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Can someone please tell me when this will start to get easier

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Sadgirl101 · 11/01/2024 16:46

STBexDH and I separated before Christmas, his decision. Things are amicable, and due to loads of reasons that I can't go into as they would be hugely outing, we need to stay living together for the next couple of years until I can move out. We have 2 very young DCs. Things are amicable, its a big house, I dont actually think that part is going to cause us huge issues but I'm including it because I feel like it's probably a key factor in how I'm feeling.

I feel broken. Absolutely shattered. I'm absolutely grieving the relationship, the future I though we/the kids would have. Sometimes I feel really sad, sometimes I feel really angry about the whole thing. I knew neither of us were in a great place but I genuinely thought we were just in the 'roommate' phase of life with 2 small kids, lack of sleep, nursery fees meaning things were tight, etc etc and that things would improve as they got older. He obviously felt differently, and I feel cross that in the 7 months he claims he's been considering ending the marriage he didn't accurately convey how he was feeling and the severity of the sitauation to me other than 'I'm not happy' as I feel like I've been robbed of the chance for us to try and fix things.

Initially I thought I was dealing with it all really well but I think the feelings are starting to catch up with me. He's already started talking to another woman he knows who is much younger than me (and him). I obviously wasn't meant to know, and genuinely found out by accident as he left his smart watch on a worktop that I happened to be working at when it flashed up with a message and without even meaning to I just instinctively looked. We've had a talk about it and he's answered a lot of personal questions that I had and so far it's genuinely just talking/texting and I'm certain there was no affair/overlap, but I do suspect that the feelings of attraction he had for her/others probably cemented that he didn't feel like that about me anymore. I know it's just different coping mechanisms, our lack of sex life was a huge issue in our relationship as his libido was much higher than mine, she's obviously paying him attention and he enjoys that/it's a confidence boost, I really dont think either of them see it as a long term serious thing, not that it really matters.

I just feel like I've given him the best of me, my 20s, sacrificed my body to carry his kids and now I'm being traded in. I know thats probably not actually fair, he was always reassuring me that my insecurities were my own and not how he felt and that this change has come about from the lack of intimacy and not my appearance (and he's subsequently acknowledged that he's not blameless in all of this).

Sorry, I'm rambling now. When I think about everything it's just so painful, like I feel physical pain in my chest/heart. I know in making the decision he's further down the moving on line than I am, but I'm hoping for some stories/reassurance that this isn't my life forever, and that eventually I'll feel like me, or at the very least happy again, because I really cant see it ever improving right now and I don't know that I can feel like this for the rest of my life.

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Watchkeys · 11/01/2024 17:11

I just feel like I've given him the best of me, my 20s, sacrificed my body to carry his kids and now I'm being traded in. I know thats probably not actually fair, he was always reassuring me that my insecurities were my own and not how he felt

You're saying that your feelings aren't fair to him. Why? Why are you relating your post break-up feelings to him at all? Why would they need to be fair to him? He has nothing to do with them.

This is about how you feel about you. What he's done and is doing isn't about him, as far as you're concerned; it's about how you feel feel about you. Focus on this. If you felt that you were a strong, confident person, you wouldn't feel that the 'best of you' was in the past... it's all to come. You wouldn't feel you'd 'sacrificed your body to carry his kids'... you'd be proud to have the body that gave birth to your kids. You wouldn't feel you'd been 'traded in'... you'd feel that this relationship was over, and you were moving on into your future.

Stop relating your feelings about yourself to him. Look towards yourself; where do these feelings come from?

Sadgirl101 · 11/01/2024 20:00

Watchkeys · 11/01/2024 17:11

I just feel like I've given him the best of me, my 20s, sacrificed my body to carry his kids and now I'm being traded in. I know thats probably not actually fair, he was always reassuring me that my insecurities were my own and not how he felt

You're saying that your feelings aren't fair to him. Why? Why are you relating your post break-up feelings to him at all? Why would they need to be fair to him? He has nothing to do with them.

This is about how you feel about you. What he's done and is doing isn't about him, as far as you're concerned; it's about how you feel feel about you. Focus on this. If you felt that you were a strong, confident person, you wouldn't feel that the 'best of you' was in the past... it's all to come. You wouldn't feel you'd 'sacrificed your body to carry his kids'... you'd be proud to have the body that gave birth to your kids. You wouldn't feel you'd been 'traded in'... you'd feel that this relationship was over, and you were moving on into your future.

Stop relating your feelings about yourself to him. Look towards yourself; where do these feelings come from?

It's a valid point about needing to separate my feelings from him. I think the feelings are coming from a sense of loss, rejection, the realisation that the person who stood up in front of our family and friends and promised to be with me forever would rather be on his own or chatting up someone else than be with me. It's very much a 'me' problem I guess but this has shattered what little self confidence I had left and I don't know how to get it back

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Jonisaysitbest · 11/01/2024 20:13

OP don't feel bad for feeling bad. Personally, I think it's pretty shit of your husband to to be talking to women (if it is just talking...) this early on. No wonder you feel like crap!
I hope he is pulling his weight as far as your young children are concerned. He seems to have the head space and the time to consider dating - I wonder if you do?
It's perfectly natural for you to be grieving your relationship and to feel broken, shattered etc.
Don't be gaslit into thinking this makes you somehow lesser and that you should be looking at your personality or whatever to see "why you feel this way". What utter bollocks.
You married this man thinking it would be forever and that he would stand by you no matter what and here you are with young kids and all that that brings with it and he is jumping ship - because he didn't get enough attention or enough sex?

Whatever you do make sure you get a fair deal in the divorce and make sure he puts in a fair amount of parenting.

Jonisaysitbest · 11/01/2024 20:16

PS It will start to feel better with time but I think the living together thing is going to be hard if your husband is going to start dating straight away.

If he is going to do that I would be considering if there is any way you can live separately.

gamerchick · 11/01/2024 20:22

I'm assuming the childcare while going on dates works both ways then?

This living together isnt going to work unless you can split the house into a space you won't have to see each other.

Tittiesthattouchmytors · 11/01/2024 20:31

I found myself in this situation minus the kids. I was grieving with rose tinted spec all I thought I had lost. But the truth was, he wasn’t good enough because he walked. He wasn’t the man I thought he was because he walked. You regret losing what you thought you had, notwhatGet rid of the rose tinted specs as soon as you can and you will cope better.
i eventually met a man 10 times better!

Sadgirl101 · 11/01/2024 20:35

Jonisaysitbest · 11/01/2024 20:13

OP don't feel bad for feeling bad. Personally, I think it's pretty shit of your husband to to be talking to women (if it is just talking...) this early on. No wonder you feel like crap!
I hope he is pulling his weight as far as your young children are concerned. He seems to have the head space and the time to consider dating - I wonder if you do?
It's perfectly natural for you to be grieving your relationship and to feel broken, shattered etc.
Don't be gaslit into thinking this makes you somehow lesser and that you should be looking at your personality or whatever to see "why you feel this way". What utter bollocks.
You married this man thinking it would be forever and that he would stand by you no matter what and here you are with young kids and all that that brings with it and he is jumping ship - because he didn't get enough attention or enough sex?

Whatever you do make sure you get a fair deal in the divorce and make sure he puts in a fair amount of parenting.

Thank you. He is doing his share of child rearing (more so than he did before!!) I don't think I'd call it dating as such, if it develops into anything I expect it will be more of a FWB arrangement but I guess I could be wrong. Yes I absolutely have the time to date if I wanted (and exDH actually suggested yesterday it might make me feel better but I wonder if that's his guilty conscience thinking it would make him feel better!) But I don't feel like I can bring myself to do it at the moment.

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Sadgirl101 · 11/01/2024 20:37

gamerchick · 11/01/2024 20:22

I'm assuming the childcare while going on dates works both ways then?

This living together isnt going to work unless you can split the house into a space you won't have to see each other.

That's the theory, he's actively suggesting I get out there and that it might give me a confidence boost but I can't think of anything worse at the moment so I'm trying to fill my child free evenings with friends, and I've started a new fitness class . Without being too outing about the house/living arrangements it's pretty separate so I don't see much of him at all

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Jonisaysitbest · 11/01/2024 20:43

Glad to hear he is stepping up as he should. Make sure that continues even if he starts a relationship that is more than FWB.

I wouldn't jump into dating if I were you. Give yourself time to grieve the relationship. Maybe counselling would be a good idea if you can afford it?

Do you have a good support network of friends? If you do concentrate on spending time with them and plan some things to look forward to.

Spend time thinking about what you enjoy doing and find time for it.

Investing in friends and social life and working towards living separately will be more beneficial than getting involved with another man at this stage.

It's a tough road ahead and it's very sad when a marriage ends, even if you both think it's the right thing to do. But you will get through it.

The most important thing though is to both put your children first. If you haven't already, have a conversation with your STBX about new partners, the children and boundaries there - make sure you are on the same page with that.

Sadgirl101 · 11/01/2024 20:53

Jonisaysitbest · 11/01/2024 20:43

Glad to hear he is stepping up as he should. Make sure that continues even if he starts a relationship that is more than FWB.

I wouldn't jump into dating if I were you. Give yourself time to grieve the relationship. Maybe counselling would be a good idea if you can afford it?

Do you have a good support network of friends? If you do concentrate on spending time with them and plan some things to look forward to.

Spend time thinking about what you enjoy doing and find time for it.

Investing in friends and social life and working towards living separately will be more beneficial than getting involved with another man at this stage.

It's a tough road ahead and it's very sad when a marriage ends, even if you both think it's the right thing to do. But you will get through it.

The most important thing though is to both put your children first. If you haven't already, have a conversation with your STBX about new partners, the children and boundaries there - make sure you are on the same page with that.

I can't afford counselling but I have self referred this evening to our NHS offering and because I tick a few of the priority boxes I think I'll be expedited but I don't know how long it'll take, or how useful it'll be! Yes my friends have been amazing so that's really helpful. I think you're right I need to keep doing what I'm doing and making time to find me and what makes me happy before I try and involve anyone else.

Yes, that was one of the first conversations we had and we've both agreed that children will remain unaware of any new partners while we're still under the same roof as it'll be too confusing for them and even beyond that until we're confident it's something long term and serious so we're on the same page there

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SuperGreens · 11/01/2024 21:17

I know you say its outing but the circumstances around your living and financial situation are really the only things that matter in divorce at the end of the day. Why are you living in a big house but have no money even for counselling? Have you been to see a lawyer yet? Frankly I think what he is doing is gross. You have two tiny children and hes sexting girls? Yuck, he sounds like a total creep. What will make you feel better is seeing a future for you and your children without him, and that depends on money. So if you can ask for help on here around that its a good start, or find the money for legal help. He is not your friend.

AliciaTried · 11/01/2024 21:21

He is not your friend

Obvs don't know your circumstances but I am very sceptical of all these supposed amicable arrangements. Do they help you heal and move on? Or do they help him?

Sadgirl101 · 11/01/2024 21:33

SuperGreens · 11/01/2024 21:17

I know you say its outing but the circumstances around your living and financial situation are really the only things that matter in divorce at the end of the day. Why are you living in a big house but have no money even for counselling? Have you been to see a lawyer yet? Frankly I think what he is doing is gross. You have two tiny children and hes sexting girls? Yuck, he sounds like a total creep. What will make you feel better is seeing a future for you and your children without him, and that depends on money. So if you can ask for help on here around that its a good start, or find the money for legal help. He is not your friend.

Without trying to be outing we're in tied accomodation so his take home salary is reduced as a result. I also made career/financial decisions last year that can't now be easily reversed without financial penalty until I see it through which will take another couple of years. There are no assets or savings and my now reduced income isn't enough for me to rent somewhere on my own, and because of his salary/living arrangements there isn't spare funds to be spending on rent either. The only feasible option would be to leave him with full custody of the kids and move out into a house share/as a lodger and I'm obviously keen not to give up my children. I have a lawyer, if I wasn't paying them I could afford the counselling but I've had to prioritise the legal help over private mental health support

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YesThatsATurdOnTheRug · 11/01/2024 21:42

I am so sorry OP. That is excruciating. You're being forced to watch the man you love falling for someone else right in front of you, that is so utterly painful. He should have more respect than to be moving on, you married each other for Christ sake. Those words carry responsibility. Separating is one thing but to actively move on so fast when you're stuck under the same roof, that feels cruel.

Jonisaysitbest · 11/01/2024 22:30

I agree with the pp, I think your stbx is being vile quite frankly.
Why can't he wait until you both have a place of your own before he rushes into a new relationship?
And I don't for one minute believe it will be a casual FWB situation either.
It's just disrespectful to you. You are both still married and you have young children. He needs to slow down and think about what he's doing.
I would find it hard to be "amicable" with a man like that.

2024anotheryear · 11/01/2024 23:30

'Why can't he wait until you both have a place of your own before he rushes into a new relationship'

Because he's thinking like an entitled shallow dick with his dick. Another man that thinks the grass is greener.

OP, I very much hope you are not continuing to act as housekeeper, cook and domestic for him? If so, just stop. He needs to feel the full weight and responsibilities of single life.

As for you OP, I'd bloody fake it until I made it. I'd be prioritising myself - getting hair, nails done - what ever makes you feel better. I'd be getting dolled up and going out in my best clobber, even if only to the cinema on my own. I would not give him the satisfaction of knowing where or whom I was with.

These men are disgusting trading in a loyal loving partner for mere sex. If his drive was higher, he should have communicated that to you quite clearly and at least explored all the options with you. Several years down the line, no doubt he will do same to the woman. It is his flaw and nothing you have done wrong.

Come on OP, find your anger, do not be so accommodating. Chin up. X

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