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I’ve met someone lovely but I’m questioning it

32 replies

Whydoesitkeepraining · 01/11/2023 21:57

Im 30 and I’ve met a guy the same age who has a colourful past which - taking him at face value - he’s been open and honest about.

We’re not at exclusive stage yet. No rush. Lots of compatability but based on what he’s told me about his history, I’m struggling with knowing whether to see how it goes or end it now so thought I’d ask wise MNers as objective opinions are helpful. I don’t want to be too judgemental as I appreciate everyone has their stories.

He had a bad relationship in his late teens to early 20s. She was very violent and he hit back at times or held her arms in self defence in return. They had a child who he has custody of as the mother left and has since gone abroad and has not expressed any wanting to be in child’s life since. Child well loved and he’s well supported by his family around him to raise them.

He had a second relationship 5 years later which was healthy, but ended naturally and she moved back to her home country. She then advised she was pregnant. He has met child once and sends money. He isn’t on birth certificate and has sought legal advice but is reluctant to push the mother through court for access as believes child and her have good life and are settled and would feel bad causing this trauma, but is sad about not knowing his child. I find this upsetting, as I always think fathers should push for access no matter how difficult and challenging.

He had a third shorter relationship which involved drama and admits he should have walked away earlier but didn’t and has learned from this.

He’s had therapy. He’s now looking for a normal healthy relationship. He’s been single for 2 years to take some time off.

Thoughts?

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Starmoonsu · 01/11/2023 22:03

My thoughts are I wouldn’t even entertain this. Life is complicated enough without having to deal with this guys baggage.

Dacadactyl · 01/11/2023 22:05

Absolutely not. That past would have me running for the hills.

MadamVastra · 01/11/2023 22:05

No no no

keojam80 · 01/11/2023 22:06

Hell no! Don't even consider it. Men like this are scum of the earth, past or not.

Oldthyme · 01/11/2023 22:10

You only have his side of the stories. He’s got a ton of baggage.

Take it slow, very slow, take it easy and don’t whatever you do, give away your heart and head too soon.

OutfitNeededPlease · 01/11/2023 22:12

Absolutely no way on this earth.

category12 · 01/11/2023 22:12

God no -
past violence where he's minimising his part
child whose mother has fled
child he has barely met
and "drama" .

Him telling you all this early is not a sign of marvellous honesty and integrity - it's more likely him testing how much you'll overlook and swallow.

Whydoesitkeepraining · 01/11/2023 22:16

Thank you all so much for your replies. I appreciate your advice.

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Dotcheck · 01/11/2023 22:21

I dunno.

He had a bad relationship when he was young. He is raising his child.

He found out he was a father for the second time after the relationship ended. I DON’T think all fathers should push for access. I think his judgement is sound on that one. He’s sending money.

Do you all think people never evolve?

Whydoesitkeepraining · 01/11/2023 22:22

@Dotcheck why don’t you think they should all push for access - genuinely interested.

yes I do think people can evolve which is why I made this post to see what objective reactions were. I don’t want to be too judgemental.

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MissIndecisive2023 · 01/11/2023 22:28

category12 · 01/11/2023 22:12

God no -
past violence where he's minimising his part
child whose mother has fled
child he has barely met
and "drama" .

Him telling you all this early is not a sign of marvellous honesty and integrity - it's more likely him testing how much you'll overlook and swallow.

Absolutely this.

I wish I had paid attention when my partner spelled out early on the kind of person he is.

Walk away now.

determinedtomakethiswork · 01/11/2023 22:36

If he had put all those things on a dating site page, would you have wanted to contact him?

Whydoesitkeepraining · 01/11/2023 22:42

@determinedtomakethiswork no I wouldn’t.

I just don’t want to be someone who doesn’t give someone a chance. What if he’s ready for a fresh start?

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AtrociousCircumstance · 01/11/2023 22:45

It’s not about what he’s ready for or not. It’s about your inner instinct (which you’re trying to stamp out and ignore because I’m sure he seems fascinating and hot…) to flee from this damaged and damaging person.

VelvetVoice · 01/11/2023 22:48

Whydoesitkeepraining · 01/11/2023 22:22

@Dotcheck why don’t you think they should all push for access - genuinely interested.

yes I do think people can evolve which is why I made this post to see what objective reactions were. I don’t want to be too judgemental.

Curious if DNA test was done?
Have you met the rest of the family and the child he has custody of?
Have you searched for his ex online?
Do you know if he has criminal records?

Thisisworsethananticpated · 01/11/2023 22:57

It’s about your inner instinct (which you’re trying to stamp out and ignore because I’m sure he seems fascinating and hot…) to flee from this damaged and damaging person

this
I think you know him better than us
and yes people can evolve

listen to yourself

Whydoesitkeepraining · 01/11/2023 23:10

Thank you all. I’m going to end it. Despite how much I want him.

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Olika · 01/11/2023 23:12

Too much drama. I would like all away now.

Dotcheck · 01/11/2023 23:28

Whydoesitkeepraining · 01/11/2023 22:22

@Dotcheck why don’t you think they should all push for access - genuinely interested.

yes I do think people can evolve which is why I made this post to see what objective reactions were. I don’t want to be too judgemental.

Well, I suppose it depends if he and the mother talked about it, and they both felt that was best?
Does the child know about him at all?

Whydoesitkeepraining · 01/11/2023 23:39

No idea @Dotcheck

I just find it upsetting and would struggle knowing he had a child half way across the world who he doesn’t see

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fuchsteufelswild · 01/11/2023 23:44

When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.
Maya Angelou

Burnoutwhat · 01/11/2023 23:49

Absolutely would throw this one back.

LauraC1984 · 02/11/2023 00:06

I would apply online on your local police force website for a Claire's Law application to find out his past criminal DV history. It's so easy for someone to minimise their behaviour and blame it on someone else who 's not in the picture, always worth a check! It also means if he has probation workers etc then they'll be aware he's in a new relationship and will make sure you are aware of anything alarming. GL xx

Opentooffers · 02/11/2023 00:32

2 DC by women who left him allegedly. Women don't end things on a whim when DC are involved, and skipping country on both accounts, kinda looks like they both wanted to get away from him. He is the common dinominator.
That he doesn't want to go through court for access, in itself tells a story. The DC is on the other side of the world, so visits would realistically be very infrequent anyway, so most mothers would not have a problem with the odd visit and would let it happen without need of court. There will be more to why he doesn't ever see them.

Whydoesitkeepraining · 02/11/2023 01:54

Thanks all

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