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Partner needs a parenting course

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Srowsy · 25/09/2023 11:24

My partner is becoming less and less tolerant of our 6yr boy.

For background were extremely lucky that we don't have any behaviour problems, he's extremely loving and very cuddly, loves family time, loves school, he's a little crazy (possibly adhd) when having lots of fun he's prone to getting a little screechy with his excitement and bouncing of the walls. But he's very rarely naughty. Don't get me wrong he's not perfect, like all 6yr olds you have to ask him multiple times to carry out tasks, will occasionally (but rarely) test boundries, him and his 4yr old sister will argue, and he isn't always fair in these arguments, likewise neither is she.

But its like my partner just sees him as this big nuisance in his life. Our daughter is no angel, if anything she pushes more boundries, has more emotional outbursts, and is more defiant.....yet shes given the benefit of the doubt because she's 2 years younger and he has so much patience for her.

Examples of his behaviour with our son....

Scolding for making typical 6yr old jokes "daddy has a smelly bum"

Constantly moaning and complaining at him for being too whiney, saying he's scared of something, wanting too many cuddles, fidgeting too much during cuddles, not giving cuddles.

When me and son are having a really casual conversation and son loses focus, he will get told off by his dad and will then be demanded into listening to something stupid like me telling our son a joke.

He has no patience for his emotions, he may give him a cuddle, but the time he allows him to get over his emotions is unrealistically short, at which point he will be short and snappy with him, making the situation worse.

Our sons sillyness seems to push his buttons, he finds it irritating and has no qualms in telling him so.

After all this my son naturally gravitates to me in times of need, which also pushes his dads buttons.

He gets stroppy and irritated when i stick up for our son. He accidentally fell over the other day when walking sensibly and he got told off for that. I quickly stepped in as our son burst out crying and gave him a cuddle, checked he was ok and whilst my partner was shouting over me telling him off about it, i cut him off and sternly told him to lay off him.

Me advocating for him has become so common place now that our son will also advocate for himself infront of his dad when he feels able to, using what he's learned from me. This riles him up even more and then he gets told off for being a "smart arse"

His dad absolutely does not lead by example, he's very much "do as i say and not as i do" and it's driving a wedge in our relationship as he feels like I'm too soft and undermine him.

Its exhausting as this leaves no space for me to have any "off" days, because if i make bad parenting choices noone is there to be the "good cop" to take over, tell me I'm over reacting and calmly deal with the situation..my partner is just stood behind me making it worse.

Every so often we'll have a big talk initiated by myself about how his behaviour is negatively affecting our son. But it feels like I'm then parenting my partner, teaching him about the correct way to treat people and he similarly reacts in a scolded school boy manner, sits there silently, seems to be irritated that he's having to listen to me, gives little back, agrees with everything, says he'll do better. Probably makes an effort for a day or 2 then reverts back to his old ways.

I feel like parenting courses would be beneficial for him, but when I've researched this it needs to be made as a referral from health visitors, and seems to be more aimed at helping parents who are struggeling with children who have challenging behaviour, which is not our case.

Does anyone know of any private courses that would be helpful?

I'm pretty certain this is a deep rooted issue that stems from his upbringing but he's doubtful of this, and when therapy for himself has been suggested it's never materialises into anything, with "cost" being the issue.

OP posts:
Ankerdam · 25/09/2023 11:31

Would he be willing to read a book instead, particularly if cost is a driving factor? Or is he just using money as an excuse to procrastinate on dealing with his issues?

heldinadream · 25/09/2023 11:37

And by the way this will be (at least in part) due to unresolved issues as to how he was parented. Which can be a minefield. But I suggest that book is a good starting point.

Ankerdam · 25/09/2023 11:37

Or "The Book You Wish Your Parents Had Read". Like basic therapy in a book.

Maryamlouise · 25/09/2023 11:40

Or the Good Inside book by Becky Kennedy

Feel your pain though as my partner can be a little similar (not as bad but definitely not patient and too high expectations)

Srowsy · 25/09/2023 12:06

I have suggested self help books to him in the past. He chose the book, it had good reviews, but when he talked about what he took from the book, it didn't really do what it was meant to. I can't remember the name of the book but it talked about an "ape within us" he found it really interesting, but what he took away from it was the cause for his behaviour (which was very generic, mostly primative instincts) he took away very little to do with controlling that behaviour.

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Srowsy · 25/09/2023 12:10

I have 1 of these books, read it myself. I did tell him that he may find it helpful and read out certain extracts that i found interesting, he showed absolutely no interest and actually thought parts were a little ridiculous

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 25/09/2023 12:15

You have two children already; you do not need a third in the shape of him. He certainly cannot be permitted to go on treating his son like this whilst favouring his daughter. It will affect their sibling relationship too and this from his dad is affecting your boy already. Your DD will also pick up on all this tension as well.

What do you know about your partner's family background?. How does he get along with his parents these days?. Does he have female siblings?.

If he does not want therapy (due to cost my arse!. Nah, he just cannot be bothered and likely also thinks he is doing nothing wrong here, also he probably thinks he knows more than some female therapist) then I would consider if this is a man I would want to remain with. I doubt he would ever enrol onto a parenting course given also how he has treated you when you have had a conversation about his son.

PivotPivotmakingmargaritas · 25/09/2023 12:19

Can you go on a parenting course together or have counselling together. It doesn’t sound like you are both on the same page which is sending mixed messages to your DS and will eventually send mixed messages to your DD

heldinadream · 25/09/2023 12:21

Srowsy · 25/09/2023 12:10

I have 1 of these books, read it myself. I did tell him that he may find it helpful and read out certain extracts that i found interesting, he showed absolutely no interest and actually thought parts were a little ridiculous

That's a shame. He sounds a bit of a stubborn arse. You are advocating well for your son though, you're just gonna have get tough on DH. Stop victimising normal child behaviour DH because I WILL NOT TOLERATE IT!
If he doesn't like not being tolerated point out that that is EXACTLY what he is doing to a wee boy, and if he doesn't like it as a grown-ass man how does he expect a little boy to shape up? He needs insight into his own behaviour and resistance, a bit of this might help.
If he still digs in you've got a job on your hands.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 25/09/2023 12:22

I remember you from previous writings.

OMG, this is the man also that makes comments about you people rinsing his money (he calls them jokes?).

Srowsy · 25/09/2023 13:11

AttilaTheMeerkat · 25/09/2023 12:22

I remember you from previous writings.

OMG, this is the man also that makes comments about you people rinsing his money (he calls them jokes?).

Yes haha good memory. We seem to have gotten over that hurdle for now, onto the next 🙈. Alot of this has to do with his upbringing as a child, it wasn't a typical upbringing..alot of which he doesn't remember (my guess is disassociation). He was raised by a highly emotional and reactive parent who gave him responsibilities a child shouldn't have. Alot was expected of him, so i think he expects alot from our son also, and my parenting techniques are too namby-pamby in comparison. The older he's getting the more behaviours from his upbringing are being repeated. Theres definitely a cycle that needs to be broken.

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Whereland · 25/09/2023 16:12

If he is on instagram would he follow big little feelings? Less of a commitment than reading a book and he'd be getting positive parenting messages daily. Or else scrolling past by the sound of it 😑

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