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Is it me, or is it my relationship?

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DietCokeAddict19 · 24/09/2023 16:13

As a back story my mum was EA and narcissistic and my exH very similar, so I haven't had a great relationship history.

I've been with my partner for 5 years. It turns out he wasn't actually single when we met, I was OW for 3 months with absolutely no knowledge of this other person (it was a long distance relationship and he says he didn't see her at all during this time). He also slept with someone else right at the time we started seeing each other. None of this stuff became apparent until about a year into our relationship, when he initially lied about it and then told the truth (well, it could be the truth or not, I don't know, but he admitted to both of the things above). We split up for a while and then got back together - I think both of us had shitty relationships before and I felt that this one was better (yes, I know...!) and we had something between us worth saving.

Fast forward a few years, and things aren't great. He is working a lot of hours, which is exactly what my ex used to do, and it triggers me back to that past relationship. Maybe it's not entirely fair of me to feel that way, he has to work after all, but I sometimes just feel tired of the fact that it's often just me, holding all of the responsibilities of our life and household (I have 2 children with exH) and he is not part of it. He pays half the bills, but other than that lives here rent free (I've posted about this before and I know it's not on) and financially benefits from the situation as his house is rented out whilst he lives here. He does, however, pay for weekends away and meals out etc as I can't currently afford them - he earns at least 5x more than me.

However, I've had a really shit time since covid, and I don't know how much that is influencing how I currently feel about the relationship. I had PND and OCD since the birth of DC2 12 years ago, and covid has really made my anxiety much worse. I don't do much out of the house because I don't enjoy it because I'm worried about getting covid. Ironically I've already had it 3 times from the kids who got it from school, so it's not as if all of my protecting myself helps me as I am more likely to get exposed from the kids. But anyway, I find life hard at the moment because of this.

Having said that, I have a job that I enjoy, and when I'm at work and interacting with colleagues, I don't feel low or anxious or depressed, I feel ok. My colleagues are lovely and supportive and I enjoy talking to them, I can do my work and concentrate and focus (other than getting sidetracked on MN!!). And all of that makes me wonder if it is the relationship that is the issue, as I am "fine" at work.

Reading this back it looks as though the relationship is so terrible and I'm sure everyone is going to tell me to LTB! We have had some good times together, but I think maybe the little things that have added up over time have just got to the point where it's too much, and there is nothing left. I can't even sit here and defend what is good. He has been away for 2 weeks with work and asked me the other day if I miss him. I really don't. I can't think of 1 thing that I miss.

I've answered my own question really, haven't I?

The kids really like him, although they might miss the dog more. I feel guilty about putting them through another of my failed relationships (the first being the one with their dad, I haven't had a string of partners who have been around), and I do feel sad about the relationship ending because I feel bad that it's also potentially ending the relationship that they had with him, and him with them. It's been 5 years, almost half of DC2's life.

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Drummend01 · 24/09/2023 17:03

Sometimes it’s not until we’ve written it down that we truly realise our feelings, which seems like what you’ve done here. It doesn’t sound like you’re all the interested if you don’t miss him and perhaps life is going different directions for both of you, which is okay. Your children will benefit most when you’re happy (even if that is alone), so don’t stay in a relationship for their sake.

The only thing I’d rote is you mentioned you have most of the mental load, but the two children (which probably contribute to most of the mental load) are yours, so I don’t think it’s wrong of him to have a less active roll in the household. But he should be contributing to rent! When you got together, did you discuss the role he would have in the household? Did he know what you expected from him?

DietCokeAddict19 · 24/09/2023 17:11

I completely understand that the children are mine and that’s up to me to manage. The two weeks he has been away I have also been responsible for the dog (his). I work 4 days a week so she can’t stay at home with nobody here. He left me with a list of numbers of people - who I don’t even know! - who could look after her whilst he was gone, but then left it up to me to contact them and sort it all out. I wouldn’t dream of leaving the kids for 2 weeks and expecting him to sort out who is going to take them to and from school and give them dinner whilst he is at work. I do all the housework, laundry, shopping etc. I guess that’s what I meant more than just when have the kids have got the dentist and who needs their PE kit today, which is my stuff and I’m happy with that.

I just feel used.

Re moving in it sort of happened by stealth. There was never an official “let’s live together” chat. Which is probably how we have ended up like this with no rent being paid.

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EvenMoreFuriousVexation · 24/09/2023 17:18

You are absolutely being mugged off by him. I think you've gone from a relationship of emotional abuse to one where a guy isn't overtly abusing you, but is very much using you.

You say you're not even missing him, so what's the point of having him around? He doesn't appear to be bringing any benefit to your life, and the resentment you feel towards him is quite possibly contributing massively to your anxiety.

Drummend01 · 24/09/2023 17:35

Ah okay thanks for explaining, yes you are being used. I’d prepare to have a frank conversation with him

Mari9999 · 24/09/2023 17:50

@DietCokeAddict19
It seems as finances are at the root of your concern. Suggest that he move back into his house or wherever and see if living apart while continuing the relationship works. Even though he is only paying bill, the absence of those resources will mean that you now have to find a way to offset the loss of those funds. He too will perhaps have to either pay rent somewhere else or move back into his home and lose his income from that property.

Both of you stand to lose from living apart, but it may reduce some of the tension.

DietCokeAddict19 · 24/09/2023 18:39

@Mari9999 I have been pondering on the point about finances.

I suppose because it hasn't always been about money. The broken trust at the start seems to be back at the forefront of my mind, which makes no sense as it happened so long ago.

But the money stuff I think is a more recent thing. I didn't realise how much he was benefitting by staying with me (about £1800 per month), and how much I was losing (I had to stop claiming tax credits when he moved in). So I've been trying to work out why money is so triggering for me. It reminds me of both my parents' situation - my mum never worked, my dad had his own business and worked very hard, and when they divorced she took half - and my own marriage - my ex came into it with nothing but debt and walked away from the marriage with a million pound house. I get triggered by finances being or feeling unfair. But I don't know how to resolve it because I don't know what a real "fair" is without feeling like I'm being greedy, like my mum.

The other thing about money is that it makes me feel safe. Having my own money is all that I have to be able to escape. It's how I managed to leave exH - I had to leave and rent my own place. Any threat to my financial security feels like some sort of threat to my freedom and ability to get out if I need to. And it feels like he is rattling that cage around what I need to keep as mine to keep me safe.

I am scared that I will lose it all - the security and home that I have with my children. It feels under threat, but I don't know how realistic that threat really is, or if it's just me overreacting. Which brings me back to the original question which is "is it me?" or is it the relationship?

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DietCokeAddict19 · 24/09/2023 18:47

EvenMoreFuriousVexation · 24/09/2023 17:18

You are absolutely being mugged off by him. I think you've gone from a relationship of emotional abuse to one where a guy isn't overtly abusing you, but is very much using you.

You say you're not even missing him, so what's the point of having him around? He doesn't appear to be bringing any benefit to your life, and the resentment you feel towards him is quite possibly contributing massively to your anxiety.

I know, right? Most people would miss their partner somewhat if they were away, wouldn't they? In all honesty, it doesn't feel like that much different to normal. He often works long hours - leaves the house before I am up and back long after I am - and we might see each other for an hour or so before he has to go to bed, so it's not all that different to that!

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Mari9999 · 24/09/2023 18:51

@DietCokeAddict19
The answer to your question may be more what the financial situation is doing to you. Living apart would allow you to gauge the significance of the relationship without financial entanglement.

The man has his own property and resources so he is obviously not penniless. Living apart should not be a major hardship; it would give both of your breather and a chance to look at the relationship on a feeling level rather than a financially entangled level.

DietCokeAddict19 · 24/09/2023 18:57

@Mari9999 no, he is not penniless in the slightest. His property is 3 hours away, but yes theoretically he could rent near here or head back to his property. I think he would deem that to be the end of the relationship, but I guess that's his choice.

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Watchkeys · 24/09/2023 18:58

Do you think your feelings are supposed to be 'fair' to people, op?

DietCokeAddict19 · 24/09/2023 19:00

Watchkeys · 24/09/2023 18:58

Do you think your feelings are supposed to be 'fair' to people, op?

I'm not sure what you mean?

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Watchkeys · 24/09/2023 19:18

Maybe it's not entirely fair of me to feel that way

I'm not sure how else I can say it. You say that it might not be fair of you to feel that way, I'm asking you if you think feelings should be fair. What do you think they're for?

DietCokeAddict19 · 24/09/2023 19:36

I see what you mean now. I think what I am trying to say is that I don't know how much is me, with my shit/baggage, and how much is him. Is it really fair to be pissed off that he has to work and that means he's not around? Not really, because that's life.

I assume that what you mean is that my feelings should be listened to. I suppose because I've had OCD and anxiety for so long, I know that some of my thoughts aren't rational and shouldn't be listened to. So maybe I struggle to work out which ones I should pay attention to.

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Neverseenthatmuchjunkinthetrunkbefore · 24/09/2023 19:50

You are allowing him to ‘steal’ from you and your children. He pays you peanuts with bills, make a pile of money by sponging off you and you want to know if it’s you or the relationship?

Unless he has a musical penis of solid gold, I suggest you get him out of your house and stop housewifing/ dog minding for him. If his penis is truly magical, he needs to find somewhere close to live but not with you. Tell him, your children need their space back, which they do.

DietCokeAddict19 · 24/09/2023 21:32

@Neverseenthatmuchjunkinthetrunkbefore thanks for making me smile with the golden penis comment. No, he doesn't, and I'm sad that I can't think of anything that I miss about him not being here but it's the truth. I don't know if I would be best to just be honest about that, knowing that it might end the relationship anyway, or discuss the want to have my own space back, which may or may not end things.

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