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Shall I dump him

38 replies

lemonadecar · 27/12/2023 21:59

Basically I’m divorced with kids, had my bf for a year and a half. He has kids too and lives about an hour away. It’s been nice and I really fell for him. His identity was he’d been cheated on and left, and that’d happened in previous relationships too. He gave a big speech about how he didn’t like cheating and never had etc.

Except. Since the beginning he’s been constantly texting this woman who he had a little fling with before me. He really wanted her but couldn’t move it forward for some reason. But she still keeps him on a thread and he still jumps for her. I can just feel she’s always in things. I lost it early on about this and now he never mentions her.

If I were to broach it now he’d get cross and say I’m jealous. I just feel like all my trust is gone and I hate it, why would he keep doing it. It’s disrespectful.

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lemonadecar · 27/12/2023 22:00

It’s just how long it’s been going on that is the problem. I feel like why does he need her. But he says it’s a ‘friend’

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OnlyBoobsandBabies · 27/12/2023 22:01

I think you know the answer but don't want to admit it and I feel for you 😞

Do the right thing for yourself and dump his ass because he shouldn't be constantly contacting someone he had a fling with. Or he might still be seeing her.

Don't waste your time and love for a waste of space like that.

Tilllly · 27/12/2023 22:03

Agree with @OnlyBoobsandBabies

It's like you're his reserve and if this OW said yes, he'd be gone

samestyle · 27/12/2023 22:03

Yes of course you should dump him! He's messaging a previous fling who he hopes to still win over, never let yourself be in competition with someone else, be no1 or not at all!
I think he's telling lies about being cheated on, I'd take that as a pinch of salt, I expect he was the cheater if this is how he's behaving towards you.

MILTOBE · 27/12/2023 22:08

In the bin!

You'll probably find his exes have a completely different view as to why their relationships ended.

DriftingDora · 27/12/2023 22:11

Is the Pope Catholic? Raise your standards.

WolvesDiscoandBoogaloo · 27/12/2023 22:13

I'm a big believer in not minding friends of the opposite sex, even exes if the relationship ended amicably.

But this - no, I don't like the sound of it. He sounds way too emotionally invested in her for comfort.

I'm also suspicious of anyone who needs to go on about how they won't cheat excessively.

If you don't trust your partner, you're not going to be happy. I recommend new year, new start on this one.

lemonadecar · 27/12/2023 22:28

Yeah. I don’t mind opposite sex friends either. It’s just the way it’s piecing together I’m unsettled by.

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lemonadecar · 28/12/2023 10:26

It’s also how it makes me feel — like I’m jealous and controlling even though I’m not

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MorphandMindy · 28/12/2023 10:31

It's emotional cheating - like he’s got one foot out the door and you can never feel comfortable and secure in your relationship with him. You can't commit to someone who's keeping their options open.

It's not a reflection on his "friendship" really, but it feels like this relationship requires full commitment but only from you, and you're not comfortable with the one-sidedness.

Olika · 28/12/2023 10:31

What @OnlyBoobsandBabies said.

pictoosh · 28/12/2023 10:38

Your head will tell you all sorts, your heart will lead you down the garden path...but your instinct is straightforward.

You sense you're his second choice. I'm so sorry.

Purplecatshopaholic · 28/12/2023 10:47

In answer to your question - yes! You are his second choice and you know it really. Minute she snaps her fingers, he’s off. You are worth more op. Move on before your self esteem takes an even greater hit.

Bookworm1111 · 28/12/2023 10:49

Ask him outright – 'If X decided she wanted to make a go of things and was ready for a relationship with you, where would that leave us?' His reaction will tell you all you need to know.

lemonadecar · 28/12/2023 10:53

I did. He said no but I didn’t believe him.

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AgathaX · 28/12/2023 10:56

You say he doesn't mention her any more, how do you know about the messaging?

Easipeelerie · 28/12/2023 11:01

People who go on about things they hate are very likely doing that thing. Normal people who aren’t cheats don’t rant about it.
He sounds like an idiot. Get rid.

Sladurche · 28/12/2023 11:05

I'm old and cantankerous, with the hide of a rhino and have been though narcissistic behaviour and been burned by it more than once and now recognise it on sight.

Red flags and alarms are going off in my head when I hear what you describe. Your feelings are valid. Your jealousy is justified. Trust your instincts.

If he loves you and is committed to you he will care deeply about how you feel and how his behaviour makes you feel and want to change.

If the fling truly didn't mean that much to him it would be a no-brainer to prioritise you and stop the texting. Why does he feel the need to keep texting her, to the point where he knows it's hurting you but still does it?

Because you're being emotionally manipulated and controlled and set up for his cheating later.

Maybe he won't with this woman (because it doesn't sound like she's up for it), but with another at some point and I am willing to bet good money on the fact that this is what he's done in previous relationships as well.

He's afraid of being alone so he will stick in a relationship until he finds the next best thing.

Anyone who very deliberately tells you that "they hate cheating" is setting you up. When you suspect or find him cheating he will entirely blame you for it. He'll say you're paranoid and suspicious. He'll say you "drove him to it". He is laying the groundwork for it in your head now.

"It’s also how it makes me feel — like I’m jealous and controlling even though I’m not" - be reassured that you're not, but that's the way he wants you to feel so that he can blame you for what he's doing. He is deliberately making you feel that way so he can keep you under control.

Darling, when someone reveals who they truly are believe them the first time. He sounds very much like a narcissist. You deserve better than that. In fact, I'd run a mile. You're not mourning him or afraid of losing him. You're afraid of being alone and mourning who you want him to be, who you thought he was.

mumda · 28/12/2023 11:14

lemonadecar · 28/12/2023 10:53

I did. He said no but I didn’t believe him.

You can dump him for any reason you like.

You do not need his permission to dump him or an.approved reason.

'It's me not you' is something that used to be a cliché.

ANightmareBeforeChristmas · 28/12/2023 11:15

His identity was he’d been cheated on and left, and that’d happened in previous relationships too. He gave a big speech about how he didn’t like cheating and never had etc.

Massive red flag for him to make a huge thing of this.

SamphiretheTervosaurReturneth · 28/12/2023 11:18

Then it doesn't really matter what he is or isn't doing. This relationship isn't working for you, or isn't making you feel good.

So yes, if you don't like who the relationship makes you feel like end it. Why not?

burntbagel · 28/12/2023 11:20

I’ve had a partner messaging their exes and meeting as ‘friends’ then lying about it
it is horrible and truly damaged our relationship
Id ask for his total investment or be out of there

lemonadecar · 28/12/2023 11:21

What happened @burntbagel? was he sleeping with them? What do you think he was doing?

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lemonadecar · 28/12/2023 11:27

@Sladurche thank you. I had just come out of a long relationship with an abusive narcissist before this so it is odd to me that I fell into it— he seemed the opposite. But I fear you are right. It doesn’t even feel like he necessarily loves this other lady, just needs the setup of my jealousy, his ‘friendships’ and the discordant projection of himself as virtuous figure. Yep, it’s all in there isn’t it.

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Sladurche · 28/12/2023 11:56

I'm heartily sorry to hear what you've been through. Trust me, you sense that it's wrong because you've seen it before. It's such a shame that you've had to realise after 18 months of being with him. I do think that people like us (nice people who like to to see the best in and please others) attract narcissists. It is all in there. You're not to blame, though. You're not naïve or trusting or at fault. It's his fault. Don't beat yourself up- there is nothing wrong with you.