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Opposing views at final hearing in family court

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Courtnightmares · 05/11/2023 20:25

Has anyone ever got to a final hearing where the independent expert say psychologist or psychiatrist and Cafcass Guardian have opposing views?

For example, the expert says unsupervised contact is too unsafe and should remain in contact centre but Guardian says contact could move away from contact centre?

This is the position I find myself in currently...

Just wondering if anyone has any experience and what happened in your case?

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Ibravedaflood · 05/11/2023 20:27

After 4 years my dc's guardian admitted his entire case was built on 'facts' from my exh. Case collapsed.. Have you read the entire report?

Courtnightmares · 05/11/2023 20:33

Ibravedaflood · 05/11/2023 20:27

After 4 years my dc's guardian admitted his entire case was built on 'facts' from my exh. Case collapsed.. Have you read the entire report?

Crazy. How does that even happen?

The Children's Guardian believes my exes performative tears and she's completely charmed by him.

Psychologist less so.. she spotted his narcissism almost immediately.

The incredible thing is this is the Guardians chosen expert.

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Ibravedaflood · 05/11/2023 20:35

Go through that report with a highlighter and depute anything you can with your solicitor.. Have you got witnesses to support the truth?

Courtnightmares · 05/11/2023 20:38

I do but the final hearing will only consist of expert, guardian and me and the father giving evidence.

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Ibravedaflood · 05/11/2023 20:43

Then you make sure your evidence is correct.. My barrister pulled the guardian up on just 1 'fact'.. That's all it took.
My exh lost his cool big time and tried to punch me from the witness box! Facade slipped. Be patient op. Keep your cool. Stay very factual. And unemotional although that will likely be tough...

Courtnightmares · 06/11/2023 11:57

Thank you, just very tense atm.

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TTbroadyah · 06/11/2023 19:59

Is Guardian saying could move away from contact centre but should remain supervised? Long term contact in contact centres is not great for the child, but in some cases of course it is needed.
What are the risks?
How old is the child?

Courtnightmares · 06/11/2023 20:12

TTbroadyah · 06/11/2023 19:59

Is Guardian saying could move away from contact centre but should remain supervised? Long term contact in contact centres is not great for the child, but in some cases of course it is needed.
What are the risks?
How old is the child?

Child is 5.
Significant domestic abuse.
He abused DD physically and emotionally, proven in court with very significant evidence.
He denies perpetrating anything despite findings of facts made.
He has stalking and harassment charges again him.
He continues to harass me.
Refuses to do therapy.
Refuses to do a dvpp or dapp
Emotionally manipulates DD in contact, recorded in contact notes the comments he makes.

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TTbroadyah · 06/11/2023 20:56

Then surely Guardian is not recommending off the back of that that contact should be unsupervised? Potentially start in contact centre with review, and move on to supervised in community?
Either way, be clear on your views, what you think is best for child and why. Expert and guardian can present their views.
Are you legally represented?

Courtnightmares · 06/11/2023 21:35

No, the father has had several years of supervised in contact centre. This is current behaviour and behaviour since the fact finding..
I am legally aided but have a good barrister for my next hearing.

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