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Dating/relationship dilemma

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Wafflethewonderdoggy · 25/01/2024 15:36

I think I know what to do but still feeling stressed and conflicted and torn between two men.

After a separation 18 mos ago, about a year ago I met a man (let’s call him man A!) who was in the process of separating from his partner and in a similar situation to what I had been in. We formed a really intense connection, things got physical which they shouldn’t have done, feelings ran very deep, neither of us had ever felt that way etc etc. I (belatedly) did the right thing and said I didn’t want to do that, give me a call when he was single etc. was really really hard and we struggled to break off contact so have stayed in touch.
He was working up to leaving his partner (not for me exactly, he had wanted to leave anyway and had been unhappy for a long time) but kept bottling it, still he kept saying about wanting to be with me. Was respectful about the friendship line but did push the boundaries and I was firmer on that than him. I really just started to think he wasn’t going to leave her and was hating how I was feeling too invested in it and like I was waiting in the wings. So set a deadline in my mind of September and started online dating then (I told him this).
intended to keep it quite casual as deep down hoping it might still happen for us as no one lived up.

met someone lovely in October (call him man B!). Initially I was quite commitment phobic and holding back as still had feelings for man A. It’s been totally different as he’s not so emotional, not gushy or at all love bomby (which in retrospect I realise man A was/is). And struggled at first to feel if he was that into me. There’s no drama, he’s sadly widowed and has a son so that’s a challenge but he lives 15 mins away so I can drop in easily. We can see each other on my free weekends and over our wfh lunch breaks twice a week or so. It’s chilled. I didn’t get initial butterflies as much but am now feeling really warm towards him and a bit gooey. It’s been a slow burn but it’s really working for me. Not sure if it’s going to be a long term thing and he’s kind of said that too (he’s a widower and only about a year ago), he’s not rocked my world but is so genuine, so moral (would never do what man A has done), very emotionally supportive and the sex is good. Sometimes I’m left in doubt how much he likes me but lately he’s stepped that up and although he says less than man A when he does say it you know he really means it.

basically man A has now progressed leaving his partner and being honest about wanting to separate. He won’t be able to move out for some time and financially it’s going to be really difficult. He’s been talking about me and him as if it’s a given for the future even tho he knows I’m seeing man B.

the connection we had was/is amazing but even though it’s much less intense, what I have with man B is really nice and it’s working for me at the moment.

I worry that even though man A and I seem really suited maybe the intensity was just because of a ‘forbidden love’ type of thing. And he’s so led by his feelings I think I’d fear that his strong feelings for me could disappear like they did for his partner. (They have been together 20 yrs so not a short term thing). A also lives 50 mins away. His partner has MH issues and struggles with things a lot so I know she’ll always feature heavily in his/our life if we were together.

am feeling in a bit of a dilemma as to whether to break things off with B. But think I’d regret that too as he’s such a good egg and I feel so lucky to have met him. I just wonder if something is missing, but then it’s only been 3 months and still developing.

Sorry it’s long but would really appreciate outside perspective.

OP posts:
TammyJones · 25/01/2024 21:42

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 25/01/2024 21:16

Find C.

Man A is bad news and it's obvious what your future with him will be like - drama and heartbreak.
Man B is someone who you are setting with - the future with him looks - boring.

Onelifeonly · 25/01/2024 21:45

Man C but maybe not yet! A sounds exciting but tricky. B sounds worthy but dull.

Or string both along for a bit, but not being able to decide really suggests neither. (When you know, you know)

p1ppyL0ngstocking · 25/01/2024 22:19

So, just to clarify, you were the mistress to man A, then got tired of that and moved onto man B.

B is widowed and has been taking things slowly to make sure you're a good person/fit for him and you now consider yourself "official".

However, now man A is splitting up with his wife, you're considering dating both or them or neither of them?

Do you think that either of them would consider you a red flag if they knew the truth?

Duckingella · 25/01/2024 22:26

You'll never trust man A;he cheats and lies.

Bestlife18 · 25/01/2024 22:38

Honest feedback - I would walk away from them both. A sounds like a total nightmare waiting to happen but B sounds like a very similar situation to one I left in the summer last year. I had been in a very traumatic breakup with someone who turned out to be a total womaniser, liar and cheat. My version of your Mr B was very similar - safe, dependable, polar opposite but boy was he boring. I wasted 2 years thinking “oh he’s ok for now” but it was soooo dull, I have preferred being on my own and doing what I want, when I want with my friends and kids.

I should have listened to my gut instinct 2 years ago and not wasted all that time. I’d say goodbye to them both tbh.

Seaoftroubles · 25/01/2024 22:54

It sounds like you need to take a break from both if you aren't sure. If l've worked out the time scale correctly you'd only been separated for around 6 months yourself when you got involved with Man A, who was in fact still married. And by your own admission he was intense and love bomby, so not exactly a good prospect long term. Man B sounds better, but as a widower of a year is he really ready for a serious relationship?

maybejustonemoretime · 26/01/2024 04:56

Man A will leave his wife and you will be an incredible convenience and before you know it you'll either have yourself a cocklodger and be washing his undies, and slowly reality will hit you, you'll realise you've been love bombed and wonder how the hell you are on this position.
You might say now oh no he is going to get a house/ has money/ I'll never introduce him to my family or home etc but red flag love bombers are highly skilled at making you do stuff and blindsiding you, I have been there and will never get over the damage and guilt him and the bad choices it led to caused.

Either that or he will leave his wife and discover the thrill of hook ups and ego boosting on online dating and leave you for dust.

Sounds like you are going to hurt man B and you might want to reflect on that.

OkImListening · 26/01/2024 08:27

*Man A has now progressed leaving his partner and being honest about wanting to separate. He won’t be able to move out for some time and financially it’s going to be really difficult"

So he's going to be living with his wife for the foreseeable future? No, sorry, you've waited long enough. Cut all ties now and give it a proper go with Man B.

Amylou1984 · 26/01/2024 14:54

I am a single mum of a 13 year old boy, and have divorced for 5 years. I have been dating in the last 2 years, and I was seeing someone for just over a year which ended in October. I was chatting to someone else for the period of time I was seeing the other guy, although always put off meeting. I finally met with this person in November, and we had 5 dates from then until about 2/3 weeks ago. He is from another country and his ex wife is also from that country and has just sprung on him that she has a job opportunity in their country, he doesn’t know what is going to happen and she doesn’t know whether she is going to take it or not, but if she does he would not want to be away from his daughter. He has said he likes me to much to cut contact, and doesn’t want to stop seeing me, but probably shouldn’t make our relationship physical, but I don’t know whether to just cut contact completely?

Mitherations · 26/01/2024 15:03

basically man A has now progressed leaving his partner and being honest about wanting to separate. He won’t be able to move out for some time and financially it’s going to be really difficult. He’s been talking about me and him as if it’s a given for the future even tho he knows I’m seeing man B.

I"d hazard a guess that he hasn't ended his marriage at all, he's future faking and is trying to see if you'll be amenable to some more sex if he tells you that his marriage is over. Words are cheap.

They go out the way they come in. If you want to be with someone who is happy to cheat on his partner then A is your man. If you want someone with a bit more integrity then possibly B if seeing him makes you happy, and see how it progesses on a casual basis.

Gcsunnyside23 · 26/01/2024 15:34

Man A is a walking talking red flag. Buried with his wife, setting up a new situation for himself. He will be living in your house within a month if you.let him
Man b sounds like a better option but I think you should go with neither.
If man A is still able to turn your head and question things then youre not that into man B.
You're settling

MarshaMarshaMarshmellow · 26/01/2024 15:48

Gcsunnyside23 · 26/01/2024 15:34

Man A is a walking talking red flag. Buried with his wife, setting up a new situation for himself. He will be living in your house within a month if you.let him
Man b sounds like a better option but I think you should go with neither.
If man A is still able to turn your head and question things then youre not that into man B.
You're settling

Man B came about as a rebound, I think. She drew a line with Man A and went dating to get over him.

Seaoftroubles · 26/01/2024 15:50

@Amylou1984 You need to start your own thread as you've posted in the middle of one here.

Bernieee · 26/01/2024 15:53

i was taught that if you were struggling to decide what man to pick you should walk away from both. You should know the man you want.

Wafflethewonderdoggy · 26/01/2024 15:54

@MarshaMarshaMarshmellow yes that’s basically it. Although I should’ve drawn a firmer line with A and cut off contact completely but I didn’t although it’s been emotional support/friendship level.

I did start dating kind of to get over A and just accept that I needed to not hang about and get on with my life. Intended to keep it casual but now feel really lucky to have met B. Yes it hasn’t been ‘boom’ from day 1 like with A but maybe that’s healthy and normal? It’s been more of a grower.

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GingerIsBest · 26/01/2024 16:03

It's not Man A OR Man B. It worries me that when Man A is clearly lying, lovebombing, manipulating, cheating... the only thing that has stopped you going straight back to him is that you have Man B.

Do you really believe this: He won’t be able to move out for some time and financially it’s going to be really difficult.

Also, even if it IS true, what's that saying? "No one falls in love faster than a man with nowhere to live."

As for the whole, "my partner has mental health issues". Again, either this is a lie. OR, if it's not a lie, it's another reason why he shouldn't be considering a relationship with you.

Man A is a no.

As for Man B, that depends on lots of things but I'd say continue taking it slow and see where it goes.

beatrix1234 · 26/01/2024 16:11

Man A sounds exciting but has more red flags than a Commie parade, man b sounds right but boring. I would drop both men and go into the impossible mission of finding a man who is both exciting and makes you feel safe. Once you find that man tell me how you did it 🤣

Wafflethewonderdoggy · 26/01/2024 16:12

No @GingerIsBest it’s a good point. I’d have serious concerns about it anyway I think, but might be more willing to take it very slowly and see what happened.
and I don’t really see it as going ‘back’ to A as were never properly together. It got physical on one or two occasions many months ago now before I belatedly realised how wrong that was and put a stop to it but initially with the ‘let me know when you’re single’ thought. Then thought it would never happen. Then tried to move on, and now it has (almost) happened that he’s almost single.

I think taking advice I’ve read elsewhere on here, even if I was single and wanting to give it a go I’d have to say to him to let me know once he’s moved out got himself settled etc.
I was just struggling last night feeling horribly guilty for upsetting him and cutting off contact but I feel a bit better today.

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beatrix1234 · 26/01/2024 16:13

“my partner has mental health issues” = “I drove my partner insane”.

Bobbotgegrinch · 26/01/2024 16:26

Bloody hell I feel sorry for B.

You've got a good thing going with him, and you can't see it because you're hung up on a cheating scumbag.

You should dump B, you're obviously not fully invested in him and he doesn't deserve to be messed around. And then you should block A, because why the fuck do you want to be with someone who'll happily cheat on his wife?

And then maybe you should spend a bit of time single until you've worked out what you're actually looking for.

Cambsguy · 26/01/2024 23:13

Man B all the way.

I dont get all the boring tags - it just sounds like a good relationship. At this age - 40s/50s for me - it's not going to be super exciting. We have jobs, kids to worry about, plus most of us will have some form of baggage in crazy ex wives, cheating husbands, death and illness.

See how it goes with him.Sounds like a decent bloke

JodieFostersFurHood · 26/01/2024 23:24

@Wafflethewonderdoggy I was you. I finally ditched A and am now married to B. It was my best ever move and now I realise what an idiot I was with A. A is upset about losing his hold over you.

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