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Fedupfred72 · 21/02/2024 09:07

Bear with me with as it's a bit long

Married to my wife nearly 25 years 2 kids 16/18
My wife has been threatening to end our marriage for years now as apparently I'm a shit husband and father. She did so again week before last and something snapped inside so I surved her wth petition for divorce last week although I really fucked up the timing due to in experience of divorce and being more than a little crap.

Basically I have come to the conclusion that she emotionally abuses me. Also Apparently I'm what's called nd which I think has bearing on thi... Also Did has same traits which is what makes her so fab! Nd.... It's new to me but I sometimes struggle to see how people treat me and use to not be unable to see how others saw me. This now all makes a lot of sense as growing up I had no friends.... however after a bit of therapy and being told I'm shit and having been told all my faults in excruciating detail for 30 years repeated ly I'm now quite self aware.

Back to storytime
Last year we had marriage counselling and started off v badly with me being portrayed as total bastard. However by the end of it the lady had to more or less tell her that she has little self awareness and maybe I had a point. At that point apparently the marriage guidance wasn't working and also with the cost due to my business failure we had to stop... which was a shame!.

Going back a few years to COVID we had to take in my brother in law due to an abusive alcoholic cc wife and in law's. This turned into I nightmare that apparently most of the professionals involved had not ever come across. Vwe took huge personal risks taking him and kids in and getting back kids from abusive grandparents. Yes you heard that right and they are judges words re grandparents and in order to save them from foster care I was forced to build an extension on our house (apparently social services didn't like the thought they may have to share bedrooms WTF!! And don't get me started on carcass) so they could come and live with us which took me 16 hour days for a year without a single day off... literally everyday after work. All my weekends no holiday nothing,!. This helped destroy my business as at same time my business partner had a nervous breakdown. You vare probably getting the picture.. I too have suffered with my mental health but when I reached out to her I was told I'm your wife not your therapist sort yourself out I'm your wife not your doctor ... However this bloody house I built is now the stick she metaphorically beats me with.
Moving onto to marriage counselling...
During recent marriage counselling the 2 big issues were my work. 12 hour days six or seven days a week ( however v well paid..many multiples of what I now earn)and drinking...Upton a bottle a night. I told marriage councillor at last meeting that I had wound up my company and stopped drinking.. she suggested that's great you can move on. I suggested not so as she would just move onto new failings that I have. And low and behold she's just moved onto the next set of things to berate me over. Incidentally at counselling I pointed out to her she drank as much or more than me. Her mouth was like a goldfish. She just didn't know what to say. But I can't say things to her face as I'm a bit scared of her....and I'm no shrinking violet! I needed someone there???
To top all off a few weeks ago the doctors thought I had signs of cancer. I was desperate not to let her find out why I was so keen to see a doctor as I knew what would happen. She found out and went right off the deep end. How could I leave her in this mess with everything to sort out. She later apologised but I knew that would be her reaction .. when I got all clear from some of tests she was nice for 24 hours then bam she was back to tearing me another arsehole.
I want to do the best for my kids but I can't stay in the same house as her for another 2 years till DD finishes school.
She does have many great attributes. She can be funny loving caring....but there's all the above and I can't ignore it anymore but I still love her.

To add to it all I have dyslexia and big hands which are frozen after spending 3 hours under her car fixing it having come straight off night shift and not can't feel fingers..and small phone so sorry for the above spelling etc

Someone please help me...

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Aquamarine1029 · 23/02/2024 09:58

A husband and wife both posting on MN. Interesting.

Capmagturk · 23/02/2024 10:06

Opentooffers · 23/02/2024 09:52

OK well we've got 2 sides now. If it's true you built an extension to your house by working 16 hours a day on it, for a year, you must be very accomplished at building things. Then you fix cars too for hours! A jack of all trades you could say, however, there are tradesmen and people who you can and should of outsourced these jobs to so that you would not have had your business go down the pan and possibly caused your business partner to have a breakdown as I can only presume you left him to do all the work for a year while building your own extension.
Anyway, now you'll have a large house that's worth more, so sell it and get your own place if your DW that bad.
Some things don't add up here, what are the chances that a person who is thinking about their mother on the anniversary of her death, are going to check bank details on the same day? It's not a thing people check daily, and you could of just either told her a day or 2 later, or waited for her to spot and ask about it- which I doubt she would have on that day.

Absolute nonsense I check my bank every single day. Even on the day my mum died. Takes two seconds to log in and look.

MeAndMrs · 23/02/2024 11:09

Someone please help me...

What do you want.

trippingthelightfantastic1 · 23/02/2024 14:55

I'm guessing you looked on the computer/laptop, saw your wife's post then decided to make your own?

Aquamarine1029 · 23/02/2024 15:51

Ah rats, your wifey has taken her thread down.

twingiraffes · 23/02/2024 16:48

Something that is often said on threads like this is that joint counselling is not always a good idea if there is a lot of conflict or blame in a relationship.

Perhaps have some counselling by yourself, and that will clarify things for you.

Fedupfred72 · 23/02/2024 17:34

No she didn't tell me she was going to psist and vis versa..However last time she threatened to leave a year or two back she did post and left the laptop open so I and everybody I've kids could see including me! So this time I thought I would ask for help as that's the purpose of this site and I've got nobody to bounce my thoughts off. However I agree I don't think joint councilling over Mumsnet is a good thing though as there is never enough space to put both sides and I think you can get some really toxic advice if you're not careful. That's only my quick takeaway from this experience

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Fedupfred72 · 23/02/2024 17:37

Tripleingthefantatic one. Yes once I realised what was going to happen it was bad enough, I thought It better to let her know so at least I had bothered to tell her,as like you she checks daily out of habbit where as I never do as I don't have access

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Capmagturk · 23/02/2024 18:04

I think it sounds like the best solution to divorce. Life is FAR too short to stay in an unhappy marriage (that applies to both of you) and its not setting a good example to your children. Far better to see their parents apart and happy than berating each other and arguing. Itl be difficult at first without a doubt but hopefully in time you'll be much happier without the aggro.

MeAndMrs · 23/02/2024 19:08

Fedupfred72 · 23/02/2024 17:34

No she didn't tell me she was going to psist and vis versa..However last time she threatened to leave a year or two back she did post and left the laptop open so I and everybody I've kids could see including me! So this time I thought I would ask for help as that's the purpose of this site and I've got nobody to bounce my thoughts off. However I agree I don't think joint councilling over Mumsnet is a good thing though as there is never enough space to put both sides and I think you can get some really toxic advice if you're not careful. That's only my quick takeaway from this experience

That is a coincidence posting at the same time, of course it could be said that you are both going through a heightened period of stress, what with you filing for divorce, but that must have hurt her.

I thought you were going to put it off till after the exams.

I would say however toxic this has become, being the first one to file is hurtful to the other party, like any of the other firsts, such as first one to leave the marital bed, first to leave the marital home and first to instruct a solicitor.

Be kind and remember you are male with more capabilities of being intimidating.

You have also posted some quite outing stuff about her family, keep it fair and don't be cruel.

Fedupfred72 · 23/02/2024 19:08

Yes but cannot get over how I feel about her and I know I'm not the easiest of people to live with as I'm full on. The comment someone made earlier about how I let my business partner run business while vi built our house is not so... I worked all day then came home and worked all evening and all weekends for a year which I know is an example of slightly obsessive behaviour... although I was doing for right reasons.

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MeAndMrs · 23/02/2024 19:19

Yes but cannot get over how I feel about her

But you feel she is to blame, just be mindful of your treatment towards her.

Fedupfred72 · 24/02/2024 09:00

Yes ... understood

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