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Can a relationship survive where previous abuse has occurred?

10 replies

Lostloner · 17/11/2023 13:02

Hi everyone, I'm constantly in a battle with myself because I feel like I'm falling apart all the time. My partner and I initially met for the first time online when we were 15. We fell out but started talking again 2 years later and been together since.

Things were pretty rough early on but I suspect due to my own traumas I had the idea in my head I could "fix" someone if they really loved me. My first mistake. Within the first 3 months the police had already been called because he threw my console across the room after assuming I poured water on one of his items (I didn't). Following other things that evening I rang the police because I was scared, yet somehow the next day I spent a good hour profusely apologising to him. I ended up falling pregnant while at university and decided to try and make things work.

To this day pregnancy triggers me because of what I endured, hands on me, items being thrown around, being shouted at like I was a piece of dirt, silent treatment. I fought back because I thought it wasn't OK and I was heavily pregnant.

When the babies were born, it continued. From having the kids shoved (literally new born) into the car seats and being told to leave to being locked outside with one child repeatedly asking to come in so I can feed them.

This pattern pretty much continued until last year where after months of heavy drinking he decided to get anti depressants. He blames his behaviour on depression and PTSD.

Never mind the emotional abuse I would receive, I had to beg him to help me around the house, with the kids, just basic adult things. His excuse would always be I pay the bills.

We go on holiday to visit his family yearly and every holiday always had a massive argument. My top 3 are when I was pregnant again, he berated me and I cried all the way to the pub, when he shouted and called me a slag at a theme park because my top kept falling down and I didn't want to close my jacket as only a tiny bit of my bra was showing, and when he threw my stuff outside of our accommodation after drunkenly saying I only care about our youngest because she looks more like me.

A close friend of mine passed away unexpectly and I cut contact with them before due to my partner hating the fact they disapproved of our relationship (I will regret this for the rest of my life)

At present, we get along better but I truly only view him we as a friend at this point. I never intiate sex or affection, I find myself lying about not having a sex drive even though an inappropriate thought with an actor I fancy gets me excited. If we do anything I always drift off and think of something else. Whenever my family talk about marriage it makes me reel because I feel unhealed. I'm still begging to have help despite doing a full time masters degree and being responsible for young children. I do their homework with them, make sure they have what they need, cook, clean, do laundry, shopping.

We've talked about therapy but when I truly think of things, I imagine myself alone and happy. We have yet to try it but I guess what I'm asking is can a relationship overcome previous trauma if one is checked out? I'm just feeling worn down. I'm in the process of getting therapy for myself.

Thanks. ☹️

OP posts:
roseopose · 17/11/2023 13:11

I really don't think this is possible or advisable to try and overcome past abuse on that scale. My ex was physically and emotionally abusive and whilst the relationship got 'better' , what I realised was I just adapted my behaviour so that he wouldn't react with abuse so I wouldn't challenge him on things I knew would result in him yelling or hurting me even though in a normal relationship I should have been able to.
He did actually improve in the sense that he was less abusive less often, and stopped the physical abuse but once someone has done that to you, you will always be afraid of them because you know the lengths they will go to to hurt you. And that fear also helps keep you in check, minding what you say and do to avoid a negative reaction.

Hbosh · 17/11/2023 13:37

I'm sorry all of this has happened to you.
I'm also sorry that you've never valued yourself enough to leave this man. I hope some day very soon you'll start to see that every living being deserves better than this.
In my honest opinion, no, there is no overcoming this. Because it's still not over. You may get along, but there is no healing on his end. No intensive counseling. No accountability for his actions. No apologies of acknowledgement of your suffering. He hadn't realised that you were his victim and he was your abuser. He hasn't asked for your forgiveness.
He is a hair away from falling back into his old habits and continuing to terrorise you.
No wonder you haven't been able to process or heal from what has happened. Let alone forgive him. You're still in the middle of it.

category12 · 17/11/2023 17:44

It's a really bad idea to have joint counselling with an abusive person - even if they're not currently behaving in that way.

If your dream is to be alone and happy, then I think you should go after that. You've already given years of your life to this man and what other people expect of you, it's time to look after you a bit more.

Have therapy individually and think about how you want your life to look. You only get the one.

Newnamehiwhodis · 17/11/2023 17:51

No. Not when it’s like this. Not when everything in you is telling you to leave, when you fantasize about being alone.

just absolutely no. He’s not been good to the kids, either.

we are not rehab centers for damaged men. You do not have to stay with him. It won’t get better.

halfthishalfthat · 17/11/2023 18:04

Please leave, this actually made me cry to read. The things he has done are unforgivable and I don't believe that he can or will change. Get all the help you can: family, friends, Women's Aid and just leave. You owe it to yourself and your children to keep yourself and them safe from the physical and psychological harm this man apparently has no qualms about inflicting.

WhichIsItWendy · 17/11/2023 18:23

I wouldn't want to "work on" a relationship like that. You have no work to do, be needs to fundamentally change, which I don't believe he will or even can.

For all of your sakes, move on. Find freedom, safety and happiness. The same goes for your children. Your partner sounds like a horrible partner and horrible father.

I heavily suspect he'll be abusive again.

HowAmYa · 17/11/2023 18:28

Stop this thought right now.
You have described some serious abuse here. You need to fucking leave for christ sake! Please please speak to women's aid. You and your children are in so much danger, you cannot afford to even sit and think about this.

Please get help to leave OP. I pray you and your children find a safe home away from this horrendous abuser.

Dweetfidilove · 17/11/2023 18:56

Every time I think of my baby crying on the other side of the door to be fed I’d want to poison him, so it’s a no from me.

You can never forget someone did those things to you, so could never be anywhere close to happiness with them.

Watchkeys · 17/11/2023 19:07

Look to yourself. Why do you want a relationship with someone who has abused you?

PaminaMozart · 17/11/2023 19:16

You need to stop having babies with this horrible abuser and save yourself and your children. How do you think they feel, having to grow up like this?

As advised above, do NOT engage in joint counselling with your abuser - invest in individual counselling instead.

Start by doing the Freedom Programme.

But above everything else you need a practical escape plan. Call Women's Aid for help.

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