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Should i go back to DH?

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littlefluffycloud5 · 27/01/2024 17:18

Hi, regular here but nc for this. I would like to hear from people who have gone back after a short separation, or been through any separation.

I left my DH just under 2 weeks ago after a big argument where he told me to leave.

Its a long story but we moved to the US 2 years ago for DH job - it was kind of an attempt to repair our marriage after a period of lockdown-induced stress where DH was behaving badly around DS and me, and we had 2 separations including one where he walked out before Christmas. In hindsight i think i wanted him to come back because of my terrible mental health at that time, and I did still think we could return to the first 1-2 years together where we really loved each other and had a good sex life. So we had some counselling, then jumped at the chance to move to the US for a 'fresh start' as we had always talked about it as a fun opportunity. DH and i clash on parenting over everything else- he is strict and i am more measured. He has also always been a terrible sulker- storming off from days out, threatening to leave, saying horrible things, as bad as 'i hate you', which he then retracts. He has had individual therapy and feels a lot of his upbringing is to blame, which I accept. I guess that was why i wanted to reconcile and come to the US a couple years ago, because I did feel what we had was worth it.

When we had been here a few months DH started getting bogged down in work and seemed to refuse to appreciate our life here, which to be fair is a huge lifestyle upgrade from the UK, or enjoy anything. I was the only one making plans for weekends or holidays and looking after the house, he was just gaming in his free time, being snappy again with me and DS, pressuring me to get pregnant as he said otherwise we would be too old and he didnt want to be an 'older dad' like his dad was (we were both 34 at that point.) I was trying to retrain and pushed back. We had some bad arguments and were in a shit place. Him calling me a 'shit wife', etc. On a week away as part of my training I made a connection with someone else and had an affair over the summer. I'm not going to try and explain/excuse it. The OM appreciated me being good at my job and made me feel good, wanted me, etc. I felt horrendous but in the 'expat bubble' it's almost like it wasn't 'real'. I cant explain it. I feel like the cognitive dissonance was a big part of it for me. Never cheated before. I think I did, and even still do, love OM but I could see how I was blowing up my and DS life thousands of miles away from our support network and it was incredibly stressful (as it should have been.) I told DH at the end of the summer what had happened. He was understandably devastated. We had a planned holiday we went on a couple of weeks later, went back to counselling, but we have struggled since because as DH admits, he resents me, is angry with me and it doesnt take much for family days to turn into a sulk or row, although this was the case before too, it has been worse since DH found out about my affair.

I never expected to meet someone who turned my head and often I wish I had never met the OM and had never realised how far gone my and DH relationship was. Its definitely been a death by a thousand cuts thing for a couple of years, but now DH has a good reason to say its all because I had an affair this summer, and I am to blame. We have been trying to make it work, as his family were visiting over Xmas, but I have felt numb for a while. Its not that I have lost all feelings for DH, thats the problem. I still liked curling up in bed against him, cuddling with him watching re-runs, going for walks as a family. I love the life we have built here, and I wanted to make it work for DS who is happy here. I think maybe DH cannot forgive me for the affair as he has been cheated on before. But he has stayed. However, as i said, a couple weeks ago we had another row with DS at home and when he told me to leave I realised that was what we had to do, so I did leave, with only a few things. DS has done an overnight there as he missed DH and our pets, but DS has also said that he likes being in the new place with me.

I saw DH for the first time last night when I went to get some stuff for DS from 'home' and we talked as DS was at a playdate elsewhere. I could see how DH was keeping his distance emotionally. He said he has had times of feeling angry and times of missing me. He said he thinks i'm 'really special' and still loves me, he is still wearing his wedding ring, and that the last couple of weeks have been really weird and quiet. He wants me to come home this weekend with DS and try again. He says he regrets saying nasty things and telling me to leave.

I honestly dont know what to do. I miss our home comforts, and it is scary being in a foreign country separated and i feel very sad in the mornings and evenings because I miss our old life and even DH at times. But i have stuck out being on my own and adjusting for 2 weeks and when I saw DH yesterday I think i realised how maybe the damage is done, even if we 'try harder', maybe we will never go back to when things were good. He says he loves me but I dont feel it. And i feel i love him, but i know it's not the passionate or unconditional love I had for him before resentment set in, which was a few years ago. I dont want to confuse anyone by prolonging the uncertainty, but I feel like I am paralysed in indecision. Should i go back, having had a taste of living alone, not knowing if things will get better? Or should i stay gone and accept the future? If we split up for good, DH wants to go back to the UK, but he says if we stay together we can jointly decide whether to stay here or go. So i am faced with the choice of uprooting DS for the second time in 2 years, or potentially preserving his life as he knows it now, but at the cost of my own choices. And I just dont know, however lovely his room is here or however nice our holidays, whether our home is already 'broken' even with me and DH still together. The OM still contacts me and I think if i wanted to rekindle things with him, he would jump at it - but not even that is making the decision easier. I feel like this is my chance to make a good choice for DS and me, not related to relationships. The flipside is, DH is a high earner and I have taken a step back in my career especially since we moved, and it would be financially difficult at least for a while if we split permanently. I dont have a 'home base' in the UK as my family are scattered all over and I cant afford to move back to London. It feels like a choice between practicality and familiarity, or the unknown and possibly peace/healing.

Ultimately I am just scared of the future, of making the wrong choice. Any advice would be great.

OP posts:
FinallyHere · 28/01/2024 08:19
  • big argument where he told me to leave.

we had 2 separations including one where he walked out before Christmas.

terrible sulker- storming off from days out, threatening to leave, saying horrible things, as bad as 'i hate you', which he then retracts. He has had individual therapy and feels a lot of his upbringing is to blame*

Once a sulker, always a sulker.

I'm so sorry for you in this situation but really think you would be doing yourself and your DC a favour by not going back.

If you do try again, you are just going to be waiting for the next time he kicks off. This is not a man who can discuss things reasonably. Don't beat yourself up over having an affair, that's just your unconscious telling you how unhappy you are with this terrible man.

The sooner you get out (especially before your children are considered settled in the states for emigration purposes) the better.

Good luck.

Grimchmas · 28/01/2024 10:58

I dont know, maybe i am making DH sound terrible, he isnt.

I don't think it's you making him sound terrible - it's his actions that make him sound terrible!

He didnt deserve to be cheated on.

No, that I can agree with. However as I said earlier, I can see that you cheated because the other guy offered you things you weren't getting from your marriage. Emotional safety and somebody acting kindly, lovingly and securely towards you is not too much to ask for in a marriage.

You cheated because your marriage is lacking what you need from a relationship. I don't think that the obvious conclusion is to go back, be faithful and squash your needs back down and lock them in a box and pretend that they don't matter.

He is generous and a good provider, he is up for adventures, he supports me in what i want to do, he can be very comforting, and I know he does love me and DS and he has always believed in "us".

Do the good points outweigh his bad points though? To me it is obvious that they don't. They also come with an obligation to suppress and deny your own feelings, needs and freedom of expression.

He is generous as long as I toe the line

He is a good provider so he expects me to tolerate his abuse

He supports me in what I want to do as long as that's not to be in a relationship free from the fear of anger & sulking and as long as I don't show any emotions that aren't convenient to him and his narrative.

He is however a big sulker, has a temper and is a poor communicator.

Which is abusive behaviour by the way. No really, genuinely, it's manipulative, abusive and not the actions that show that somebody loves you and believes in "us".

The way he finds it hard to rein this in around DS since he was tiny has killed a lot of love i had for him.

Yes, abusive men are rather hard to love aren't they.

i have become very withdrawn in terms of communication in order to avoid conflict, which is not like me at all.

Yes, the shouting, sulking, quick to anger temper will have you modifying your own behaviour in order to avoid conflict. Which is why it's manipulative and abusive behaviour. You're being trained to suppress and deny your own feelings and needs in order to satisfy his.

DH maintains he doesn't know what he wants, that he 'cannot' give me any reassurance and i am the one who should be reassuring him and making the effort.

I can tell you what he wants: he wants you to knuckle under and behave like a good WifeBotTM while he can behave exactly as he wants without criticism or consequences.

Your affair will always be used as a stick to beat you with, forever.

Meanwhile your guilt over the affair is preventing you from seeing clearly what should actually be happening; HE is the abusive manipulative one and has been for years.

He said he loves me but he doesnt know if its 'enough'. I got a bit upset at the end of the day and he was then very quick to anger that i was not being calm

There we have it again, you're being trained that you're not allowed to have emotions. He wants you to be a stepford wife. He wants impunity from consequences to his anger and sulking.

and he sent me a nasty message after, saying 'i cant believe you did that in front of DS, i thought we had a good day but now you have ruined it and we are back at square one or even further behind, you have shown me I can't be honest with you about how i feel'.

DARVO: Reverse Victim & Offender. Utter gaslighting.

Ugh its such a mess. I feel bleak in this apartment with hardly any of our stuff, missing our home

Part of that is that you're alone without your support network abroad.

QuarterPastThree · 28/01/2024 11:03

Do you even have the right to remain in the country any more? Usually spouses can stay if their husband/wife has a job and it is all part of the package, but now? You need to find out fairly urgently I'd say.

Loubelle70 · 28/01/2024 11:12

littlefluffycloud5 · 28/01/2024 02:12

I dont know, maybe i am making DH sound terrible, he isnt. He didnt deserve to be cheated on. He is generous and a good provider, he is up for adventures, he supports me in what i want to do, he can be very comforting, and I know he does love me and DS and he has always believed in "us". He is however a big sulker, has a temper and is a poor communicator. The way he finds it hard to rein this in around DS since he was tiny has killed a lot of love i had for him. The amount of times he has made me cry, or panic because he was so angry or threatened to leave.... he is always apologetic but it just isnt right. And its obvious to me having been away that i have become very withdrawn in terms of communication in order to avoid conflict, which is not like me at all.

We met up today to take DS to a planned activity and had the chance to talk a bit. It was calmer and a good talk to some extent but DH maintains he doesn't know what he wants, that he 'cannot' give me any reassurance and i am the one who should be reassuring him and making the effort. He said he loves me but he doesnt know if its 'enough'. I got a bit upset at the end of the day and he was then very quick to anger that i was not being calm, and he sent me a nasty message after, saying 'i cant believe you did that in front of DS, i thought we had a good day but now you have ruined it and we are back at square one or even further behind, you have shown me I can't be honest with you about how i feel'. I guess it was just the way he talked about his feelings for me that upset me and triggered my abandonment stuff, but i dont feel me being a little upset 'undid' the conversation we had, or that i ruined anything. He couldnt not be angry at me. Which further makes me think this could just be the end. Not because i was upset, but because he was angry. Im so tired of feeling nervous like that. I know i have made mistakes. But it makes me feel like i cant even ask for a bit more space, like he will just end our marraige on a knee jerk if I talk to him the wrong way, or am not ready when he is.

Ugh its such a mess. I feel bleak in this apartment with hardly any of our stuff, missing our home, DS feeling stressed, and knowing i could go back regardless of what DH has said, he would continue on, i would just have to act in the way he wanted. Which i could probably do. But for how long?

Tell him youre not sure either now... Hes pushed you further away because hes an emotional blackmailer etc...tell him that. So tell him it is over. Tell him you know his emotional games and youre not willing to be constantly punished if you got back together, because hes already doing it and youre not even together.

LaTricoteuseVieux · 28/01/2024 11:14

OP, please read, reread and read @Grimchmas post again. It is spot on.

Then look up coercive control and DARVO.

Then book tickets for you and your little one and go home.

Your husband is an abuser. Please don't bring your child up in a household where he will be exposed to it.

Renamed · 28/01/2024 11:28

If you go back he has it all, he’s a saint because he “fixed” his marriage and he will be able to blame you for everything , forever, because you had an affair- and it sounds like he always blamed you for everything anyway. This is not good for you and DS but it’s not good for HIM either. He can’t learn from this if things go back to how they were. And he needs to or he will always be unhappy and make others unhappy too.

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