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Please do not flame me - I am already do that

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wherediditallgosowrong · 13/02/2024 16:46

My husband and I have not been a couple for more than 4 years. He moved out more than a year ago for a year and a half and owing to health news he moved back in about 6 months ago. We are both decent people (although suddenly I am not sure I am, always thought I was) but cannot seem to make a marriage work between us and have been hanging on on the outside as we both desperately adore the kids and don't want them traipsing between two homes. It has been an emotional intimacy problem and we just seem to be from different plants. Currently in the middle of purchasing a second home. It has taken a long time to get practical matters sorted.

Anyway we agree when we separated that we could see other people, though since it is not something we have discussed. When he separated I was pursued by someone, not in a full on way but after a few months (where I was just about coping with handling a lot on my own) I noticed his attention. I was so oblivious during it cause I was just not in the headspace and I guess I wasn't identifying myself as single at all or was very slow to. Over a consistent 6 months or so Id get the odd friendly message but didn't think anything of it.

Anyway we met up in the last few months. We had such lovely times in the first month or so and then he suddenly admitted his ex had been in touch. I was utterly gutted. I would have never pursued him (not that I am blaming anyone else) and when I did let my guard down, I really fell for him. And I suppose because he had been around for a good period of time, I sort of decided to trust him. We have very similar interests and well generally I really liked similar things in life. Anyway he sucked me back in (not sexual but romantic) and we hang out sporadically in the Autumn doing various date things together, but it became clear (albeit very slow as I seem to have become a bit daft in dating as I have been out of the game) that he was holding back in lots of ways but still at the same time pursuing me. The only way I can make sense of it is that he sort of decided what he could do with me that was morally acceptable to him (as it turned out all the while he was back with his girlfriend!). Needless to say, I was utterly gutted and confronted him and called it a day. He knew I liked him and he had me in his pocket. I still am utterly gutted cause I thought it was sort of special.

A few weeks after this he got in touch, we went for a walk, I asked why the hell had he not been straight with me and he said it was cause he knew I would stop seeing him. Self serving I know, but I do now we became quite close.

Anyway we met up a couple of times. It's reached the end I suppose, which from a friendship point of view (disregarding his dishonesty) is sad, as I hadn't been with someone I could do things with for years and years. I genuinely really fell for him.

I never thought I would be in a position like this, a bit sore about something and now going through a divorce. It's horrible and my actions have caused my self esteem and self worth plummet, my own fault. As a result, I am internally panicking about leaving the safety and care of my marriage. Realizing there are such sh#ts out there has frightening me. Also realizing that I can fall for such a cad and my judgement was so off has frightening me too.

My husband and I have an agreement and I have spoken to him about my friendship with this guy. However it is making me see that although my marriage has been very unhappy for years that I am now second guessing myself.

Anyway I know this all sounds dreadful as I am not divorced yet. Flame me but my separation and forthcoming divorce has been very very protracted. I now completely appreciate why people say divorce first. I don't expect sympathy at all, but I am not a bad person and I didn't foresee anything like this happening ever in my life.

I have no idea how to shake the hurt and blow and compartmentalise everything to ensure I am making a sound decision, this time.....

OP posts:
Aquamarine1029 · 13/02/2024 16:52

I don't see anything to flame you over, so just let go of this misplaced guilt. It's a pointless use of your emotional energy.

All I can say is that you have one life and you deserve happiness, your kids deserve a happy mum, and they don't deserve to live in a home with parents who no longer wish to be together.

wherediditallgosowrong · 13/02/2024 17:01

Aquamarine1029 · 13/02/2024 16:52

I don't see anything to flame you over, so just let go of this misplaced guilt. It's a pointless use of your emotional energy.

All I can say is that you have one life and you deserve happiness, your kids deserve a happy mum, and they don't deserve to live in a home with parents who no longer wish to be together.

Thank you. The few friends I have talked to have assured me that I haven't done anything wrong, but I feel like I have.

I guess the things I need some help or opinion are

  • Coming to terms with the fact that someone who I really trusted used me and I fell for it. Or did he used me, or is his relationship as messed up as mine has been, granted he hasn't left his. Eughh I feel rotten thinking that.
  • Why didn't he just let me go when he got back with his ex. It was so comfortable and familiar it hurts to think he can let go of the connection. There is no wat we can be friends.
  • How can I believe I can have a good life post divorce. This experience has left such a crap taste in my mouth, all I can see is the negative now (and a loss of faith in myself), how I will put my kids through an enormous change and fundamentally change their childhood and either I will be miserable alone (never was before my marriage) or I will end up dating users and fall for their crap.
  • For the kids is it not better to really try to make some sort of marriage work. My husband and I are good people, just a terrible match.
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Mumtoboys82 · 13/02/2024 17:05

OP there's nothing for you to feel guilty about here! So stop that right away. You are entitled to be happy. Do you think, subconsciously, you felt guilty about 'dating' this other man so you allowed him to be distant/not fully with you?

I think you need to put him behind you. Separate from your husband properly and enjoy some time with your friends, your children, then when you feel stronger you will see dating as an added bonus, not a necessity. Not every date has to turn into a relationship but you can have fun exploring the dating world when you are ready.

Aquamarine1029 · 13/02/2024 17:08

Op, we have all been fucked over by people in our lives. It happened, it's over, just let it go. You'll never get the answers as to why he did what he did and it really doesn't matter. Live and learn and remember that not everyone is like this one man.

As far as your kids go, it is never a good idea to raise children in a home where the parents are so unhappy. Dysfunctional breeds dysfunction, and that's not a fate you want to burden your kids with.

wherediditallgosowrong · 13/02/2024 17:23

The whole thing has just knocked my confidence.

And now much more scared about leaving the family unit, for the kids and me. And feel bad for my husband who is a decent guy.

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Opentooffers · 13/02/2024 17:30

There are always going to be men out there who lie about being unattached and yet still pursue. You probably fell for him as you were vulnerable at the time and he cheered you up and massaged your ego when you needed it. But the problems still lie underneath once the distraction is over, so then it's back to feeling like crap again, even more so when lied to.
All anyone can do to avoid attached men is ask them the right direct questions. They can still lie, so it's important to know where they live, visit, see if there are any signs of anyone else living or stopping over with them. Then as time goes on, meet friends and family. If a relationship never gets as far as meeting friends, it's superficial. Never get caught in a bubble of just the two of you, as that is what people who hide stuff encourage.
You'll get more savvy about it in time. You should give it plenty of time before dating once you've split so you are less vulnerable.

HelpWendy · 13/02/2024 21:37

Thanks @Opentooffers - yeah this one really pulled the wool over my eyes. Didn't realise I was such easy prey! This being naive again all of a sudden is a shock to the system.

I thought we were good friends, I really did. So yeah my confidence has been knocked and it's just really impacted how I see myself managing in the future, due to move in a month. I have always been seen and felt a capable and confident person, but now I've realised how fragile I have become over the last few years in marriage and with kids.

HelpWendy · 13/02/2024 21:50

Mumtoboys82 · 13/02/2024 17:05

OP there's nothing for you to feel guilty about here! So stop that right away. You are entitled to be happy. Do you think, subconsciously, you felt guilty about 'dating' this other man so you allowed him to be distant/not fully with you?

I think you need to put him behind you. Separate from your husband properly and enjoy some time with your friends, your children, then when you feel stronger you will see dating as an added bonus, not a necessity. Not every date has to turn into a relationship but you can have fun exploring the dating world when you are ready.

I probably did feel guilty, which probably made me more lenient and well feel sure who am I to judge someone else

HelpWendy · 13/02/2024 21:51

Aquamarine1029 · 13/02/2024 17:08

Op, we have all been fucked over by people in our lives. It happened, it's over, just let it go. You'll never get the answers as to why he did what he did and it really doesn't matter. Live and learn and remember that not everyone is like this one man.

As far as your kids go, it is never a good idea to raise children in a home where the parents are so unhappy. Dysfunctional breeds dysfunction, and that's not a fate you want to burden your kids with.

Really good advice. I just don't get why someone would seek you out to such an extent over such a period of time just to F you over. I'm alright but no super model!

HelpWendy · 03/05/2024 13:50

AND he's back.

He's been in touch again, a lot in fact after a month or so of no contact.

He's broken up with his ex and I swear his expectation is that I will console him. I had to weed it out of him.

God F?CK sake I wish he wasn't such good company.....

I have said no and I know it would be the most unsensible thing to do.

Tillievanilly · 03/05/2024 14:11

It sounds as if your marriage was a bit on/off for a while. It looks like you really tried with your marriage. It’s nones business but yours and your dh. I would think you attracted this man because you were in a vulnerable place and maybe couldn’t see him for what he really is. Blocking is probably the answer and therapy to build your boundaries!

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