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Covert narcissist - what helped you finally disengage?

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MsMarch · 15/01/2024 10:49

I don't think there's much I can do here but am interested in other people's experience. A friend was in a longterm, terrible relationship with an emotionally abusive and controlling man who I'm pretty sure is a covert narcissist (disclaimer - I'm not an expert etc, but it seems to fit).

It's all very long but she EVENTUALLY broke up with him, but it was messy and hard. His behaviour was appalling - never quite got violent but was close. He's He's unreliable and flakey and continued to find ways to abuse/control her for a long time after they broke up, even after he moved out.

He's now homeless and jobless and she felt obligated to let him move back in while he got himself sorted. Needless to say, he has not so much as applied for a job - he barely gets out of bed, doesn't spend time with the DC and of course, is not engaging with any of the help and solutions she has tried to support him with.

But somehow, she still thinks he will change. Her latest is that she's given him a final deadline to move out and he will definitely do it by then. But we all know he won't. Just like we've been right, in advance, about every other terrible thing he 's done that has, every single time, blindsided her and come totally out of the blue for her. I have dozens of examples.

If you've been in a situation like this, was there anything anyone said or did that finally made the scales fall from your eyes? I understand she wants to believe things will be better, but what will make her finally see the world as it is, vs the way she wants it? Is there ANYTHING anyone can say/do to stop her being constantly surprised and disappointed? Especially as in the meantime, she's losing friends and seems to be falling out with her family too.

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forrestgreen · 15/01/2024 11:18

The only thing I did for my mum was saying that I believe he's bad for her, that she's in an appalling situation, and that I can't take it any longer for her. I see that she's not ready to hear- so until then I don't want to hear about it, at all.

It took her about a week realising that it was so bad that her daughter couldn't take it. For her to ask for help.

MsMarch · 15/01/2024 12:15

That's not working in this instance. I know her relationship with her family is strained - she understands why they struggle with him (mostly to do with the almost-violence and very bad behaviour, that they experienced directly as well as through her) but she also feels like she is doing what she has to do.

As friends, we largely just don't talk about it anymore. Which is also bad as I know that sometimes she could really do with a bit of a rant. But it's very hard to discuss without sounding like I'm saying, "I told you so" and there have been endless conversations where she's asked for advice, but it's not the advice she wants. Which is fine - she can take whatever advice she wants to take - but it does make it very hard to revisit the conversation!

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