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My partner is messaging his ex

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Regflagoroverreaction · 28/02/2024 06:05

I’ll try to give the full story to avoid drip feeding later.

Ive been with my partner since summer last year, things progressed very quickly and within 5 weeks we had booked to go travelling for 4 months together. We lived around 4.5hours drive from one another, but he stayed at mine for probably 70% of the time between when we met and when we left to go travelling. So I feel we had a deeper relationship than most who have only been together for such a short period. Although I may have my rose tinted spectacles on.

We left the Uk around a month ago. Things have been so difficult since we left. I feel so lonely and isolated, granted the time difference isn’t helping as I can’t speak to friends and family as easily. He is also falling asleep between 8pm and 10pm most evenings which is leaving me feeling undesirable.

I have had a conversation with him about this and he did acknowledge how I felt and to be fair has stayed up a little later a few times, but only if we’re out having dinner / drinks / chatting with other people etc.

He broke up with his ex in March of last year and has always said that he would like to maintain a friendship with her because they worked for the same company and have friends in common. I totally get that. The issue we seem to have is that my opinion of how that relationship would look is completely different to how he envisioned their relationship.

I was of the opinion that, that meant being amicable and cordial, and that things wouldn’t be awkward should they find themselves at the same event or a group gathering. However I have learnt today he expected more. He wants to maintain a friendship on a one to one level, texting privately with each other.

The reasons I find this hard to swallow are

I was so unhappy on the island we previously visited and had booked to stay for 6 nights, and the only day trip I was interested in doing was a tour to see that country’s national animal and the only element of the tour I was okay with doing was feeding the animal, I did not want to touch the animal or have someone force the animal to ‘pose’ so that I could get an instagram worthy picture. Neither of us have seen this animal apart from in a zoo so I was excited to be able to share an experience together for the first time.

He went out by himself the day before we had booked the tour, and randomly saw that animal whilst driving around. He chose to pay to feed the animal pose for pictures etc. I said that was really selfish as that was the only thing I was genuinely excited about. After a blazing row he agreed and said he was caught in the moment and apologised.

Cue the next day, I decided I wasn’t ready to go on the animal tour as part of the excitement for me was having a shared first experience together, he went ahead and I was fine with that.

A few days pass and we’ve had some minor disagreements, and some great days, however it’s hard to escape the betrayal I felt when he was so thoughtless and chose to experience those things alone by chance.

I’ll start this paragraph, by saying I have never nor would I want to go through anyone’s phone especially a partner as I believe the relationship is basically over at that point as the trust has gone. However multiple occasions when he has gone to show me something on his phone, WhatsApp has been the last app used therefore I’ve been able to briefly see the most recent chats. His ex has been towards the top frequently. I questioned this and his said that ‘her favourite animal is -national animal- so he sent her some pics’ I think this is abnormal especially how I explained how I wanted to share this experience with him and he basically went ahead and did it alone and sent the pictures to his ex. Not just pictures of the animals but selfies he had taken of himself and the animal.

He said I was over reacting, however how much it hurt me the follow day, but the apology was ‘I’m sorry it made you feel etc’ not an actual apology as he just can’t understand why I find that disrespectful.

Anyways we book another trip for today, we’re on the bus to the trip and he goes to show me something on his phone. The exs name appears at the top of his WhatsApp’s chat (2nd chat from the top). I ask why he’s still messaging her and he replies that he was basically saying to her that his relationship with his manager is over. (Please understand he left his role and the business to go travelling).

He then tells me that he’s ’only messaged her 4 times in the last four weeks’ which to me seems excessive. I would understand if they shared children in common or a business, but they don’t. He also went to see her in autumn, which made me feel uneasy at the time but I had no reason to feel this insecure at the time.

He accidentally told her about me, and she said that she needed space to process. He respected this although when he was telling me it came across like he was upset. I didn’t know that her stance had changed so to see her name multiple times at the top of his chat histories had made me feel uneasy. I feel like he is trying to pursue something and I’m not sure why. He’s still using her family apple storage, her online login for multiple streaming platforms and even wanted to let her use his sofa while he was away. (He rented his flat out and it was an expensive sofa he was apprehensive about leaving in his flat in case it got damaged - she was also in the process of moving so did need a sofa) which I didn’t think anything of at the time and was fully supportive. However she didn’t want it and he ended up leaving it fully furnished when he rented his flat out.

I just don’t know how to proceed, we have polarising opinions on how to maintain a friendship with an ex.

Can we salvage anything? Is there anything to salvage?

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Shoxfordian · 28/02/2024 06:13

It seems you've rushed into this with someone you don't actually know very well. He's more invested in his ex than he should be and you're not getting on. I don't get the issue with him seeing the animal without you tbh, but it doesn't seem like you're very compatible. Maybe travel separately or cut your losses.

SheepAndSword · 28/02/2024 06:16

It sounds like a series of misunderstandings. Their friendship will fizzle out eventually but perhaps he jumped into a new relationship too quickly after their split.

D1LL1GAF · 28/02/2024 06:19

Book a flight home, or travel independently from him. He is literally having his cake and eating it. Don't let him use you as a doormat

VioletPickles · 28/02/2024 06:23

I think you were being a bit petulant about the animal. I think you ruined that experience (or lack of) yourself. Have you asked him to stop messaging as much or told him how you feel about it? How long were they together?
it does seem that he’s still quite invested in her every day life?

bottomsup12 · 28/02/2024 06:27

Maybe he is over her but he's such a wimp that he's afraid to cut contact because he's afraid of being rude or drama.

IncognitoUsername · 28/02/2024 06:32

How did he accidentally tell her about you? Why wasn’t she meant to know? And what did she need to process? Did she expect him to stay single forever?

Regflagoroverreaction · 28/02/2024 06:34

VioletPickles · 28/02/2024 06:23

I think you were being a bit petulant about the animal. I think you ruined that experience (or lack of) yourself. Have you asked him to stop messaging as much or told him how you feel about it? How long were they together?
it does seem that he’s still quite invested in her every day life?

I can see that. However I was stuck on what was basically a compound, that you couldn’t access without a moped. He took the moped key that I asked him to leave for me, which basically left me stuck there all day. That probably affected how I felt about the series of events, when he was off enjoying himself and I couldn’t get to a shop to buy basics and had to wait 5+ hours for him to come back.

he was with her for 4 years. I believe she ended things because he wanted more and she wasn’t ready.

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Liveandforget · 28/02/2024 06:35

Shoxfordian · 28/02/2024 06:13

It seems you've rushed into this with someone you don't actually know very well. He's more invested in his ex than he should be and you're not getting on. I don't get the issue with him seeing the animal without you tbh, but it doesn't seem like you're very compatible. Maybe travel separately or cut your losses.

all of this. this relationship has no strong foundation, and he has zero respect for you. Its doomed. I would be coming home by myself.

Regflagoroverreaction · 28/02/2024 06:38

IncognitoUsername · 28/02/2024 06:32

How did he accidentally tell her about you? Why wasn’t she meant to know? And what did she need to process? Did she expect him to stay single forever?

He sent a screen shot of a long message that he had sent to one of his family members saying basically that he would be spending Christmas with -my name- but then the rest of the message was how much stress he was under with work.

I believe he forgot about the beginning part of the message and just screenshotted.

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IncognitoUsername · 28/02/2024 06:46

Regflagoroverreaction · 28/02/2024 06:38

He sent a screen shot of a long message that he had sent to one of his family members saying basically that he would be spending Christmas with -my name- but then the rest of the message was how much stress he was under with work.

I believe he forgot about the beginning part of the message and just screenshotted.

He did that on purpose - to see how she would react.
I think you need to sit him down and ask him directly how he feels and you and about her. At this point you have nothing to lose. You can’t spent the next 3 months wondering about it.
I hope you manage to enjoy some of your trip 🌹

Surfapparel · 28/02/2024 07:25

Normally I would say it is fine for exes to be friends, but he isn't over her. The rest I think you're being a bit difficult but it isn't about the frequency of messages, or that he saw her in person, or whatever. It's that he still clearly has feelings for her and the break up was not mutual

Sparkletastic · 28/02/2024 07:29

He is still in love with his ex.

Takenoprisoner · 28/02/2024 08:49

IncognitoUsername · 28/02/2024 06:46

He did that on purpose - to see how she would react.
I think you need to sit him down and ask him directly how he feels and you and about her. At this point you have nothing to lose. You can’t spent the next 3 months wondering about it.
I hope you manage to enjoy some of your trip 🌹

I agree with this, he wanted his ex to know because he wants to make her jealous, in the hope she takes him back. he's emotionally still invested in a relationship with her. Honestly, I don't know how you will get through another 4 months of this? and in answer to your question, there is nothing to salvage here.He has no respect for you and is still hankering after his ex .

MinervatheGreat · 28/02/2024 09:02

You were petulant about the animal. Drop it!
He is still invested in his ex and it’s killing you. Drop him.

This relationship sounds like hard work and you hardly know him to have jumped in so quickly for this amazing trip.
You either put up or shut up.

Shame to abandon and fly home so maybe look for alternative opportunities to tag along with others, separated from him? Do your own thing?
It’s too much hard work and is ruining the memories of your trip.

SpacePotato · 28/02/2024 09:11

I wouldn't want to be someone's second choice.

He still wants her.
I agree he was trying to gauge her reaction by dropping info about you in the email.

ChristmasFluff · 28/02/2024 10:02

Whether he wants to get back woiht her or not, you are the rebound.

That's why it was so intense at the beginning - that's not a good thing, it's him using you as a sticking plaster for his emotions.

I don't even think it's worth having a conversation about, because he will always choose her over you, whatever he says - plus he's thoughtless from what you've said (I still think you were being precious about the animal, but whatever).

It's time to split up now (and have this brilliant experience alone, with your own moped and key, rather than waste more time being upset and second-best to his memory of his gf.

Opentooffers · 28/02/2024 10:23

When his ex dumped him, he was that devastated that he gave up his job as couldn't bare to see her at work and arranged to go travelling.
You were quite foolish to arrange to go travelling with someone after only 5 weeks of knowing them. You barely knew him at that point, but you did know that he was only a few months out of a 4 year relationship.The signs were there that he was on the rebound - you were lovebombed basically.
I'd say best option now is to arrange a flight home, it's horrible being stuck with someone on holiday who you can tell doesn't really want to be there with you.
All the obsessing and going over his communications with her is just a symptom of you knowing deep down that its her he wants to be with, so it's turned you into an emotionally distraught insecure person, probably not someone you thought you'd become.
Chalk it up to experience, learn from it, get home to your family and friends and move on from it. Next time have a solid foundation of at least a year under your belt before doing an extended holiday.

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