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Anger when I ask for affection

65 replies

Wishingwell89 · 02/11/2023 08:03

My boyfriends mental issues and problems have always been the center of our relationship. They have always created thus up and down emotion within him. He blames me alot for everything in the relationship. When he's low and down and I dare mention how I feel he goes straight into attack mode. I'm always there with advice and I've lent money and nothings ever too much trouble.

The last 8 or 9 weeks he's been on a massive low. He's mentioned feeling suicidal twice. I helped him sort therapy and he didn't bother answering the phone. I've loaned him money whilst he's too down to work. He has neglected all my needs (I hope that isn't shallow) he isn't walking me home. He's not comforting me and there's no intimacy. I feel starved. I cry alot.

Stuff in my own life is getting big. I'm about to go rent a house on my own after finally selling my house with my children's dad from years ago. It's a big Time in my life. I've felt really down in the dumps this last week. The emotions about my house move and my kids lives changing and me having to start again goes.the bottom essentially alone is massive.

My partner knew I wasn't sleeping the last 3 nights. I've told him I'm so down and sad. I go visit him and he sits next to me stiff as a board. All I want is him to pull me in for a huge hug and reassure me ill be OK.

I walked home in the rain this morning after staying over. He stayed in his dressing gown as always whilst I walked 30 mins in the dark alone for work. He didn't message as I walking like he often does. I phoned him when I was Almost home and said I felt like I didn't matter. I said I would give anything for him to give me a massive cuddle and let me cry in his arms. It was met with anger and him saying I was always starting. He continued telling me that if I'm depressed to go speak to a Dr it isn't his fault and that he has enough of his own stuff to deal with. He said I never listen and he's told me I'm selfish because love and relationships aren't about 1 thing. I said to him it's one thing to not want to have sex anymore but if he can't force himself to comfort me with a cuddle then how does he expect me to feel positive. I said he's refusing to meet any of my needs at the moment and getting angry at me that it's affecting me.

I've supported him all year and been there through all his struggles and now I'm being treated this way.

What are your honest opinions?

I've told him we need to take a break. He often will say he thinks about suicide when we fall out as he has nothing or nobody else. Which is true..but I don't know how to make myself feel loved and valued by him when he's refusing to step up for me.

OP posts:
GrazingSheep · 02/11/2023 08:05

He is a manipulator.
Leave him and focus on yourself and your family.

FredintheShed · 02/11/2023 08:08

You need to focus on your new future with your children and leave this draining miserable man on his own. He is not partner material he gives you nothing and takes a lot. You need to value yourself that you are worth more than this. You are probably more afraid to be alone than you are of living a miserable life with him and this is a big deal. What example will you set to your children, that relationships are hard work, you never put yourself first and are sad all the time? It’s not right. He isn’t ready for a real RS. If he harms himself that’s his decision not your fault you can’t keep paying him to be your boyfriend

Youthinkyoureuniqueyourejustastatistic · 02/11/2023 08:12

I think if he’s low, it takes everything he has to just be.
He’s got no extra for you.
It’s the depression and not him. He can’t turn it on and off for you.

I had a period of depression myself and I just couldn’t function or have a proper conversation.
When my husband went through a patch he couldn’t even choose what he wanted from the fish and chip shop.

There is just nothing left.

It’s really hard. Sometimes you just have to be. But that doesn’t mean you have to stay with him either.

Bobtheamazinggingerdog · 02/11/2023 08:14

He's dragging you down. Please cut loose.

MsMarple · 02/11/2023 08:16

He sounds utterly poisonous.

Please cut contact with him. I can see why he has no-one else in his life if this is how he treats them - taking your money and time, controlling you with threats, and starving you of affection. Just ditch him.

Wishingwell89 · 02/11/2023 08:19

I have tried to be there for him and what's Hurt is I've paid for food this week I've visited. I've done all the chasing around. I've never once this year expressed anger towards his emotions. But realising he can't even say come down after work later and I'll give you a cuddle and we can have ane atly night tells me I don't make him feel how I once did..if it was the other way round I'd always soothe him.

I am trying so hard to be happy and sort my life out and I have nobody there being "strong" for me. He should be my strength. He's always shouting. He does alot of cooking for us so he thinks because he cooks food and I sit on the sofa at his flat he's doing everything to make me comfortable.

I can't explain how much I'm finding it hard that he never touches me..he used to really fancy me and now he doesn't even want a hu

OP posts:
Fkalfkfcnmoo59600789 · 02/11/2023 08:19

You’re a convenience to him and because of his issues he knows that’s keeping you there, manipulating you.
Please please stop this relationship with him, your kids must be wondering why mum is sad all the time.
You’ve got loads to look forward to, a new life with your children, new home.
The fact you’ve given him so much money and he’s refused help with a therapist that you arranged says to me he doesn’t want to change.
It’s not down to you to fix him, we can’t fix broken people they have to do that themselves.
Focus on yourself and your children.

Shoxfordian · 02/11/2023 08:19

Don't beg for affection, concentrate on your new home and your kids- dump him

Ladyj84 · 02/11/2023 08:21

This is a classic with severe depression, mental health issues. Affection,warmth,the right words don't come easy and can't be forced unfortunately. Sadly it also sounds like he is a taker from you and you really need to stop that and think of yourself. If your in a relationship your not happy with you need to break away take some time for yourself and find someone who meets your needs and is like minded. Also it looks like your gone all out to help him and he isn't taking up that help. The classic is to use suicidal intention to keep you but he really isn't your responsibility. Good luck in your new place

VeridicalVagabond · 02/11/2023 08:25

Leave him. His poor mental health is not your responsibility, especially as he's completely unwilling to do anything about it. This is an absolutely miserable relationship and will continue to be.

Stop setting yourself on fire to keep him warm.

Break up with him, if he threatens suicide call the police and let them deal with it (he won't actually do anything, people who use suicide as a manipulation tactic never do, but call the police anyway then you've done your dues).

AtrociousCircumstance · 02/11/2023 08:26

Absolutely dump him. He’s using you and manipulating you. Focus on a bright new start with your kids.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 02/11/2023 08:28

What does he bring to your life? As frankly it sounds as if he sucks the joy out of it let alone you bailing him out financially. It seems as if you've become a carer for a man who's hostile and uninterested in you?
As your post suggest, you're worth so much more.

Whalewatchers · 02/11/2023 08:29

Sorry, what do you get from this relationship?

Apart from hope that you can fix him and 'one day' things will be much better?

If you are feeling worse because of having him in your life, don't.

FredintheShed · 02/11/2023 08:29

I’m sure you are a nice person OP and breaking up with this man doesn’t make you a bad person. Staying with him might really be detrimental to your children. This man is not your child not your responsibility. Put yourself and them first. It doesn’t matter what the causes and reasons are, you aren’t happy with him

betterangels · 02/11/2023 08:30

Honestly, why is this enough for you? Constantly managing his moods must be exhausting. Focus on yourself and your children.

LoneFemaleTraveller · 02/11/2023 08:31

My boyfriends mental issues and problems have always been the center of our relationship.
this is your very first line. you have children. Why did you even go on a date with him? Why then, having met him, think he would add value to your life?

for fuck sake, op, end the relationship, get some counselling yourself and focus on rebuilding yours and yours children’s lives.

wimen are not fixers of men. It is even arrogance to think you have the knowledge and skills to be.

TheGoddessFrigg · 02/11/2023 08:32

AS the saying goes- don't set yourself on fire to keep someone else warm

FredintheShed · 02/11/2023 08:34

I don’t know whether to give OP more harsh words as this is on my mind but what are you doing? Your DC are clearly going through a terrible time and what is their mum doing? Hanging around this losers flat crying at not getting a hug and worrying about him. Whilst you spend all your energy on this man you aren’t investing energy into yourself or your kids.

LoneFemaleTraveller · 02/11/2023 08:34

I can't explain how much I'm finding it hard that he never touches me..he used to really fancy me and now he doesn't
end the sentence there. You are convenient for him. He gets plenty of what he needs from you. He doesnt have to give you anything and yet you keep giving and giving. You paid for his food? Do your children have a stable home? Do you have money to throw at an ungrateful man instead of spending it on your children and family life? What has your children’s lives been like this year? Hobbies? Holiday?

you're trying to make him a strong and decent man. He isnt. You cannot change people.

DeadbeatYoda · 02/11/2023 08:42

I read the first three lines of your post and I have the same thing to say to you as I would say to my daughter. Never let someone else's mental health steal your happiness. No bf or gf is worth giving your life up for. I have spent my marriage being strong because of my exdh's mental health issues. It's shit. Don't do it. Better alone than robbed of your self-esteem and contentment. Seriously, give it up.

OfficerChurlish · 02/11/2023 08:43

My boyfriends mental issues and problems have always been the center of our relationship.

If this were a long-term relationship which had previously been genuinely reciprocal - with the two of you both fully listening to and communicating with each other, compromising to make the other happy, and offering roughly equal support to each other over time - then I'd understand wanting to stick by him through (new) MH issues and hoping things will improve. Even then, though, he would have to want to improve and commit to trying to improve (actually seeing an MH professional, for example). And it would still be very difficult for you to deal with his being emotionally absent/appearing not to care for you while he works out his issues.

But your post makes it seem like it's never been an equal relationship - maybe a little bit better at times because HE fancied you more, or HE was happier with his life, or HE was in a good mood, but always centred on HIM. I'm with the PPs who asked what you're getting out of this relationship, because it sounds miserable. Also, please don't let yourself be trapped by the suicide threats; those are a huge red flag and if he is genuinely suicidal nothing you do is likely to make a lasting difference positive or negative. If the feelings are genuine, he needs professional help.

Oldthyme · 02/11/2023 08:45

Today is the first day of the rest of your life.

Let today’s episode be the catalyst of using his disdain and bad attitude towards you as a springboard to dumping him. It’s the last straw.

Today OP!

You have enough on your plate, going thru a massive life change.
Time for you to think of your children and your own security without the distractions your BF provides.

He’s making you miserable. Just do it!

WhereDoYouGo1 · 02/11/2023 08:49

This man can’t give you what you want.

Wishingwell89 · 02/11/2023 08:58

@OfficerChurlish your words really hit home.

I've messaged him.and said we need to have a break from the relationship as we can't find a balance that works for us both

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DyslexicPoster · 02/11/2023 09:02

Your not married, he isn't your kids dad. Leave. Run. He is a selfish user. He give nothing at all positive in your life in fact he gives you misery. Spend your money on your kids new home not this tosser.

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