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Cheating

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suzysweet · 31/01/2024 13:29

Sorry it’s a long one . My husband and I , together for over 20 years, 3 children, separated a few years ago, just before lockdown. We never really separated though, he still came round all the time, had tea at ours a couple of times a week, we got on well and still had sex on and off. During the time we were separated , we had discussed that if either of us wanted to see other people we would let the other one know, I’d asked him numerous times as felt I was getting such mixed signals from him. He always said no he didn’t want to see other people and was not even thinking about it as he had to sort himself out first before anything else.Anyway a friend at work showed me a guy on a dating site she was on and then flicked through a few faces and there was my husband. I obviously confronted him, he said he wasn’t on it anymore, his friend had suggested it, he realised it wasn’t right but just wanted to chat to someone. I believed him and he came off the site. We decided he would move back in about 8 months after this.first couple of months good , then it seemed to slide back into old routines, me doing everything, no affection and feeling like he had only come back as it was convenient and cheaper than him living on his own and renting somewhere. One of our children became ill and I was also not well waiting for test results so we became distant again , I felt something was wrong. I checked the dating site again and he had been back on it numerous times paying a month at a time over the last 6 months since he’d moved back in.
I also then started digging and found a folder on his iPad with photos of a woman I didn’t know. I found a booking for a weekend away , 3 months before he moved back in with me, I found he’d FaceTimed her on numerous occasions for at least an hour a time. When I confronted him he tried to lie, he said the photos were of somebody at work and she’d sent them to show him the clothes she was wearing, I eventually got it out of him though when he saw everything else I’d uncovered,she was a married woman, married to a man he worked for, they hadn’t gone away together, because he realised it was wrong , it actually had been cancelled the week before they were due to go, he said the last time he’d seen her was to tell her it was over and she was very upset as she had an abusive husband and he had to block her to stop her contacting him. Now we were separated and probably hadn’t had sex for the last 6 months but he was obviously seeing her for over a year that I could see from evidence I gathered, bank accounts details of drinks and meals that he admitted were with her and the photos were sent over the previous 2 years. I felt completely betrayed and that everything he’d told me was a lie , he admitted having sex with her but said he was lonely and she needed to talk to him about her terrible marriage. All this time though he was seeing me, even when I said I needed him to stop coming round and leave me to get over him , he knew I still loved him and kept me hanging on while he was also seeing this other woman and on dating sites. We had a huge fallout and discussion about whether we could go on , he said he had been very depressed and hated living on his own and was lonely, I tried to forgive him again and he seemed to be making a huge effort and things have been great for the past few months but this last couple of weeks I have been ill again with a virus and obviously not taking so much care of him as trying to get better. I had a feeling something was off with him again so have just checked his emails and the dating site and he was back on it again and sent a few likes to different people and also chatted then suspended his account again after 24 hours. I’ve looked back and he’s done this 3 times in January. If anyone has got to the end of this essay, tell me what you think. I think I’ve had the wool pulled over my eyes for a long time and I can’t believe anything he says, is chatting and going on dating sites cheating? Just going to have a look on the sites is bad enough, he admitted to seeing and having sex with the woman once when we were separated but said he ended it , I don’t believe him. I can’t trust him but am now in a much worse financial position than when he came back, he is terrible with money and has taken out another mortgage on the house without discussing it with me and all my savings has gone trying to keep us afloat . Tell me the truth of what you see here , is it as bad as I think and have I been sticking my head in the sand for too long?

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SuperBored · 31/01/2024 13:35

Do you really need people to answer this? Sorry but if you re-read your own post I'm sure you can answer the question yourself.

ToWorkOrNotToWork · 31/01/2024 13:38

Yes - I think you need to cut your losses, he has been taking advantage of you.

This reads: “dh depended on me for all the household and life admin; marriage broke down whilst he was having a secret affair; after we separated dh still wanted to have his cake and eat it so he still popped over regularly; after dh and I had reconciled he went back to treating me like a domestic help and simultaneously took out a mortgage secretly and stole the money leaving me in debt. Then I found out about the affair too.”

Why on earth would you stay with this man??

suzysweet · 31/01/2024 14:03

When you put it like that , it does look like I’m the biggest mug going but I don’t have any evidence he cheated, I only know about one woman when we were separated, which isn’t really cheating. I know it even sounds to me like I am making excuses for him and I know he tries to wriggle out of it when every I ask him about it. Basically though you are right I don’t trust him, I don’t 100% believe that he hasn’t cheated all through out our marriage , I think he always tries to make it sound as if I’m imagining it or being paranoid , which is why I need proof. I know he has definitely gone back on the dating site 6 days ago, I feel I need more before I can confront him and also need a plan on how to manage when I ask him to leave. Financially we are both stuck which makes things a lot more complicated . Just some reassurance that I’m not imagining it all is what I need though, even if it is hard to take .

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TonyaD1986 · 31/01/2024 14:27

I’m so sorry to hear you’re going through this. It’s difficult as you have a long standing history together and 3 children. I myself went through something similar to this. It felt like it was me doing all the work and then discovering messages to different women, just felt like a massive slap in the face. If he really loved you and wanted to make a go of things, that dating app would have gone when you both decided to give it another go. The fact he’s still popping in and out makes me feel he’s with you until he can find someone else.
the remortgage situ is pretty crap. From my own experience, when I let my partner go, I was able to sort out my finances and it didn’t feel like someone was just hanging off me all the time. With you recently being poorly and not being well enough to take care of him… that answers a lot of questions. Is having him around line having another child to take care of? Sometimes letting go is hard but not as hard as hanging on. Can you really trust him again?

Caffeinedetox · 31/01/2024 14:29

Out of your whole post this is what stood out to me:

"things have been great for the past few months but this last couple of weeks I have been ill again with a virus and obviously not taking so much care of him as trying to get better."

Sorry what now?!

Also, yes he's cheating. Yes he has cheated and yes, he probably will continue to cheat. And lie. Even if he is "just" talking to women on online dating apps. That is cheating.

Having to regularly go through his laptop, phone, bank account etc is not a healthy or normal relationship.

Get rid of this absolute user.

BlastedPimples · 31/01/2024 14:47

He's disgusting. Deceitful. And just full of shit.

EvenMoreFuriousVexation · 31/01/2024 14:49

Get legal advice on the remortgage behind your back. You might be able to shift that debt to him solely - I don't know, but he's committed fraud. That's enough to leave him, never mind the cheating.

As for the rest, I won't blame you because we want to believe when we're in love, don't we? But now your blinkers are off, you can't unsee the lies and deceit. He's made it very very clear by his actions that he will NEVER be sexually faithful to you. So you either accept that he's going to fuck other women, or you fuck him off.

BTW he doubtless came back because the OW wouldn't have him. It would be interesting to hear her take on things.

SuperBored · 31/01/2024 15:31

Why do you need 'proof' just read your message and see what you are resorting to and how it makes you feel, and if you split, keep him at arms length no matter how much you love him, because he doesn't love or respect you.

Ladyj84 · 31/01/2024 16:05

Your both as stupid and immature as each other. Any kids I feel sorry for stuck between you 2

IslaMai · 13/07/2024 03:14

Hey I’m so sorry you have to go through this! You must be feeling so much emotions at once… I’m actually going through something similar but haven’t confronted yet and within 2 days will be starting a divorce. I too have kids and married for 10 years. What iv found is if there’s lies involved he must be a narcissist, it feels almost like your blaming yourself for him going on this dating app just because your ill and couldn’t be 100% there it doesn’t give him the right to go on a dating app to find himself another fuck buddy.

you are stronger than you know, yes financially probably not where you’d want to be, but think properly, maybe him being there has put you in a financially worse place?

Don’t waste any more of your time on someone who you cannot trust, because without trust there will be constant conflict, and him doing all this doesn’t help him gain your trust.

no matter what you decide to do, remember you are stronger than what you think ❤️

Guavafish1 · 13/07/2024 03:29

He is horrible and I would not put up with this miserable situation.

He is using and abusing you.

Get rid of him and get legal advice

Lurkingandlearning · 13/07/2024 04:35

I think I understand why you are focusing on the possibility that he has cheated - that would be a cut and dried reason to end your marriage- one definitive issue. But you are doing yourself a disservice.

You don’t trust him and you have good cause. That’s enough to end it. On top of that he is unsupportive and makes you unhappy. He is deceitful and bad with money.

If it is a joint mortgage he has committed fraud. If it isn’t and he legally remortgaged he has still set up a debt which I think will be considered a joint debt for should you divorce. But even if you don’t divorce the mortgage will be paid from what should be family money so either way he has shafted you.

All these issues are why you should end your marriage. You might end up financially worse off for a while but you’ll be happier and your children will be happier. They will also be more secure once you have control of your finances.

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