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Views on a mystery from my past

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Leaveyourkeys · 21/09/2023 11:37

This is a question about something that happened to me many, many, many years ago that's always sat on my mind and I stumbled across some letters today that brought it flooding back. It was all so strange so I'd like to know what people think really happened.

We met and fell in love. I'll admit I pored over every minute and can't think of anything that was off or wrong. With the benefit or hindsight and wisdom, we were just in love.

He was reliable, sensible, calm, soft, gentle and absolutely besotted with me and we moved in together after about eight months of dating. We both had children and our children bonded like best pals and it was the happiest time of my life.

I remember being a family. Family car. Family holidays. We used to laugh all the time and our sex life was electric. I felt calm, safe and happy. He proposed, after asking my Dad, and I was ecstatic to say yes.

Seemingly very suddenly, things started to get very stressful. He car accident and was quite injured and I thought he might die. He had a brain bleed they managed to get under control. His injuries were not terrible but he seemed not there for weeks after the accident. I was there, so ended up traumatised and started having really bad anxiety.

Around the same time a lot of things hit. Work issues. A few dramas. And it turned out (I didn't know until later), that he was in debt and had financial worries.

So around six months after, he just didn't come home one day. He kissed me goodbye one morning, I remember it so clearly because he was crying and I was asleep and didn't understand. Then he left and quite literally never came home again.

Me and the kids were given weeks to leave our house, and it was all just the biggest shock and so awful and he wouldn't speak to me. I had no idea what was happening or why it was happening.

He was incredibly cruel about it. Just left me and the kids without saying goodbye or letting me say goodbye to my step skids. It was so out of character and I had no idea why.

Eventually a while later we did see each other (to divvy up belongings and so on), and he was very unwell. I remember it was like he'd become someone else. Emotionally: alternating between hysterical crying and being eerily cold and staring into space. Physically: skinny, vomiting all the time, couldn't remember things.

It was the most bizarre experience ever. He said he'd had a breakdown and said he loved me but couldn't live with me and cited me having anxiety as the reason. I remember that not making sense. We were engaged. I'd only had anxiety a few months and it wasn't that bad. It didn't make any sense.

Then a few months passed of living separately with daily video chats. WhatsApp didn't exist back then, so we would text. I just found the phone this morning with all the texts and it was so weird to read them.

He wanted to message every day and speak, but he was cold like a robot and also hypersexual. Like abnormally, insanely hypersexual of all the things he wanted to do to me. You can see in the texts that I'm going along with it (I think I just wanted ANY intimacy at that point) but I was so desperately sad.

This man who'd seemed to love me beyond anything I'd ever experienced was just completely cold and detached and telling me all these pyrography fantasies.

He said to me that he'd had a breakdown. And I got him to the GP and he got antidepressants. He started taking them, and things got worse. He was even more cold and detached. It was eerie and so painful. I persuaded him to see a counsellor and he had his first session and said it made him feel better.

Reading over the texts was so uncomfortable. Like all his love for me was gone overnight. He was polite, cold and incredibly sexual and even all these years later I felt visceral pain reading them.

I went to stay him a while later (3 months after he'd left), and he was in a bad state. I remember just being so confused. It was like he had no emotions at all. Then he went to his second counselling session and came home and said "I don't love you anymore, sorry".

I remember just the complete bewilderment. Confusion. It was like an out of body experience. The next day he went to work and I checked his Internet history. He'd been googling how to pick up women, as well as prostitutes and sex websites. Not always, just the months we'd been apart.

I remember packing my bags and leaving that morning. I texted him to say what I'd found and to express the agony I was in. He said he'd been googling those things because he had lost a sense of himself and just wanted to feel normal. He said he thought he could feel love for me, but he couldn't, and it wasn't him, it was the breakdown.

I told him that nobody was happily in love and engaged and just woke up one day not feeling it anymore and that he'd never loved me at all if that was what happened. He replied saying "I did love you, you were my whole world". But he had no explanation over why he woke up one day and felt differently.

I left, and we only spoke again one more time.

He phoned me one evening about a year later. Very gently crying. He said his kids found a family photo and said they missed us, then he said to me "we were so happy, weren't we?" and I could hear the confusion in his voice. I said "yes" and that was all.

There was never another woman. Never any real explanation. I heard he battled mental health problems (maybe still is) and as far as I know never married.

I just stumbled on the old phone and texts today and reading them after all these years didn't make any more sense than it did back then.

What do you think really happened?

I barely think about it anymore, but it is hard in ways for me to make full sense of my life with thus puzzle always there in my subconscious.

Sometimes even now if I have a bad day or feel lost or scared or alone, I picture him in our happy house that felt so warm and safe. I can still picture his Pyjamas on the knob of the bed, or his grinning face when he was down on one knee or rolling along in the car with his hand reaching over to squeeze my leg while he smiled at me and the kids made up funny songs in the back.

That's my happy place and still is I suppose.

The way those eyes used to look at me like you could visceral feel the love coming out of them, and the overnight they were like dead fish. Soulless. Not even a tear on the day I left.

I'm not in pain. I accepted it.

I just want to know.... was it ever real?

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PaintedEgg · 21/09/2023 13:53

Poor guy...and poor you and the children

unfortunately this does sound like a classic case of brain injury changing personality.

there was nothing more you could have done, it's one of those sad cases where really it was nobody's fault that this ended up this way

nobodysdaughternow · 21/09/2023 13:55

Just a thought op, but could do do some digging around how he is now? I think what you are looking for is closure.

Your whole world collapsed overnight and it is really important to find out why.

Contact the ex and ask how he is living now. If he still has the same problems, there is no way he could manage to be the Dad he once was and I would think his hyper sexuality/loss of inhibition would have been a pervasive problem too.

However, if he is living a fairly normal life and has maintain a relationship with his ex and their kids, then I would say he is a troubled person who jumped into a new relationship/family too soon and honestly wasn't his strong suit. Also that he may have had been a substance abuser.

I would have to know too, but I think the answer lies in the present not the past.

Leaveyourkeys · 21/09/2023 13:56

I find it quite odd that you talk about the accident and the brain bleed but then don't seem to consider that that could've been at the root of his dramatic personality change.... have you never thought this was the cause? has no one else ever suggested that?

There was a long time lapse between the accident and what happened. I was completely traumatised and couldn't think clearly and had no idea this could happen. I remember I thought he had a brain tumour and spent weeks on end googling that.

It was months before I connected the accident, and other friends did, but he (and his parents) wanted to put it down to a "breakdown". He did have sick leave (he said for depression over a breakup) and I honestly believe he let people at work and possibly his family believe that I had cheated on him or something. I don't know for sure but tye attitude was "he's devastated over a breakup" and people just accepted it.

He was pretty good, outwith the worst of it at acting normal. He could go to work. Although I understand he would blurt out inappropriate things or make odd sexual comments.

Most importantly HE wouldn't engage any possibility what was happening was to do with his accident so there wasn't any way to do anything about it.

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GirlOfTudor · 21/09/2023 13:57

I think you've explained what happened to him, but don't realise it. The change was due to a head injury and mental health struggles.

PaintedEgg · 21/09/2023 14:01

of course he wouldn't engage any possibility that something was very wrong - the part responsible for understanding what was going on, including inside his own head, was damaged, so he rationalised as best as he could

people with dementia often act similar - they know they don't feel 100% but cannot quite comprehend what is going on with them

Leaveyourkeys · 21/09/2023 14:06

Im scared really to reach out to anyone from the past. I moved away and locked this away and I'd be afraid of the answers.

I know he never married or had another partner. I know he left his job and works for himself. I know he has never posted anything on social media since. Still the same profile picture from 14 years ago.

I'm afraid to ask anyone. They didn't see what was happening at the time, so why would they know now? He hid it.

He tried to contact me a while ago. Maybe five years. He just sent a message saying he was just back from the pub and how was I. I panicked and deleted the app.

I can't explain

In my mind though there is this person I loved so much who just did these awful things to me and the kids and just disappeared. I had night terrors for so long and I was afraid he'd speak to me and be cold or flippant and I wouldn't be able to cope with that.

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villamariavintrapp · 21/09/2023 14:09

Sorry this happened but yes it sounds like damage to his frontal lobes from the brain injury.

PaintedEgg · 21/09/2023 14:10

i don't know if this will help, but there is another way of looking at it which helps me when I see a close relative with dementia: That person I knew before is gone. This is not the same person.

The person you loved reciprocated that love and was excited to share his life with you. He truly loved you and he would have not hurt you or the children, but that person is gone now. The accident took him away and he is never coming back. What you had was real though.

Leaveyourkeys · 21/09/2023 14:11

*of course he wouldn't engage any possibility that something was very wrong - the part responsible for understanding what was going on, including inside his own head, was damaged, so he rationalised as best as he could

people with dementia often act similar - they know they don't feel 100% but cannot quite comprehend what is going on with them*

I never thought of it like this.

I wish I'd had some support.

I did try and reach out to his parents. They lived quite far away but we had always been very close.

I said there was something really wrong with him. I said his story of not loving me anymore didn't add up and his behaviour was really weird and he needed a doctor.

I got a one line email back saying he'd be looked after and wishing me and my son well. Cold us fuck. This woman who my son had called "Granny". It was surreal.

I've no idea what he told them or the counsellor, but they seemed satisfied obviously and I didn't want to come off as the crazy ex. I had to just accept it.

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Leaveyourkeys · 21/09/2023 14:14

The person you loved reciprocated that love and was excited to share his life with you. He truly loved you and he would have not hurt you or the children, but that person is gone now. The accident took him away and he is never coming back. What you had was real though

Thank you for this.

This is what I need to know.

I think I was gaslit by some people into thinking I'd imagined it. Particularly his parents, but he was frankly a lunatic at the time so God knows what he told them. Whatever it was, it wasn't true.

I probably need to remember what I know in my deepest self. We loved each other. We were happy. He is gone.

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Bristolnewcomer · 21/09/2023 14:17

This is heartbreaking to read. FWIW I think it would maybe be nice if you got back in touch with his ex and (maybe in time) the kids. I expect they've all been through a lot in the last 14 years since presumably they also saw their dad change irrevocably and their stepmum "disappear". But start with the ex, see how she is.

AsYou82 · 21/09/2023 14:20

The moment you said head injury I realised he probably then developed life long problems with his brain. It’s not your fault it just sounds very sad. You are grieving, it’s like he died really. I’m sorry for your losses. I hope you can heal

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 21/09/2023 14:30

Sorry OP but you already know the answer and any 'help' that anybody here could offer, is completely skewed to what you've posted. This is your story and everything about it is from you.

Whatever you believe is the answer, good or bad, is probably right and other than that, you'll never know if the truth is any different.

Leaveyourkeys · 21/09/2023 14:35

Thank you. I just watched for the first time in all these years the family videos. Him making mojitos in our kitchen. Light sabre fights. Christmas morning. Building logo with the kids. Dancing in the living room to the beach boys.

I felt breathless and weird.

It doesn't feel real.

I suppose I never healed from it. My life and relationships since have probably just all been a reaction and none of that feels real either.

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BMW6 · 21/09/2023 14:49

The person you loved (and who loved you) in effect died. The frontal lobe damage would account for that personality "death".

I think grieve for the person he was and the love you had before the accident as if the body died.

Perhaps write to the person he was before, saying how much you loved him, the memories you have, and Goodbye. Then burn the letter, and let it all go with the smoke.

Leaveyourkeys · 21/09/2023 14:52

Thank you @BMW6 . I'm sat here crying at my desk. I think I'm going to just go home and do that

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LaurieFairyCake · 21/09/2023 15:07

Whether brain bleed or not he clearly became very unwell

Doesn't exclude he was also a twat and limerance

Foreverhope1 · 21/09/2023 15:46

Hi Op,

How long were you together? At what age ?

Be good to understand what your previous relationship was like, to help build a better response to why you've found yourself so deeply hurt years after the relationship had abruptly finished and with your current one.

Didimum · 21/09/2023 15:54

Did he leave his own children with you?

Leaveyourkeys · 21/09/2023 15:57

I came home and did that thing with the letter. It was sad but I felt better. Calmer. I think I probably just have to believe what I know in myself to be true.

Someone said earlier "I am so sorry for your loss" and it finished me for some reason. It felt like an important part of grief that I was denied.

Everyone was either baffled, enraged or crying and nobody said anything because nobody really knew what to say.

I remember being so traumatised there wasn't even really conversation. I was just shaking a lot and frantically writing out diaries of everything that had happened over the previous month trying to understand.

I remembered two weeks before I'd wanted to visit family and he'd asked me not to go away. Uncharacteristic because he wasn't clingy. So I didn't go.

I remembered a week before he'd been really angry at me about something. Also Uncharacteristic.

Just puzzling endlessly and then it became obvious it was serious and he wasn't coming back so I had to very quickly work out what to do.

So I went home to my family and got my son into school and somehow just survived. It was genuinely just surreal.

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BMW6 · 21/09/2023 16:16

I'm so glad writing him the letter helped.

Leaveyourkeys · 21/09/2023 16:23

I am really happy and grateful for the answers I already got, but someone asked for details about us and seeing as I have kept all this locked away so long and allowed myself to watch videos and read things I am going to answer anyway because it feels cathartic today.

We were together five years in our mid 30s.

What was out relationship like?

We didn't fight much (if we did it was over something really fucking stupid). We were both big kids: lots of building forts and remote control cars and adventures and fireworks (literally) and joy. There was a lot of joy. Our house brimmed with JOY.

There was wild sex, that after years never abated. He gave thoughtful gifts and remembered special things. We used to drag a mattress to the lounge and have lounge bed nights where we'd eat popcorn and drink mojitos and talk about everything and mostly laugh.

Holidays were a big deal. He was silly and probably the most joyful person I have ever met. He was also the most emotional man I've ever met. Like he was the type to well up watching the kids play because he felt touched by it. We never got through a school play or awards ceremony without him sobbing. I suppose why his personality transplant was extra weird, to become so completely cold.

He was also incredibly embarrassing. Classic awkward Dad that everyone loved but was also completely cringe and I loved him so much for that. There was a lot of music, a lot of cuddles, a lot of happiness. Our life together was joyful. That was the word. Happy.

After the accident, he was grouchy. Got tired a lot. Lost patience with the kids and didn't play with them. He was also more emotional, more clingy and drank a heck of a lot. I remember being worried for a few months but didn't connect it at all with the accident. I just thought it was stress because I, myself, was traumatised I think.

I said in my op that his injuries weren't terrible - I guess they weren't according to the doctors, but I saw it happen and thought he was dead. His scalp at the top was gone and I remember thinking he was dead. I can remember literally every single detail of that night like it was happening today.

He was not a perfect person, and certainly neither was I, but i really loved him and I really loved out children and our home and I have never stopped missing it and probably never will.

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violetcuriosity · 21/09/2023 16:25

I can say with a certain degree of confidence that he suffered a traumatic brain injury.

My ex was the same.

Sorry it happened. The only way I got through it was to accept that the person I loved had died and the person that came home was a new person.

Leaveyourkeys · 21/09/2023 16:31

I am sorry I just blathered there, but it was good for me to get it out as I remembered it. It has been very difficult to ever talk about with anyone I know - because like me they really don't know what happened. Being gaslit into "he is just depressed over a breakup" didn't help because I wasn't able to make sense of my story. Why would anyone be depressed and having a breakdown over a breakup if they are the one who left? Our house was happy. We were happy. I couldn't make any sense of it. I guess he couldn't either, hence the call he made a year later to say "we were so happy weren't we?". Yes, we were.

There is a quote that spoke to me from the John Green book, the Fault in our Stars, where he said:

“The pleasure of remembering had been taken from me, because there was no longer anyone to remember with. It felt like losing your co-rememberer meant losing the memory itself, as if the things we'd done were less real and important than they had been hours before.”

That was how it felt. I felt like not only him (who was saying these crazy things that were just not reality) was gone, but also that the entire world around me seemed mystified and my history, and memories were lost with him.

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