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Really scares of hurting new guy, some icks

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elainey87 · 27/11/2023 19:43

Hi ladies.

Changed username for this one.

I'm really hoping aome of you ladies will give me some honest thoughts / feedback on this situation, sorry in advance for the word vomit.

I'm 36 single, OLD at the moment. Long story short met a guy for a first date in early October. I wasn't super physically attracted to him at the outset but not unattracted either if that makes sense. I really really liked his personality and manner around me so agreed to a second date. We've been on a good few dates since and had 3 sleepovers but there are some issues that I'm just not sure about or that are holding me back I guess and would love to hear what you think.

Totally aware that i probably sound like a complete bitch so open to hearing that too. He has been very straight with me that he is very interested in me and keen to pursue a relationship. I guess I have my reservations but going along trying to get to know him but really don't want to hurt him either

I'm 36, he's 31 so a bit of an age gap. I have a pretty decent career going after years of hard work but not earning 6 figures either if that gives context. He didn't go to uni, nothing wrong with that, kind of floated in his 20s working dead end jobs and living week to week from talking to him, and is now embarking on a degree part time over the next 4 years which is v admirable and working full time in a related line of work while he does this. He earns half of what I do - don't mind this but I worry that it could become problematic but nothing we can't figure out. I would see myself as quite ambitious and driven so I like that he is determined to make a go of things for himself.

He lives at home with his parents which while not ideal is not a deal breaker. He moved home recently while starting to study part time so at least there's a reason for this. He does pay quite a significant amount of rent to them approx 400 per month.

I know this sounds so so mean but I really don't like how he dresses. He's a big guy, fairly overweight so not my usual type tbh but the size doesn't matter to me, its that his arse crack is constantly showing and I'm genuinely embarrassed by it. Iv said once or twice oh your pants have come down etc but I don't think he cares but I do find it inappropriate and genuinely just cringe. Yesterday we were out having lunch and I came back from the loo and saw half his arse exposed from the back of the chair. T genuinely makes me uncomfortable but I don't want to be mean about it either. I know this can be sorted but I just think I'd be mortified introducing him in those clothes to family or friends. It's not really the clothes but the exposed arse is a deal breaker as petty as it might sound. I dont ant to hurt his confidence either and make him self conscious.

Two more concerns I guess I have. He's very small in the penis department. I was quite shocked the first time but genuinely trying to overlook it now because I really do like him in lots of other ways. Penetrative sex is not great and he says he does lose his erection from time to time which I suggested very gently he could go to GP about or maybe it might help mpw that he is exercising and trying to get fitter. He is receptive to both. He does satisfy me in other ways too. Iv noticed that he does go to gym but seems very uneducated on basic nutrition in some ways etc.

Last thing and probably the biggest concern is that he confided in me that he made a suicide attempt just over a year ago. I'm so grateful that he told me this but I also cried for hours when he left after we had that conversation as it honestly scared the living daylights out of me. It seemed to stem for after a bad break up and he was in a dead end job at the time etc but it shook me to my core hearing about it. He has done therapy etc and was on antidepressants for a number of months after and assures me he is doing great now and that it shocks him that he did that but I am genuinely terrified that something might happen if we were to ever end things etc and just s bit concerned about his mindset overall i guess. I'm not saying that it would be over me but it profoundly shocked me.

Anyway, I know iv done nothing hut complain and sound like horribly selfish in ways but I do really like this man at the same time. He has a lot of redeeming qualities and we get on great and i enjoy his company. He's treated me much better than a lot of men in my life but I do wonder if there is too much to overlook etc. I'm worried about how to approach things i guess. I do see potential with him in some ways and in other ways I think God what are you doing, he's so not your type of for you etc. I also don't want to try to change all these aspects of a man or make him feel not good enough.

All advice welcome please and thank you so much if you've read my essay.

OP posts:
Depdawg · 28/11/2023 22:16

Well done. Best of luck with the next one.

Savagecabbage101 · 28/11/2023 22:38

Just too many hurdles to climb here…move on. Good luck!

elainey87 · 28/11/2023 22:46

I posted at 20 past 8 this evening with my update on the call we had at 4.30pm. 10 mins after I posted he rang and I answered and to my shock he said he was outside where I live.

I'm appalled by this and somewhat stunned as he lives over an hour away. Remained totally calm and went out....didn't know what else to do and talked to him in his car for 30 mins. Tbh I'm stunned at this. I asked for space and said he had crossed a line by doing this and he said he just wanted to make sure I was OK as I had been crying on the phone. I didn't say too much just basically thar I appreciate his concern but that I'd like him to respect my wishes and not do it again. Basically was a 20 min replay of the earlier conversation. Look I don't know if it's from a place of misguided concern or thinking I'd change my mind but i did not enjoy it or want it to happen again. He promised it wouldn't happen again and I said fine it had annoyed me and we left it at that but Jesus if anything it has shown me I made the right decision. Not sure how to feel but there is certainly some relief. I did not expect that to happen.

OP posts:
therealcookiemonster · 28/11/2023 22:58

elainey87 · 28/11/2023 22:46

I posted at 20 past 8 this evening with my update on the call we had at 4.30pm. 10 mins after I posted he rang and I answered and to my shock he said he was outside where I live.

I'm appalled by this and somewhat stunned as he lives over an hour away. Remained totally calm and went out....didn't know what else to do and talked to him in his car for 30 mins. Tbh I'm stunned at this. I asked for space and said he had crossed a line by doing this and he said he just wanted to make sure I was OK as I had been crying on the phone. I didn't say too much just basically thar I appreciate his concern but that I'd like him to respect my wishes and not do it again. Basically was a 20 min replay of the earlier conversation. Look I don't know if it's from a place of misguided concern or thinking I'd change my mind but i did not enjoy it or want it to happen again. He promised it wouldn't happen again and I said fine it had annoyed me and we left it at that but Jesus if anything it has shown me I made the right decision. Not sure how to feel but there is certainly some relief. I did not expect that to happen.

oh dear. personally OP I would cut contact with him now....

FrancisSeaton · 28/11/2023 22:59

Nope nope nope
Giant cavernous ass crack on display
Small cock
Lives with parents and also a bunny boiler
Jeez

coxesorangepippin · 28/11/2023 23:02

He has a crap job, lives with his parents, is fat and has a small dick??

You're not a charity, op.

Savagecabbage101 · 28/11/2023 23:03

Oh lord…. another hurdle…seriously minimise all contact. Xmas he’s coming and you’ve lots of reasons to be VERY, VERY busy…

FrancisSeaton · 28/11/2023 23:07

coxesorangepippin · 28/11/2023 23:02

He has a crap job, lives with his parents, is fat and has a small dick??

You're not a charity, op.

I'm sorry but I just lol'ed in real life and scared the dog

QueenBitch666 · 28/11/2023 23:49

Butt crack and small penis. I'd run a mile

Aquamarine1029 · 28/11/2023 23:53

elainey87 · 28/11/2023 22:46

I posted at 20 past 8 this evening with my update on the call we had at 4.30pm. 10 mins after I posted he rang and I answered and to my shock he said he was outside where I live.

I'm appalled by this and somewhat stunned as he lives over an hour away. Remained totally calm and went out....didn't know what else to do and talked to him in his car for 30 mins. Tbh I'm stunned at this. I asked for space and said he had crossed a line by doing this and he said he just wanted to make sure I was OK as I had been crying on the phone. I didn't say too much just basically thar I appreciate his concern but that I'd like him to respect my wishes and not do it again. Basically was a 20 min replay of the earlier conversation. Look I don't know if it's from a place of misguided concern or thinking I'd change my mind but i did not enjoy it or want it to happen again. He promised it wouldn't happen again and I said fine it had annoyed me and we left it at that but Jesus if anything it has shown me I made the right decision. Not sure how to feel but there is certainly some relief. I did not expect that to happen.

Op, if you do not completely end it with him after this, you have very, very serious judgement and boundary issues.

This. Is. Not. Normal.

This guy is a living breathing red flag with a small dick. Cut all contact and never communicate with him again. Come on now. Be sensible.

dusty79 · 29/11/2023 00:11

Sounds so me like you did the right thing! I hope he respects your boundary and doesn’t pull a stunt like just turning up again!

huggyhoo · 29/11/2023 00:27

Nicely handled OP.

He clearly has no respect for your boundaries or your earlier request for space then.

Can't help but think if the roles were reversed and you unexpectedly turned up at his place after being dumped, he'd just call you a bunny boiler and refuse to engage..!

Hope you're okay and he gets the message now.

RantyAnty · 29/11/2023 03:09

Geez I really hope he stays away.
He has stalker vibes.

Olika · 29/11/2023 06:03

Oh gosh better to stay away from him from now on. Let's hope he got the message.

DaisyDoor · 29/11/2023 06:07

You’ve done the right thing.

If he turns up again, don’t go out.

MarleyandMarleyWoo · 29/11/2023 06:16

Op you’ve definitely done the right thing finishing with him, you don’t owe anyone anything and you can finish a relationship, or a budding one, for any reason you want to let alone a whole long list of reasons
Its done now, but in future, please don’t entertain men who do massively overstep boundaries the way this one did showing up at your home, and definitely don’t enter enclosed spaces with them, by sitting in their car or similar!

MoonRiverBlue · 29/11/2023 06:30

I cant believe you let it go this far, by the first date you should have figurer out his living and work situation and on that alone decided to give him a past. You sound so incredibly low on self confidence. You knew his age before you went on a date but you kept ignoring red flag after red.
I wouldnt have cried over the phone or wenf out to talk to him, some men get violent.
I think you really have poor boundaries.

JuliaGoolias · 29/11/2023 06:45

Run for the hills. I'm sorry to say suicide was the biggest red flag for me as I've been through suicidal ex partner. Would never ever put myself in that position again.

billy1966 · 29/11/2023 06:50

Final text should be "Upon reflection and after you called to my home despite my request for space, it is my preference for no futher contact. Please do not contact me or come to my home again".

Should he call again, do NOT go out to him.

Tell him you will be reporting him for harassment.

Please do not dismiss this.

Take this seriously and cut contact firmly and clearly.

Haveca look at the www.freedomprogramme.co.uk too.

You deserve so much better than this.

Please don't entertain settling for so so little.

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littlefifi · 29/11/2023 07:02

Op you have done the right thing by ending it if you aren't that into him. You don't owe anyone a relationship and you can't force these things.

Some of the comments are fucking vile though. 'Indecent exposure' and 'contempt for everyone he meets' because he has a builders bum? Absolutely batshit.

I feel sorry for the guy. He clearly has some issues. That doesn't mean op should stay with him, she's obviously not attracted to him. But there is literally no compassion or understanding on MN sometimes. People want partners to communicate and be transparent then when they are they are a 'red flag'.

elainey87 · 29/11/2023 08:20

Agreed. Message received. I feel a massive sense of relief this morning. Thank you.

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bonzaitree · 29/11/2023 08:52

You had doubts for a reason OP and this turned out to be correct.

wited · 29/11/2023 09:14

I think you've done the right thing.

You also reminded me of DS's favourite joke.

Doctor doctor, I need a new arse. This ones got a crack in it.

JustACountryMusicGirlInCowboyBoots · 29/11/2023 09:46

Well done OP. Now block him and never answer the door if he turns up.

doriszinkeisen · 29/11/2023 10:20

You have done the right thing.
Years ago I had ONE date with a man who exhibited many similar traits to this guy (although we never slept together). I didn't want a second date and he rang me up late that night crying about it and saying all sorts negative about himself.