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Isanyonereallyanonymous · 18/12/2023 13:01

This is going to be long, very long, sorry.

Met a guy via OLD in August.
Hit it off from the get go, talked for maybe 2-3 weeks before we went on a date and it’s all gone from there.
On a superficial level I love spending time with him, how easy he is to talk to, the physical side is good.

But he had a female friend that after I started seeing him, he started seeing every week on the night that I worked. They’ve known each other via online chat room for about 2-3 years and she helped him through his long term relationship breakup so I think he feels a bit indebted to her.
They’d tried dating earlier on in the year but it hadn’t worked, she admitted she still had feelings but didn’t want to lose him as a friend so they carried on seeing each other.
Something about it and his insistence on seeing her and how uncomfortable he was telling me about the first time he was going out with her gave me a nasty gut feeling.
They’d do things like he’d go and pick her up from her house (she doesn’t drive), take her to his to watch a film then he’d drive her back. Just seems a bit odd, why wouldn’t you watch the film at her house. Or just go for a drink somewhere?
She’d push to go on what were essentially dates too.

Anyway, this all came to a head and he said he felt it was a complex friendship but not a healthy one and so was going to block her. I didn’t ask him to do this btw. So far as I’m aware he’s not seen or spoken to her since.

I am not a jealous type and think friendships should be encouraged but it was his attitude to this one that felt off.

He’s explaining it as not interested in her, not his type, he felt protective of her as she always goes for men who are shits and he felt he owed her for having his back when he split with his ex. Feels plausible?

Male friend of mine thinks he was cheating, got caught so said that to placate me and is now going with what I don’t know doesn’t hurt. He thinks I’m plan B to the friend, as friend by all accounts isn’t bf usual choice so he probably wants a sensible back up. It certainly feels possible too.

Amongst all of this, what unsettled me the most was he tried to turn stuff on me - I hadn’t met his DD or family yet (we were due to do that last weekend but obvs called that off) which he wanted me to do and he felt he was being too patient with me over the issue with his friend.

My ex gaslit me and I’m not down for hanging about for anymore of that. So I called him on it. He could see it and he apologised. And interestingly he hasn’t over compensated which I thought he might try to go overly loving but almost glad he hasn’t.

Other thing is he seems to drink a lot. I bought this up and he said he had a drinking problem at uni (15 years ago) so now he has rules in place about what he drinks/when and he feels he can give it up whenever he wants.
We discussed that proportionately just because his drinking now Isn’t as bad as it once was, it doesn’t mean it’s not bad, and he said he hadn’t considered it that way, he just enjoys it but finds his tolerance level quite high so has to drink quite alot for it to have an effect.
I always find it tricky to judge what’s normal in alcohol consumption because I barely drink (not anti drink, just I’m an idiot when I drink and hangovers hurt!) and I’ve worked in pubs for a long time and seen the damage it can do.

This was a week or two ago but I don’t know how I feel bout it all now.

Part of me thinks this is daft to be tying myself in knots over someone I’ve known 4 months. Part of me thinks bin him, anyone capable of gaslighting is not someone I want to be with.
Part of me wants to see how it goes.

I don’t meet people or make friends very easily, I’ve never had a relationship where I can talk to someone the way I can him, he’s been great with some ND issues I have (in a way I genuinely didn’t know was possible and haven’t had from anyone else ever) plus when I read MN threads about alcoholics, abusive men, control freaks etc I think I’m maybe making a mountain of a molehill!

Outside opinions welcome!

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samestyle · 18/12/2023 16:12

He dated her earlier this year and now says they are just friends and conveniently sees her when your at work 🤔 I think even though he most non jealous would have a hard time completely believing this one. It's not like she's been a life long friend, out of respect for your relationship he should of stopped seeing her, the cross over between dating and friendship will still be affecting them, worse case he is cheating right in front of you and he's a heavy drinker, it doesn't sound a healthy relationship to me and obviously you don't feel comfortable with it, perhaps it's for the best you end this and spend some time reflecting on what you would want your ideal relationship to be like and time being single for a while to build your self worth and boundaries.

beatrix1234 · 18/12/2023 16:38

It’s 4 months and you haven’t had the commitment/relationship talk so he’s completely entitled to have male and female friends. I wouldn’t loose sleep over this, I would loose sleep over this:

“Anyway, this all came to a head and he said he felt it was a complex friendship but not a healthy one and so was going to block her”

Basically Your BF is planning to block a girl he’s been long time friends with, a girl that instead of a block deserves an explanation. Your BF sounds immature, cruel, unkind and quite confused, he also has a drinking habit that he’s trying to minimise.

I would continué seeing him but the red flags are waving like the ones of a pirate’s ship.

Isanyonereallyanonymous · 18/12/2023 16:43

Just for clarity we had the exclusive talk maybe 6 weeks in :) otherwise I’d be not getting my knickers in a twist over his friend.

Thanks for the responses so far, really helpful to get outside views.

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