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Building better relationships court ordered course.

43 replies

TishaMelissa · 10/01/2024 19:32

Has anyones ex been court ordered to do this course, did they complete it? What was the outcome?

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AzureUser · 04/07/2024 20:18

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 10/01/2024 22:10

I am an experienced facilitator for this programme. Feel free to message me if you have any specific questions about the programme.

Could you give me more information on this course please as my ex partner has just been made to do this course by the crown court

Rob3043 · 24/08/2024 20:35

I've just completed it it. It's an extremely basic course that could be completed by a dyslexic primary school student. I learned nothing and it will be of no use to me. I still completed it "to a high standard" I was the last group to do it as they won't be running it any more due to being in effective.

Bloodystressed1 · 25/08/2024 08:19

@Rob3043 i hope you are being honest with the probation service about what you have taken away from this programme so that they can accurately assess your risk to current/future partners. If you do want to address your issues with abusive behaviour towards partners, I know Barnados run a perpetrators programme and Respect offer advice for perpetrators who genuinely do want to change their behaviour.

Bridgertonned · 25/08/2024 10:03

The subject matter of BBR isn't intended to be complicated, it would be daft if it was. The difficult part of the course is meant to be the self reflection.

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 05/09/2024 14:27

Rob3043 · 24/08/2024 20:35

I've just completed it it. It's an extremely basic course that could be completed by a dyslexic primary school student. I learned nothing and it will be of no use to me. I still completed it "to a high standard" I was the last group to do it as they won't be running it any more due to being in effective.

It’s meant to be accessible for everyone. Concerning that you took nothing from it but I’m sure your facilitators were able to see that and it was suitably reflected in your report and their communication with your PO.

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 05/09/2024 14:28

AzureUser · 04/07/2024 20:18

Could you give me more information on this course please as my ex partner has just been made to do this course by the crown court

Sorry! Only just seen this. Did you still want information about the programme?

Justwantpeace25 · 05/02/2025 08:01

Hi my partner started doing this course in October to be honest with you it's making his behaviour worse I'm getting called horrible names on a daily basic threaten most days just plan nasty trying to make me lose contact with my older children threatening to get my daughter sacked from her job if I don't do what he wants if we not together he wants to be on the camera all day and night so i cant get on my cleaning daily things while im going a toilet having a bath if i go to shops trys to keep up all night when he knows i have to wake up at 6am if im asleep and dont answer on phone he will go on dating apps say hes meeting escorts im physical and emotionally drained he has knock my confidence and i feel like i have no life left in me is there any other help he can get on top of this this bbr course is not working

Justwantpeace25 · 05/02/2025 08:04

Yes

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 05/02/2025 17:10

Justwantpeace25 · 05/02/2025 08:01

Hi my partner started doing this course in October to be honest with you it's making his behaviour worse I'm getting called horrible names on a daily basic threaten most days just plan nasty trying to make me lose contact with my older children threatening to get my daughter sacked from her job if I don't do what he wants if we not together he wants to be on the camera all day and night so i cant get on my cleaning daily things while im going a toilet having a bath if i go to shops trys to keep up all night when he knows i have to wake up at 6am if im asleep and dont answer on phone he will go on dating apps say hes meeting escorts im physical and emotionally drained he has knock my confidence and i feel like i have no life left in me is there any other help he can get on top of this this bbr course is not working

You should have been offered support from the Probation service as part of his court order. Make sure you share this with them.

Justwantpeace25 · 05/02/2025 23:19

I wasn't his partner he had just came out of prison I'm only finding this now

Spooky2000 · 06/02/2025 01:02

TishaMelissa · 10/01/2024 19:38

Abusive ex has been recommended by an expert to do it. Just waiting for our final hearing.

I was just wondering if this is similar to the DAPP and he has to do the suitability assessment etc.

He does, yes. It sounds like a court probation officer has assessed him for a pre sentence report, and this is one of their recommendations. IME however, there is certain criteria that the defendant has to meet including an OGRS score (assessing whether he'll reoffend and by what %)

When he has the BBR induction, the course instructor will look for signs of accountability and/or remorse. If there's none, and/or the OGRS score isn't high enough, then he may not meet the course criteria. He's then referred back to his probation officer who will have to apply to court to have the order varied, or do a slightly different course on a 1-1 basis.

BBR is now obsolete and replaced with building choices courses which I'm told have been more effective.

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 06/02/2025 04:36

Justwantpeace25 · 05/02/2025 23:19

I wasn't his partner he had just came out of prison I'm only finding this now

You are still entitled to the help if you want it. I would say he has not disclosed your existence to his probation officer (something he is required to do).

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 06/02/2025 04:38

Spooky2000 · 06/02/2025 01:02

He does, yes. It sounds like a court probation officer has assessed him for a pre sentence report, and this is one of their recommendations. IME however, there is certain criteria that the defendant has to meet including an OGRS score (assessing whether he'll reoffend and by what %)

When he has the BBR induction, the course instructor will look for signs of accountability and/or remorse. If there's none, and/or the OGRS score isn't high enough, then he may not meet the course criteria. He's then referred back to his probation officer who will have to apply to court to have the order varied, or do a slightly different course on a 1-1 basis.

BBR is now obsolete and replaced with building choices courses which I'm told have been more effective.

Edited

All of this is accurate.

The new programme is being rolled out though so there will still be people on probation completing the current programmes.

BellissimoGecko · 06/02/2025 05:17

Justwantpeace25 · 05/02/2025 08:01

Hi my partner started doing this course in October to be honest with you it's making his behaviour worse I'm getting called horrible names on a daily basic threaten most days just plan nasty trying to make me lose contact with my older children threatening to get my daughter sacked from her job if I don't do what he wants if we not together he wants to be on the camera all day and night so i cant get on my cleaning daily things while im going a toilet having a bath if i go to shops trys to keep up all night when he knows i have to wake up at 6am if im asleep and dont answer on phone he will go on dating apps say hes meeting escorts im physical and emotionally drained he has knock my confidence and i feel like i have no life left in me is there any other help he can get on top of this this bbr course is not working

All the advice you were given on your thread was to leave him. He's a nasty, abusive man. Why would you stay with him?

Glorybox2025 · 06/02/2025 05:22

Justwantpeace25 · 05/02/2025 23:19

I wasn't his partner he had just came out of prison I'm only finding this now

Why are you still with him?

Justwantpeace25 · 06/02/2025 08:12

We been together over a year I can't just leave I've tried if I block him he turns up or messages my daughter.

sinon · 06/02/2025 20:25

Justwantpeace25 · 06/02/2025 08:12

We been together over a year I can't just leave I've tried if I block him he turns up or messages my daughter.

Call the police.
Then call woman's aid.
You are in danger and so is your daughter.

Spooky2000 · 08/02/2025 13:45

Justwantpeace25 · 06/02/2025 08:12

We been together over a year I can't just leave I've tried if I block him he turns up or messages my daughter.

If he's already been sentenced, then contact a local probation office in your area. They'll do a name and DOB check and give you his probation officer details and s/he will support you.

If he's not been sentenced as yet, contact the court where he's being sentenced via email and say what's been going on and ask the PSR writer is made aware of his continuing offending behaviour. This is then reported in court.

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