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Is it worth saving?

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premadonna8 · 17/03/2024 02:21

Dh and I have been together for 7 years, married 5. I have a dc from a previous relationship who has never had contact with her bio dad (his choice, he’s a wasted.) Me and dh have had issues on and off since 2020 and have separated on 3 occasions, did a year of counselling which helped a little. We moved to another country in 2022 to get a huge pay bump for him (though I couldn’t keep my
job and took a pay cut in the one I’ve had here for 2 years though I enjoy it more and have more time for dd.)
The cracks are massively showing. We are distant from each other. Every time (rarely) we get a sitter and go out for drinks or dinner we either run out of stuff to talk about after talking about dd or we argue. We just got back from drinks tonight wiile
dd is at a sleepover I organised (as I do all the childcare) and he spent most of it poo pooing a lot of what I said. We got on the subject of seeing bands live, which I loved in my teens/twenties, and as I talked about why I liked it he was like (eye roll face) “I just don’t understand that at all” “who would do that”. He makes little jabs at me
all the time. Sighs heavily all the time. Says we never have sex and I reject his advances (such as annoying innuendos ans him griping me.) His hygiene is bad - bitten fingers and cuticles, bad breath, considerable weight gain. He just wants to game and watch sport or otherwise he goes to bed before 10pm leaving me on the sofa. He’s sulking at me now, as he does often, because he says I’m ‘being funny’. He also seems irritated whenever dd who is 9 talks to him. She is like a vessel for his annoyance. He says shes bratty, he laughs when she gets upset about normal 9yo stuff, he games on headphones and doesn’t engage with her for hours.

but. A big but. If I leave H, me and dd have to leave this country that is now her home. She loves her many friends. She even has kind of an accent here, she loves it here. She has a room she loves, full of her things. It’s a better place, a better life than I could give her on our own, at least materially. But I hate being so mercenary. I hate knowing a large part I am still with H is money when we have so little left holding us together. We aren’t intimate, we don’t enjoy each others company that much, I resent him in many ways.

Should I try and make this work? How? Genuine suggestions please. Is this life better for her? When I had dd as a single mum in mid 20s everyone thought we would have a shit life but here we are living abroad in an amazing place and she’s happy in many ways. I feel I have to keep this going for her even if I just want to fly home and be with my mum and get a little
house and fall apart and rebuild. She hates the idea of me and her stepdad not being together. Even though he’s not that amazing at all to her.

i did love him. Even despite his faults- mainly the sulking and immaturity - I married him in good faith. I thought we would have dc but we have both said we can’t see that happening any time soon due to our issues, and I am mid 30s, I know I am a ticking time bomb. I wonder if I could love him like that again. But I don’t even want sex with him, it makes me cringe. I find him dull. Am I selfish? He just feels safe and I’m clinging to what I know. He probably feels the same about me. I know the grass isn’t greener though.

what the hell should I do? Please help me.

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ZuliKyanLarsFoz · 17/03/2024 02:26

It honestly doesn't sound like you like him at all so I'd say its not worth saving. Are you able to get a visa to stay in the new country on your own merit? I think staying in the relationship would be a bad lesson for you daughter.

Yoe · 17/03/2024 02:33

This is the best advise I can give you . It sounds like you want out ok that’s ok . This will sound very mean but you have to prepare which entails saving as much money as you can before you leave so at least you and your daughter are secure for the future . good luck and be fierce

LadyTiredWinterBottom2 · 17/03/2024 06:32

You will be OK. I clung on to my marriage because l was terrified of not being able to cope financially.

We are women, we do what we have always done - we find a f*cking way. Sure there will be bad days, but you will be happieron the long wrong.

Runor · 17/03/2024 07:38

Reread your post - you know what you want to do, so make plans to make it happen. That might be working out if you can get a visa to stay where you are, or planning a move back to your family. As pp said, save up, make sure you have all the documentation you need. You and dd deserve more than this!

Batnm · 17/03/2024 09:25

9 year olds have a wonderful ability to make friends and be happy wherever they go. Don’t let her grow up thinking your relationship with DH is normal or should be strived for. Think how she’ll feel knowing she inadvertently caused you to be unhappy for years.

You deserve to be truly happy. You get one life, live it. Don’t spend the next 10 years counting down until you “can” leave him. There will always be a reason to stay but by the sounds of your post there are enough reasons to go.

premadonna8 · 17/03/2024 18:08

Thanks for the advice. I’ve been trying really hard to recover my feelings for him
but when he acts like he did last night it’s tough. His moods are erratic and I don’t like the way he is with dd a lot of the time. But breaking up her whole life feels horrendous. I just feel so selfish.

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beatrix1234 · 17/03/2024 18:28

If mums mental health goes down the drain (and if you remain in that miserable marriage it will) who is going to properly take care of your girl? Your video game addicted hubby who doesn’t like interacting with her? You have a child to raise and care for so your health and happiness is most important, you need to stay strong for her. That marriage is sucking the life out. Is there any way you can stay in that country working and keep your girl in the same school?

Watchkeys · 17/03/2024 18:59

You would be doing damage to your daughter by staying in a relationship with someone who doesn't treat you with respect. Your relationship is the template upon which she will judge her adult relationships.

premadonna8 · 17/03/2024 19:53

No, I can’t get a work visa - I applied for a number of postgrad programs where I could’ve got us visas but I didn’t get accepted to any. That was my only option. It feels like if I don’t stay and try my fucking hardest to be content with DH, I will ruin her life and maybe her future. But I can see what you were all saying about how that might impact on me too. I guess I jsut feel like I can suck it up for her.

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StrawberryWater · 17/03/2024 20:27

So you want to stay with him for what?

Things.

Things op.

Not to be harsh but it’s pathetic. Your husband treats your daughter like shit and you like dirt but it’s ok because…. Things.

Grow up and go home where you’ll both have a better quality of life away from this loser.

premadonna8 · 17/03/2024 20:46

No,how is it just things? It’s my daughters entire life,her close group of friends, her school she loves, her home she loves. He isn’t abusive, he’s probably pretty good by a lot of peoples standards, he does the cooking and shopping and helps out a lot, which is why I feel like I would be a fool to leave on some ways. I do work and have savings and we would be ok financially if I left. I just feel really guilty about her losing everything.

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premadonna8 · 17/03/2024 20:46

And I also have friends here and like where we live. It’s really not about money or things.

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beatrix1234 · 17/03/2024 21:31

I don’t understand OP, you say you work (but money is not as good as your last job, ok) so I assume you already have a work visa?

premadonna8 · 17/03/2024 21:33

My visa is attached to my husbands visa. If we split I lose my right to work and stay here.

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beatrix1234 · 17/03/2024 21:49

premadonna8 · 17/03/2024 21:33

My visa is attached to my husbands visa. If we split I lose my right to work and stay here.

oh I see, but if you're already working for a company can't you have said company sponsoring you and change your visa status? Or apply for permanent residency? or Consult with a proper immigration lawyer on what are your options for staying in the country if you decide to remove yourself from husbands visa? Information is power. Seek professional advice.

premadonna8 · 17/03/2024 22:08

I’ve already taken legal advice and my only option was to try for a student visa with the right to work (which I did and got nowhere this year) or to ask my company to sponsor my visa which they won’t do. So I know I will have to go back. I just feel so bad about dd.

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beatrix1234 · 17/03/2024 22:32

premadonna8 · 17/03/2024 22:08

I’ve already taken legal advice and my only option was to try for a student visa with the right to work (which I did and got nowhere this year) or to ask my company to sponsor my visa which they won’t do. So I know I will have to go back. I just feel so bad about dd.

Ultimately have a heart to heart talk with husband telling him this aint working for both and if a decision can be made were you get to stay married and keep your visa for the best of the child?. Again: Make the ultimate decision when all stones have been turned. Also: best to move the child now she's very young that to do it when she's a teen and fully integrated in said country. Young children will adapt if you give her a second good environment. I always believed that moving countries for a man is never a good idea.

citrinetrilogy · 17/03/2024 23:29

Your dd is growing up in a house with a dysfunctional relationship. What is that teaching her? What sort of relationship between a man and a woman is she going to think is normal? By your actions, she is learning that this is how men behave towards women, and women accept it. Is that the sort of relationship you would want her to have in the future?

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