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Perspective on an absent parent

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Kamakiriad · 05/03/2024 22:48

Hi,
Apologies for the length of this post. Any perspective welcome!
Aged 22, I met a 32 year old woman and we had a short relationship. 3 months into the relationship, she asked if I would like children and I said yes. I was an only child, and never knew my father. I lost my mother in my teens due to an incident involving domestic violence. To be a father is something that I very much wanted.
Pregancy soon followed, although few months later we separated, without drama. A few months on, and my ex-partner gave birth to a son. Without reason, I was denied access to him for 3 years. I was not on the birth certificate, and I had no say in naming my son, or indeed any part of his life. During those 3 years, I called and wrote, and turned up at the door asking to see him; the only response I got had been 'oh nothing much is happening, just dirty nappies etc.'. I am a kind, quiet and sensitive person, who did not enjoy confrontation. I withdrew and became anxious, angry with a lot of sadness. I was aware she was back with her ex-boyfriend, who did not want children of his own. After 3 years, I eventually gained access to see my son. I took him out a couple of times, and sat in the evening whilst the mother went out. One Saturday, I had an angry phone call from the mother to say that I should have been there to collect my son, although this is not something we had arranged. I went to the house, and after a brief conversation I asked why she did not let me see my son for 3 years. She replied angrily 'Oh - just come around when you want'. I left that day and for the next few years any feelings I had disappeared into substance abuse. It is now 27 years since I last saw my son. I have since been married and have a son who is 20, that I brought up within a suppprtive family environment. I have not ever told my son about my past, and he does not know he has a half brother, although I would like to explain it. I would not really like my second son to meet my first, as I am afraid that my first son may not be that nice to him. I quite rightly have remorse and guilt for not being there as a dad to my first son and not supporting his mother, although unfortunately, due to how his mother treated me, I did not want to have to confront her each time to see my son. Instead of fighting, I chose not to return. If, after your child was born, someone took him from you for 3 years and cared for him as their own, how would you feel toward the person who took him; and do you think you would feel a different sense of connection towards the child?
Thank you for reading.

OP posts:
Jelliclecats · 05/03/2024 23:10

Nobody “took” your son. You chose to have a relationship without marriage and parental responsibility, then chose to abandon him completely as a young child and not even acknowledge his existence to his sibling. Adult drama and toxicity not withstanding, those were your choices as a parent.

I chose at sixteen and still at school to have my baby even though my family then disowned me. I got a good job, did a degree as a mature single parent student, travelled internationally…my younger children hardly see their much older sibling as they became incredibly successful in their chosen field but we are still all family. I was never un-disowned. Those were MY choices, and the results of them. Don’t blame, and don’t lie.

Meadowfinch · 05/03/2024 23:33

She didn't 'take your son'.

Did you go to court, apply to be put on the birth certificate, and gain a court access order? Build your relationship with your child? Did you provide for your child? That is what any decent father would have done.

Then having 'sat for him' (as if you were somehow doing someone a favour), and taking him out a couple of times, you abandoned him again.

Your absence from your son's life is totally on you. Denying each of them, knowledge of a brother is also totally on you. You need to own that and start being honest - with them and with yourself.

FirstBaba · 06/03/2024 00:00

I think the responses you will get here are likely to be quite harsh but I just wanted to say, I was raised by a single mother and my father never made any attempt to be in my life. He made it very clear to my Mum that he did not want a relationship with me and when I (STUPIDLY) got in touch with him at 18 he confirmed this was still the case lol.
I don't dislike him for not being in my life, I don't feel like I missed out and had an extremely happy childhood. I despise him with a fire hotter than hell for how he treated my mother as soon as she fell pregnant.
Your situation sounds very different though and I think it counts that after your Son was born you made countless attempts to be in his life for a number of years. I sympathise with you because I also know just how twisted some women can be in preventing ex-partners from seeing children due to their own bitter selfishness. It's very sad and I've seen countless examples of it.
I don't feel that enough consideration is given to mens mental health in these circumstances and the expectation is that you continue to get up regardless of how many times you are kicked down and just repeat this cycle for life if that's how long your ex wants to stay bitter for.

NicholJO · 06/03/2024 00:07

Hì op mn is the wrong place to post you can only describe your past relationship in so many sentences please take comfort in I understand what you're saying

MoonWoman69 · 06/03/2024 17:29

I think you were used as a sperm donor sadly and that the mother made it incredibly difficult all round.
It seems to me that a lot of things got handled very badly indeed. Neither of you were clear with each other about rules, going forward.
Reading between the lines it sounds like she was slightly immature and just wanted a baby, no matter what. And you were probably too quiet and gentle in manner, for any sort or confrontation.
Skipping to now, are you in contact with your first son and why do you think he wouldn't be nice to your second son? Would you not be able to explain the situation to them both separately and see what they wanted to do?
He is your son at the end of the day, maybe it would help to build some bridges and make up for the lost years if you wanted to do that?
Wishing you luck, but I warn you, you will get a roasting on here. People tend to read at face value, jump in and don't sit back and think about the possible circumstances around all this.
Good for you for having the courage to post though.

Octavia64 · 06/03/2024 17:33

If someone had taken my children after they were born I would have moved heaven and earth to get them back.

My kids are my world. I have given up so much for them and want to always be there for them.

If someone had taken them I would have spent every penny I had and got everyone I could involved in finding them and getting them back to me.

You did ask.

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