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Ex is really lonely and struggling :(

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Wondersense · 20/01/2024 20:57

I'm not sure what I'm looking for here, other than to hear from other women maybe who have been through something similar.

I left my ex 3 years ago.

When we first met, I was in my early 20s and we were both vulnerable, to some degree, and we supported each other. Before he was 30, both of his parents died, his mother committing suicide when he was in his mid 20s. He came from a broken family, with family rifts meaning he had no extended family he could rely on for emotional support from then on.

When we finally got a place of our own in a different part of the U.K, things went from bad to worse, in more than one way which would turn this post into several essays. One of them was that he became more introverted to the point of not wanting any kind of relationship with other people, but he never seemed to want to communicate at length with me either. Short walks around our neighbourhood were often spent with him not really contributing nor really listening either. He almost never wanted to just stay around chatting in a relaxed manner after mealtimes - if he did, he had to be doing something else at the same time, almost to justify doing this to himself, and then he would rush off back to his PC and computer games (which I often felt was the main love of his life, with me being a very comforting, occasionally entertaining side-show that revolved around that).

When we moved to our new town, I encouraged him to join a local hobby group to make fairly like-minded friends in the new area we had moved to. It's not a group you would just find anywhere, so I thought he might have taken the opportunity, but he never did. I suggested we have an allotment, to maybe meet local people and spend direct time together, have a project together. He wasn't interested.

After many years of his grumpiness, moodiness, and many things I haven't mentioned here as it would make the post too long, I left in my mid-30s, with no children.

I now still feel obligated towards him, and he was so low a few months after I left him that I called his local GP and booked an appointment as I was worried. We have stayed in contact mainly because I care about him and he has no one else (but I moved to a different part of the U.K so haven't seen him in person since I left, and neither do I want to do that). He has work colleagues who he has polite small-talk with on the rare occasion he makes a visit into the office, and the occasional hello from a neighbour or two, but that's it.

He really does seem very lonely, and I think he's missing the comforting structure of family and community, yet as a person he seems to have no interest in other people, seems to think they have nothing to offer him. He doesn't seem to want to understand that you have to make an effort to make connections - they won't just fall into your lap, and people get tired of chasing if they feel someone's just not interested. It's not that he's just depressed that I've left him - he's of course sad about that as he wanted to have children too, but the moodiness and and extreme introvert nature goes back years before that, and these traits are holding him back so much. It's just so sad. :(

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Aylestone · 20/01/2024 21:03

Why are you still dealing with his shit 3 years after you left him? He’s never going to change. He sounds like he likes being miserable and would rather wallow in his misery instead of actually getting a life. I suspect you’ve made it worse rather than better with your never ending support. I’m sure if he didn’t have you to use as a crutch all these years, he may have pulled his finger out and learned to help himself a little

RitzyMcFee · 20/01/2024 21:07

You can't fix him. Or rather make him in to someone he isn't.

He couldn't even be bothered to chat with you, his own girlfriend who he lived with so he's definitely not going to become a social butterfly now.

Perhaps he plays games with friends online.

these traits are holding him back so much.
From what?

sonjadog · 20/01/2024 21:08

Let go. He is who he is and this is how he wants to live his life. You do have to rescue him.

Luckydog7 · 20/01/2024 21:09

Unfortunately you can't live his life for him, you can't save him from himself you can only live the best life for yourself. The relevant phrase here is, don't set yourself on fire to keep someone else warm.

He didn't care that much about you while you were together and was clearly unable to change. If he is going to change he needs to be his own catalyst or what is the point. Perhaps he needs his low point, stop propping him up.

CadyEastman · 20/01/2024 21:13

It's his life and it's what he's chosen. You can't alter that for him and you can't persuade him to live in a different way.

Thirdsummerofourdiscontent · 20/01/2024 21:17

Stop trying to fix him, he doesn’t seem to want it. Maybe if you leave him be he will decide to come out of his shell more with others.

SkaneTos · 20/01/2024 21:35

@Wondersense You seem like a very kind-hearted person. You have done a lot for your ex-partner.
I understand that it must be hard to see him still struggling.

Jonisaysitbest · 21/01/2024 09:56

Wow, people on here are so harsh sometimes!
I think you are a very kind-hearted person to still care about your ex and to keep in touch with him.
The pp are right in saying that you can't fix him but if it isn't a drain on you I think just keeping in touch and being friendly is a kind thing to do.
Accept that you can't change him or his choices but you can simply offer friendship with the odd friendly text or email.
I think if you cut off contact completely it will bother you and play on your mind.

Wondersense · 21/01/2024 10:45

Thank you @SkaneTos

@Jonisaysitbest . Yes, I think more texting rather than phonecalls is the way to go. I feel he's conflicted. Part of him wants the contact but part of him doesn't (but he doesn't want to have to be the one to do that). Yet, when I have lessened contact previously, he doesn't like that either, judging by he demeanour and tone.

Although I don't miss living with him, I'm ok without his company and don't want to go back to the relationship, he was my world for 12 years and despite the fact I am angry with him to a degree, and lost trust in him, I think I will always feel that connection, so it's difficult to just stop caring & cut him off. He's also bought his first home by himself and has had to fix and manage multiple issues he didn't fully appreciate when he bought it, even thought he got a survey done. He's had bad luck with local contractors, and is struggling so much because he doesn't have his anti-depressant, his sunshine there any more to get things sorted, try new things, and to soothe him as much as I used to. He's mostly alone in his own juices now.

Although I don't quite agree with some posters, I do understand why they are frustrated, and yes, I don't think he wants help so I need to be more self-disciplined and mindful of how much more I give, although it is difficult for me not to. Although he really has had bad luck with his house, and it's totally understandable why he feels so lost and helpless (he is definitely not a practical/handyman type, and has no family to help), he does have a frustrating quality which predates the house issue. In the past I've said to him a few times that he's like a little boy who is standing in a big puddle, crying because his feet are cold & wet, but when you reach out your hand to him, ready to help him take a step out of it, he sulkily swipes your hand away, preferring to remain in his puddle and cry. It's painful to witness this suffering in a person.

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CuppaTea23 · 21/01/2024 10:52

I recognise this so much, although I'm still living with mine, in the process of separating. It's so hard though as he says how isolated he is, and that's part of the problem? But I can't keep feeling that gap and being resented for it. He talks about suicide a lot, I think as a way of showing me how much pain he's in (been years of this, not due to separation plans) and it's just horrible. People who haven't known it find it hard to comprehend, but I think as someone else said that you've enabled it, that sense that I've enabled it just makes me feel even more responsible. So this isn't really advice, just I see you, and be glad you're not living with all of that any more. Sounds like you're doing what you can within your personal values, good for you.

C00k · 21/01/2024 10:54

Stop wasting more of your life handwringing over this man, he’s not your problem. Neither are his thoughts, moods, contractors, appointments, chats with his colleagues. There is no reason for you to still be in contact with him.

Women are NOT emotional support centres or counsellors for blokes.
Have you done work on yourself to ensure any future boyfriend is of high standard?

Never allow yourself to be used as an emotional dumping ground, a relationship is meant to be fun, and enhance your life. That’s the entire point.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 21/01/2024 17:06

is struggling so much because he doesn't have his anti-depressant, his sunshine there any more to get things sorted, try new things, and to soothe him as much as I used to

If they're your words, you need to start therapy, as that's a completely co-dependent and toxic way to view a relationship.

And if they are his (unlikely, but always a slight possibility), run the fuck away from such pathetic guilt tripping.

Wondersense · 23/01/2024 15:16

@NeverDropYourMooncup - they are my words and is how I increasingly felt in the last few years. That's part of the reason why I left. It was tiring and frustrating.

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