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Do I just do/say nothing?

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Bunny44 · 24/01/2024 23:54

Background: my sister had an awful relationship with her ex husband who she met young, married and had 2 daughters with. He cheated on her for years before she finally had enough and left but her self esteem was in tatters.

She met a younger, good looking guy a few years later. She was so terrified he'd leave her she was very controlling, going so far to stop female relatives apart from me and my mum visiting them. A few times they broke up because she was controlling. But we also noticed that he is very lazy and she does everything for him and also often he doesn't work and seems to just live off her.

18 months ago he left her for another woman from another country. My sister was in pieces and extremely upset. Anyway 6 months later he turns up again, declares he made a mistake and surprise proposes to my sister with flowers and a ring. She was delighted and took him back. We were cautiously supportive.

During the last year he's back to his odd jobs, living off my sister and seems to have made some financial decisions which have put them in dire straights.

Suddenly it comes out through gossip and then confirmation that my sister's partner fathered a child with the woman from another country and then abandoned her while pregnant. My sister knew this but kept it a secret from us. Apparently he is in contact with this other woman but my sister doesn't want him to meet his child and is restricting his access to the child, which I think he goes along with because he needs my sister financially.

Am I wrong to think this guy is a piece of dirt and my sister needs to realise this? I'm really worried about my neices.

But also it's wrong of my sister to be restricting his access to his child - if she stays with him he should be doing the right thing?

Do you think I should speak to her about either aspect or it's pointless?

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Ladyj84 · 25/01/2024 00:00

It's pointless it's between them. They shouldn't be together both have problems it seems.

Fucketyfecketyfoo · 25/01/2024 00:01

His wife in another country I suspect. How do you think you will stop your sister? She doesn’t want your help.

Guavafish1 · 25/01/2024 00:09

He probably sending his wife and child you're sisters money. Your sister is isolating him from his child and female friends/family.

The relationship sound very dysfunction and they would be better separated. Your sister needs to work on her self esteem.

Bunny44 · 25/01/2024 00:12

Fucketyfecketyfoo · 25/01/2024 00:01

His wife in another country I suspect. How do you think you will stop your sister? She doesn’t want your help.

My sister and I are very close and she does normally accept advice but she wants so badly for it to work out.

Fairly certain he didn't marry this other woman - the OW told mutual friends that he said he wanted to marry and have children with her, then decided he missed my sister and left her, despite knowing she was pregnant. If he does this to OW, it makes me worried about my sister. My sister and him are adamant that they are totally in love though.

I can just see it ending badly and don't want my sister to marry him giving the financial issues.

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Bunny44 · 25/01/2024 00:17

Guavafish1 · 25/01/2024 00:09

He probably sending his wife and child you're sisters money. Your sister is isolating him from his child and female friends/family.

The relationship sound very dysfunction and they would be better separated. Your sister needs to work on her self esteem.

With the control it got so bad that my sister essentially confiscated his phone and his mum contacted me saying she'd heard nothing from him for a month, she'd tried to contact my sister and she didn't reply either.

Turns out she was angry with his mum as she's been in contact with the OW and grandchild and posting social media pics of the baby. My sister definitely needs counselling doesn't she?

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Kwam31 · 25/01/2024 00:36

He's a piece of dirt?? what does that make your sister?
Imagine this was a man behaving how she is? alienating him from his friends and family and his child, she's a nasty piece of work.

FreyafromLondon · 25/01/2024 01:01

Your sister sounds like a fucking lunatic

Passingthethyme · 25/01/2024 01:10

I'd say something but keep it 'light', sometimes it's useful to get a relaoty check and if your family can't or won't do it, who will

Bunny44 · 25/01/2024 10:00

Passingthethyme · 25/01/2024 01:10

I'd say something but keep it 'light', sometimes it's useful to get a relaoty check and if your family can't or won't do it, who will

Well that's exactly what I'm thinking, if we don't say something who will?

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Bunny44 · 25/01/2024 10:06

I think they're both behaving really badly, but a big issue is the impact on my nieces, especially the financial side. Due to the financial problems they've already had to forego various things like giving up extra curricular activities and I believe they spent the eldest's university fund on a venture of his that didn't work out. My sister just agrees to whatever he wants to 'keep' him, in exchange for his privacy.

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TurtleCavalryIsSeriousShit · 25/01/2024 11:26

Oh my word! Your sister is crazy! Wth? Yes, he's a shit, but she is so so wrong!

Your poor nieces.

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