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Need some advice, maybe I was in the wrong?

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ari568 · 31/10/2023 20:56

Me and my husband gotten into a very heated conversation over the phone. He called saying he felt disrespected because I yelled at him lastnight (currently we’re not living together). I told him I didn’t yell at him I know I had tone but I didn’t yell. I was upset on Saturday because he came way later in the day 6pm almost 7pm to come pickup our son when he said he’ll come get him around 3pm and he said he’ll be a little late and nowhere in our messages did he said he changed his mind on picking him up.

So yesterday, Monday we started texting and after the last text I sent he called me saying he felt disrespected because I yelled at him and then conversation just turned left where we’re both going back and forth and he’s just throwing out false accusations and saying things like “I need to learned how to shut up, I better be glad that he married me, and that I need to listen to him cause I’m his wife and he don’t need to listen to me because he’s the husband, I’m always lying.” I couldn’t take the arguing going back and forth so I just hung up and ignored his calls. While he’s calling my phone, he’s also sending these messages. An hour later a police is outside my house doing a welfare check and the police officer says that my husband has been trying to get in contact and haven’t heard from me all day and wanted to see if our son was ok. I told the officer that we were just on the phone arguing and he’s currently messaging. And the officer said he didn’t know that.

And later in the he called apologizing about what he said and that it gotten heated. And texted me this morning saying he’s sorry about our conversation gotten out of hand and that it makes him sad and that he loves me. I just need some advice, maybe I was in the wrong? Any advice is appreciated.

Need some advice, maybe I was in the wrong?
OP posts:
littlebopeepp234 · 02/11/2023 08:31

TrishyLou1111 · 02/11/2023 08:06

I've been in an abusive relationship. It would be ignorant of you to presume otherwise based on an impartial response to the OPs post.

It is foolish to take only one side of a VERY unclear story and bombard with Occams Razor responses, because ofcourse its easy to do that when you only see one side of a sob story (OP I'm not implying you're lying). Women can be abusive, too.

Anyway, that's my opinion. I'm allowed it. It would be foolish of you to get upset over it.

Everything that is wrong with the world is literally written in posts on these websites, and then when an opposing party comes along, it's utter rubbish 😆

I'm educated, a health professional infact, I didn't need you to attempt to belittle me with a poor educated response in order to get your point across.

Have a good day, and good luck OP with whatever you choose to do!

Nobody is belittling you! I see your point about having contact with children withheld but as you can see from the messages he is in fact very abusive and manipulative. That in itself is why she needs to get rid of him and a relationship with someone like that really isn’t worth saving

muchalover · 02/11/2023 08:40

"you are supposed to comply"

There in the messages is what he requires. He is telling you what marriage is. The fact that the Bible was written by people and rewritten over and over into the misogynistic, homophobic, racist tripe that he is using to control, reduce and berate you with tells you this man is NOT Christian or a good person.

TyrannasaurusJex · 02/11/2023 08:56

You are in an abusive relationship. Report it to the police and file for divorce.

Moreempatheticmyarse · 02/11/2023 09:06

TrishyLou1111 · 02/11/2023 04:36

I'm going to be an opposing party here because I can see two sides.

Although I do not think his reactions are completely acceptable (not knowing the whole story), there seem to be antagonistic factors that you are not showing us.

I know for a fact, that if someone, anyone, tried to withhold me seeing my children or attempted to control me seeing my children WITHOUT a good reason or cause for concern, I too, would be a lunatic and lose my shit. Women seem to use children as a means of control, too, and it's disgraceful. (Not accusing you, just an unpopular opinion)

I also know that if I was fighting for a marriage to work and opposing party was nil interested, I would feel frustrated and unwanted.

Obviously, I am not condoning the controlling/degrading elements of the messages he has sent. That's not okay, but it's evident you're not innocent here.

I'm just saying.

The Ex may be saying that she is trying to withhold contact/alienate him from his son but the only example we actually have is him turning up nearly 4 hours late to pick up his son. So so far the only person stopping him from seeing as much of his son as he can is him.

ari568 · 02/11/2023 14:48

@TrishyLou1111 thank you for your response. For the statement about him seeing his son. I've never withheld him from seeing or spending time with his son. Whenever he wants to see him my response is always ok, I'll just go and get him ready and wait for him to come get him. I don't say anything because he always say I always start an argument. I was only up Saturday because he said he was coming at a certain and then a few later says he'll be a little. He doesn't come until 6pm almost 7pm and says "Oh no Im not picking him up anymore". He didnt say anything before if he changed his mind.

OP posts:
ari568 · 02/11/2023 14:54

@TrishyLou1111 and about me ignoring his calls. In the initial post that last message i sent he called me. I dont think he even seen the last message I sent before he called me. Once we were on the phone we were just arguing back and forth I couldnt take it any further so I hung up and he continue to keep calling me and would try to call with "No Caller ID". We doing all this while I'm working. Whenever we get into an arguments and I hang-up and answer again the arguments will still continue so I just stop answering the phone whenever we argue cause I'm not going to do that. Im already a person who doesnt like confrontation but I will defend myself If I have to.

OP posts:
porridgeisbae · 02/11/2023 14:55

@ari568 He is very abusive, trying to make you think he can get you thrown in jail for doing nothing illegal etc, then going on in a quasi-religious way to try to manipulate you into submitting to him.

Then in the second lot of messages, he's trying to charm his way back in but its clear that intimidating way he has is still only just under the surface.

Please divorce him for good.

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