK she started about coming to live with me. No chance. I was her emotional support for months but when she realised she wasn't moving, changed completely. If i didn't answer the phone when she called, she'd message my work. Guilt tripped me about how she had nothing to live for anymore. We had a break of few months. Now we speak once every 2 weeks but i can still sense her anger at everything. Still horrible about my friends. Still hates the world. Still can be charming and lovely and turn on a dime. DP and I getting married and she has no interest in meeting/talking to him, and never mentions him.

Could this be a personality disorder like BPD with the mood swings? Depression? Why is she so possessive of me? She wasn't like this when i was younger, even my dad said so. She refuses therapy, thinks there's nothing wrong with her. But I'm grappling with guilt as in my culture kids look after their elderly parents but i can't. The thought of her dying alone or being in a home far away also worries me - but I also can't bear being around her for more than a few days. I don't know if I'm unfair as she can still be lovely on occasion, and while she criticises others, is always complimentary about me. I just wish i understood her better.

OP posts:
Theedgeoftheabyss · 23/03/2024 10:21

I wouldn't waste time understanding. Move on. Live your life.

HulaChick · 23/03/2024 10:30

I think she sounds narcissistic. What a horrible dilemma for you but I think you're doing the right thing.

Harvestfestivalknickers · 23/03/2024 10:44

Your poor father! I'd use your experience of how she treated him as a reason to distance yourself from her. You say it's usual for people from your country to look after their elderly relatives, just imagine how awful this would be for you and your DP. Don't live your life feeling guilty about your mother. She made your poor father's life hell. I wouldn't worry about labelling her with a personality disorder, what difference does a label make? She's a deeply unpleasant woman.

GreyCarpet · 23/03/2024 13:30

Sounds like your mum experienced trauma - being separated from you through work and the loss of her brother and mother.

Rather than take responsibility for that and seek help, she projected it onto you. That's not your responsibility though.

I had similar (without the periods of niceness - I mean we had periods of her not being utterly fucking awful but that's not the same).

I've been nc for 12 years. I don't have any concerns about her getting old (she'll be 74 this year). I don't have the cultural expectations of looking after her but a friend of mine is in a similar position and has the same cultural expectations. It's hard.

Newestname002 · 23/03/2024 16:35

@renoleno

The thought of her dying alone or being in a home far away also worries me - but I also can't bear being around her for more than a few days. I don't know if I'm unfair

Every time you feel you are wavering and feel you need to obey cultural strictures think of that very last time you were either your father - how ground down, "defeated" and unhappy he was, his tears and the fact he died so soon afterwards, still unhappy with his life. Take a deep breath and resist the urge to bring her closer to your life because I fear she'd make you as unhappy as she made your father. Living with her absolutely does not sound as it would be healthy for you or the life you are planning She has avenues she can take to help with her mental health but she's putting everything on you instead - protect yourself. 🌹

Watchkeys · 23/03/2024 17:00

How will it help you, putting a name to her behaviour? What difference will it make, going forwards, to you and your feelings and actions?

Escapingafter50years · 23/03/2024 17:31

Read up on narcissism, it will help you understand what has been going on, and that you can't make her change. Where a narcissistic person is all sunshine & light in front of others but an ogre at home (particularly to one child) is often known as covert narcissism.

Also have a look at the Stately Homes thread here, there are lots of people who will understand and several useful resources are listed.

FlyingColugo · 23/03/2024 18:03

Your description of your mother sounds so much like mine it's uncanny. Unfortunately that's likely because she has BPD like mine. It's such a confusing disorder it took me many years to realize exactly what was wrong with her. Discovering BPD and reading other's experiences of parents suffering from it was like a lightbulb going off, and it was such a relief to know I'm not alone.

After years of her insisting (like yours) she had to move to the UK to be near me because her country is horrible (it's not) led to suicide threats and increasingly manipulative behaviour I went no contact. Yes the guilt was horrible, but it's worth it to be free from her vortex of emotional chaos. I left the door open to get back in contact if she accepts she has a disorder and seeks out proper psychiatric treatment. But her denial is so deep she'd rather never talk to her only daughter again than accept this. Whatever relationship with your mother you decide is right for you I wish you the best of luck OP.

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