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I don’t believe he wants to be with me - sorry it’s long

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Triflesandmilkshakes · 28/09/2023 16:06

background: I met my partner 4 years ago and we spoke as friends for a year of that. We got closer and I made it clear I was interested in more knowing he’d never initiate. Looking back I now feel like I essentially begged him to be with me as he wouldn’t have shown interest romantically if I hadn’t and this is likely why the following issues now exist.
Fast forwarding, we had ups and downs and I felt like we weren’t progressing or having a healthy relationship at times. I’d communicate what was on my mind and discuss what we needed to do and in his defence he done everything suggested, he made effort where it was needed and we were eventually on track.
We spoke about what a future would look like and he told me he wanted to propose and had picked out the ring already. We spoke about having children and living together as they were really important to us, especially him due to his upbringing.
Fast forward again, we now have a baby, very wanted and planned. We’re mostly happy but I always have a sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach he isn’t with me for love but for convenience and now for the baby.
Im not depressed or paranoid, there are things that genuinely make me feel like he doesn’t love me and does it to keep up appearances and not have the shame of a failed relationship sharing child custody. I have told him how I felt and that he doesn’t act like a man in love, he assures me he does but nothing visibly changes. I have spoken to my best friend who stays on the fence and she thinks it’s a lack of confidence on his part.
Without badmouthing him as he is a good man, some of the things that trigger these thoughts:
He won’t have sex with me, it dwindled around the time of conceiving our baby and we haven’t had sex since. Id always have to initiate prior to that, he’s a take it or leave it man but when we were friends he was sex mad. It makes me feel like he doesn’t find me attractive. He claims he has no sex drive but I know he masturbates.
We don’t spend time together anymore. Prior to my pregnancy we’d have dates and regular hotel weekends. Even when baby is asleep he does his own thing and acts like I don’t exist. We barely say much to each other because I only see him for a few hours in the evening after work and then he goes to bed early. When we did have an unexpected afternoon to spend together alone he used this time to mow the lawn. He goes to bed early because his job tires him out so we don’t have evenings together. Weekends are often taken up visiting family.
He never brought up the subject of a proposal or a marriage again. I get the impression he doesn’t want to marry me. The opportunity came and went twice. I’m too embarrassed to talk about it now because I chose to have a baby with him before the security of marriage so it’s too late to comment in that aspect.
Kisses and hugs are far and few between and feel awkward on my part. Like I just don’t want him to touch me anymore. All the issues combined make me feel gross and lonely so any affection feels forced and cruel because it brings to the surface how my own partner basically avoids me.
He’s a great dad, but as a supportive partner in parenting I feel like a single mum. Not just because he works all day but we don’t feel like the team he promised to be. He’ll take the baby for time together and I feel like I need to disappear because I’m in his way. He doesn’t do night feeds or help me around the house. My own fault because he never has and I never asked him to, but he promised me a lot that he would and wouldn’t do yet it’s the opposite. I don’t know if it’s on purpose and he’s making a mug out of me or he’s just clueless.
Im financially independent and I don’t need him as such, I had visions of us being a happy family but since my pregnancy that image has slowly faded. I love him and want us to be happy but I can’t force him to love me if he doesn’t.
The last time I told him his actions make me feel unwanted he broke down and cried apologising he’d made me feel that way when it wasn’t true. I believed him and thought we’d get back on track. After a week he stopped making effort again and it slipped back. He brings me flowers when he knows I’m fed up because he thinks that’ll sweeten me up and that I won’t leave him. (My opinion not something he has said).
I know it now sounds like a horrible relationship, maybe it is, on the surface we’re fine and I love his company and personality, but I know I always wanted more for myself. I wanted romance and passion which I’ll never get from him. Yet I can’t imagine not being with him.
I know I’ll get plenty of replies telling me to leave him because he’s checked out. That’s how it feels and I don’t know what more I can say to make it different, but the thought of ending it for those reasons doesn’t feel right to me. He made a lot of huge sacrifices to be witH me which used to be enough to believe him, now we’re like room mates. I feel really embarrassed that it’s got to this point.
He’s not cheating fwiw, he runs a family business and is surrounded by siblings, aunts, parents etc all day until he’s home. He doesn’t socialise or go anywhere.
I just don’t know what else to try to make my point clear before calling it a day. If I have one final big chat about this I struggle with wording and I often break down and can’t get the words out, writing it down feels dramatic. I can’t change him but I don’t want to give up. If he doesn’t want me anymore I want him to admit it and not let me take the fall.
Can anyone help?

OP posts:
Catsafterme · 28/09/2023 16:40

Hard to say obviously as don't know him but sounds detached emotionally maybe, does that sound right?

I know some people struggle with emotions or showing it, like they may feel fine but don't show it. Same as some people are content with living day to day like that, it's normal for them. Are his family similar in this respect, plodding along in the same routine?

Baby wise it can take a hit on the relationship but I can't relate to your situation because I got involved to the point I did everything, I did all the night feeds and then basically raised mine. I didn't leave it to my wife but she then left it to me, so that team work didn't happen there either.

Sounds like perhaps you are two different types of people. You need affection and he does not, you need company and he doesn't. Similar in my case. I needed it, I wanted to be a team but it wasn't the case on the opposite side it was cold. However, there were other issues I won't go into.

I'm not sure what the answer is to be honest. Some people can't change, if he's always been like this I'm not sure he would. The only thing I can say is to make it clear you can't live like that.

The shame of not being a family, I had that but now mine has failed in a majorly bad way. Now my view has changed, that family unit doesn't always work out.

So it's up to you really, you either keep trying or you don't but you need to weigh up whether you can continue if it doesn't change. Don't pin your future on your children or some perceived shame though because years could pass and you may resent and it be worse for everyone.

Specso · 28/09/2023 16:42

I don’t really have much advice other than don’t waste too much more of your time with him if you’re not happy. The only thing I do know is that for the most part men never want to admit the truth even when you’re practically begging them to.

Whether they’ve checked out of the relationship, gone off you or having an affair they so often just WILL NOT tell you or talk about it. They prefer to just plod along, answer all your questions with a vague ‘everything’s fine’ or ‘yes I still love you’ and wait until things get really terrible so you end it. Even in cases where they don’t love you anymore, they love someone else or in some cases don’t even like you anymore, they still do this!

I don’t know why they do it. I guess it’s so they don’t look like the bad guy (in their mind)

I’m not saying all men are like this but a staggering amount of them are.

Pixiedust1234 · 28/09/2023 16:50

I can’t change him but I don’t want to give up.
Then you continue as you are. You can only change you.

You say you feel like a single mum doing everything, so what does he do to make you feel like a family? What does he bring to your relationship apart from tears and flowers when you say you've had enough?

You could try marriage counselling and see what happens i suppose but you need to understand that if he doesn't change then it's stay as this or leave. That's it.

Janieforever · 28/09/2023 17:12

It’s not really changed though since you’ve been together , but you not only chose this. You basically also say you’d continue to chose it

i am not sure what advice you want. As you said, he’s never going to show passion and romance. He never has. He barely shows interest. You can’t force him to show passion and romance, or even feel it.

so you need to accept this is the life you both chose, or move on.

Pumpkinpie1 · 28/09/2023 21:22

You sound very unhappy OP

monkina · 28/09/2023 22:05

could he be depressed?....

HowAmYa · 28/09/2023 22:20

This was not meant to be from the get go OP. Just accept that.
I made the same mistake. Exh and I didn't sleep together the moment I fell pregnant. Carried on for 2 years, till DD turned 1.
He was a brilliant dad and still is but I took a step back and realised we were two different people completely. I want love affection sex, the works. He was obsessed with being a dad. The first time we went out alone without dd, she was nearly 1 and it was a meal for my birthday. As dd was at my parents he said it was best I stayed there ro make sure she was ok. And he went home...he just wanted a mother for his child. Nothing more
It shred my self confidence. Taking a step back one day I realised I wasn't happy, I didn't actually want to sleep with him anymore as I'd spent so long resenting him for zero affection over the years that I'd actually fallen out of love.

We split after DDs first birthday and got divorced. He's a great dad still. We co parent well. And I have found the most wonderful man who I am proud to call my DP.

You are probably already falling out of love. Inevitably you will. He won't change. But you can. Find your happiness, Good luck x

Quitelikeit · 28/09/2023 22:46

Having a baby is like throwing a bomb into your relationship

You need to tell him that this is your new reality but that doesn’t mean things need to feel so neutral between you

You could book a sitter and organise a date night?

what is his parents marriage like?

Don’t give up yet - all marriages have highs and lows it is possible to ride them out

The guy broke down when he was faced with losing you and that shows you are worth something to him

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