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What was the reason your children stopped seeing/speaking to their father?

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DilemmaEmma2 · 19/09/2023 10:43

I've seen lots of threads on here about children losing contact with their fathers or not wanting to see them anymore.
I have a 5 year old and I am wishing the time away that she can vote with her feet, her father is vile and abusive (has been to us both)
What was the reason your children stopped seeing their father?

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DilemmaEmma2 · 19/09/2023 20:55

Children don't need abusive parents

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Iwantitidontwantit · 19/09/2023 21:04

When my DD was emotionally broken after continously being made to feel less than her half sister. Her shit of a dad made every wrong decision there was. She has a brother wh is almost 2 whose she's not yet met and probably never will. She's now almost 14 but she started pulling away from around 11 when she really understood how awful he was to her

Toomanysquishmallows · 20/09/2023 06:17

@Iwantitidontwantit , so sorry to read this , I’m glad ex stopped seeing dd1 , as he had already shown he was far more interested in his new partner and child , than he ever had been in her .

TheDogthatDug · 20/09/2023 06:50

My DD decided to go NC with her waste of space "father" when she was. When she was younger I made sure (to my shame) that she saw him regularly and actually made her see him when she didn't want to. He is the type to say that I had prevented her from seeing his daughter. The final straw for her was when he sat and wrote her 21st birthday card out in front of her before giving it to her. She said she was sick of him calling me and her family and said he brought nothing positive to her life.

DilemmaEmma2 · 20/09/2023 09:33

I sincerely hope my DD loses touch with her abusive and nasty father, I shouldn't wish it but I do. He is just awful.
I am so sad to read some of these stories.

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DilemmaEmma2 · 20/09/2023 14:25

Bumping for more experiences x

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Crunchingleaf · 20/09/2023 14:56

In DC cases it’s a combination of trauma and no real relationship why he stopped going as often. DC is happier when he doesn’t see ‘D’F but alas ‘D’F refuses to listen to teenage DC and is dragging us through court.

RandomUser82 · 20/09/2023 20:14

I left ex in 2019. He wasn't abusive per se, but he was very emotionally distant, never did anything with me and the kids. He moved out and in with another woman and the kids wouldn't go for a while but I persuaded them and encouraged them to go. Then he decided to bypass me for sorting contact out and would go straight to the kids, which lead to them being wishy washy. They have sen and need routine and this threw them out. He also disputed the sen, which got their backs up. (They were 9, 10 and 15) Then he'd text less and less. Sometimes he'd text mid week asking if they wanted to go over at the weekend and they'd reply "dunno" then he'd never follow up saying "are you's coming over?" Gradually it petered out and now dd1 (19) hasn't seen him for 1y6m dd2 (15) since Xmas I think, and dd3(13) since March.

It's sad really and when he lived with us I used to say to him if we ever split up you'll grow old lonely cos the girls won't have a relationship with you. And looks like that's what's happening.

DilemmaEmma2 · 12/10/2023 18:34

Bumping x

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HighywayToHell · 13/10/2023 09:18

My DD is 11 and doesnt see her dad. We split in January and by March he had moved in with the OW and her kids and hasnt seen DD since March.

Of course, he loves her, he misses her, i am keeping her from him, i am using her as a weapon, blah blah blah.

He misses the point that he needs to put the effort in to see her, he needs to actually see her, not promise her shopping trips then they never happen. I have pointed this out to him several times that he needs to make the effort but twists it round on me, I did this, i said this, its relentless and pointless. He couldnt be arsed with DD when he lived with us, he cant be arsed now.

DD is actually not that bothered, she has the measure of him and is pissed off he manages to do things with his step kids but not her but is now over that. She has blocked him on everything as she doesnt want to hear from him (although he messaged once a fortnight and it was mostly a few lines). She sees the lack of effort he puts in.

Still boils my piss though that he just discarded her when he moved in with OW and her kids

pointythings · 13/10/2023 09:36

Mine drank, emotionally abused them and me and eventually was removed by police after threatening to kill me. They refused to see him after that. Fortunately at almost 15 and almost 17 they were old enough he would have got nowhere in court and he didn't even try.

He died 8 months later. We have not missed him.

bumtrumpet · 13/10/2023 09:50

He moved eight hours away. Not bothered seeing them for the last four years. Occasionally he texts to say he will visit them soon, but never actually bothers. He was only ever interested in the eldest of the two, but our eldest now isn't interested in seeing him (his own decision), so that will come as a shock to XDP, if he ever does turn up to see them.

olderbutwiser · 13/10/2023 09:53

Nothing as dramatic or horrible as some of these, and technically my grown up DCs still see their dad. But it’s very infrequent and very much on their own terms.

Sadly but predictably he is like his own parents - totally self centred, boring, martyred and entitled. He shows no interest in them or their lives but expects them to show interest in his and to trek hundreds of miles to see him. He has no understanding of DC1s autistic traits and nags him about his lifestyle even though DC1 is fully independent and happy. Despite being very well off and having inherited a lot from his own parents he has broken promises to support them financially. The kids both look back and understand what a shit he was to me, during the marriage and as we were breaking up.

Rubbish parents mostly reap what they sow.

KyliesPencilCollection · 13/10/2023 09:59

Exh irreparably damaged his relationship with my then 9yo dd when he made her his servant everytime she went there. And gave her a really shirty poundshop Xmas present. She's now 16 and only sees him from time to time.
Son stopped seeing him when he was told to 'shut the fuck up' after trying to defend me. He sees him occasionally.

Contrary to what exh like to tell the world, I've never stopped him seeing them. Unless it was inconvenient for the kids, which was rarely. He would never go out of his way to take them to birthday parties, or weekend activities.

DilemmaEmma2 · 13/10/2023 10:26

It is amazing how they skew their version of events and tell whoever will listen that it is the mother who is preventing them from seeing the children.

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UsernameNotAvailableIsNotAvailableEither · 13/10/2023 10:36

He was an alcoholic, neglected DS, was emotionally abusive and violent. He hid it really well from me and told DS that if DS told he wouldn’t love him anymore. I only found out when I caught him out one day when I went round to fetch him early. The emotional abuse and violence shouldn’t have come as a shock, because he was like that to me, but I had no inkling he was doing the same to his child, and I also had no idea of his level of drinking. He lived with a female partner and I naïvely assume that things weren’t perfect but they were alright.

The day I went round and caught him so drunk he’d passed out. I said I wouldn’t send DS back again until he’ completely given up the drink. I had no idea about the other stuff at this point.

A couple of weeks later, something happened between him and his female partner and the police attended, I think she’d took off or something and he’d reported her missing. I think the story went that he was drunk and aggressive towards the police, this is very much in character for him, so they ran background checks on him, the female partner, and a couple of days later I had a call from social services telling me to keep DS away until they’d spoken to me. I told them I wasn’t sending him anyway due to his father‘s drinking.

S S. Came round a few days later, and told me that the female partner has a conviction, which I shouldn’t go into hear, but it means people look very carefully at her before allowing her around children. They said they’ve spoken to DS’ dad and they were happy that he was going to stick to two drinks when DS was there, and they were happy that the female partner wasn’t a danger, so I should send him again that weekend. I flat refused and said the only way contact was happening is if it was a specific trip, say to somewhere like the cinema, and that there would be no pub and no going back to his home. I offered his father this and he agreed, until the morning of the trip to the cinema when he rang me up moaning that he wasn’t taking DS because DS’ bedroom was a mess. DS hasn’t seen his father since and has absolutely no desire to, and his father hasn’t made any efforts to see him either.

The thing that really pisses me off is SS, and there pressuring me to send him to his father. When his father rang me to moan about DS’ Bedroom he said it was an absolutely horrible state, and if SS had bothered to go up and see it they would’ve seen it themselves and realized not all was well. They obviously didn’t visit or put any effort into making sure my child would be safe with his father, and instead just pressured me to go back on my decision not to allow him to go there.

over the next year or so lots and lots came out from DS about the way his dad had behaved and treated him. I was horrified, I felt so guilty, but I genuinely didn’t know it was happening, otherwise I would have acted.

obviously much much more went on, this is just the potted version, and it was all very ugly. Of course I had all the usual people telling me that a boy needs his father and it wasn’t fair for me to keep him away, that I’d do untold damaged to DS who would then blame me blah blah blah. Ignore them. Look at all the damage me trying to facilitate DS relationship with his father did, even while all the time DS‘ father was trying to control me, then threatening and verbally abusing me if I didn’t comply. It’s taken me years to undo some of that damage, and I’ve had to work really hard with DS to try and mend things for him, and equally as hard on myself to try and mend things for me.

all this took place in 2017, DS was upper primary school age. His father has made one very half arsed attempt to contact him since, through me, because we’ve moved away and he doesn’t have DS’ number. In reality, he was just trying to get to me, he only mentioned DS once. He actually tried to call another family member of mine a couple of days later, because he got short shrift out of me.

DS doesn’t want anything to do with him and has a very low opinion of him indeed. I think inside he still feels torn, because obviously he’s his father but DS can’t forgive him for what he did.

of course he doesn’t tell it this way though. According to him, he loves and misses DS and it’s his evil ex-wife whose kept him away and turned him against him.

Toomanysquishmallows · 13/10/2023 11:00

I’m really glad ex dp has nothing to do with dd1 , he is an arrogant narcissist, and his wife who was the ow has borderline personality disorder. My beautiful dd1 has been so much better off , not having those two and their endless drama in her life .

LisaVanderpump1 · 13/10/2023 11:04

I stopped wanting to have contact with my dad when he pleaded poverty which meant that my sister and I went without while he lived in a big house and drove a Merc. He'd do all sorts of things to try and psych out my mum which left all of us feeling unsettled/scared.

He tried to make contact with me a couple of years ago and we spoke briefly on the phone. He wanted to brush everything under the rug and said "all of us didn't act very well" (I was about 10 when him and my mum split). If after 25 years you're going to contact me and still not take responsibility and apologise, I have FA interest.

DilemmaEmma2 · 13/10/2023 13:08

LisaVanderpump1 · 13/10/2023 11:04

I stopped wanting to have contact with my dad when he pleaded poverty which meant that my sister and I went without while he lived in a big house and drove a Merc. He'd do all sorts of things to try and psych out my mum which left all of us feeling unsettled/scared.

He tried to make contact with me a couple of years ago and we spoke briefly on the phone. He wanted to brush everything under the rug and said "all of us didn't act very well" (I was about 10 when him and my mum split). If after 25 years you're going to contact me and still not take responsibility and apologise, I have FA interest.

It is interesting to have it from your child's perspective. Thank you for sharing that. You sound very devoted to your mother which is also really lovely :)
He doesn't sound like he's worthy to have you in his life either.

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DilemmaEmma2 · 13/10/2023 13:09

Toomanysquishmallows · 13/10/2023 11:00

I’m really glad ex dp has nothing to do with dd1 , he is an arrogant narcissist, and his wife who was the ow has borderline personality disorder. My beautiful dd1 has been so much better off , not having those two and their endless drama in her life .

Did he choose not to have any contact?

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MsMarch · 13/10/2023 13:14

LisaVanderpump1 · 13/10/2023 11:04

I stopped wanting to have contact with my dad when he pleaded poverty which meant that my sister and I went without while he lived in a big house and drove a Merc. He'd do all sorts of things to try and psych out my mum which left all of us feeling unsettled/scared.

He tried to make contact with me a couple of years ago and we spoke briefly on the phone. He wanted to brush everything under the rug and said "all of us didn't act very well" (I was about 10 when him and my mum split). If after 25 years you're going to contact me and still not take responsibility and apologise, I have FA interest.

I recognise this. Well done for not buying it. My BIL has never taken responsibility for his actions and I'm constantly surprised, and slightly worried, about how his DC have accepted him back into their lives.

Toomanysquishmallows · 13/10/2023 13:25

@DilemmaEmma2 , he just stopped calling one day , we didn’t hear from him for months . He phoned my mum on dd,s birthday, then nothing , dd hasn’t seen him for 19 years.

Rainingagain56 · 13/10/2023 13:36

He massively robbed all I'd ever worked for on divorcing me by co-ercion, I didn't realise at the time.
She's sees me still working when he's denied me my retirement...

NiceUnusualDifferent · 13/10/2023 13:58

piscofrisco · 19/09/2023 10:56

Mine are in the process of stopping speaking to their Father. He insists on them spending time with his girlfriend and her kids and they don't like her, or them. And as late teenagers the worst thing you can do is force them to do something they've said ad finitum they don't want to do.
He would be better if he introduced them more gradually and organically rather than saying, 'right we are going to be one big family now', because that has got their backs up from the get go.
I've told them they need to be polite, and wear it, but other than that I'm staying out of it-not my circus, not my monkeys.

Absolutely identical situation with mine. It's baffling

Fifireee · 13/10/2023 14:15

They arrived to see him one weekend and found all their things in bin bags. He had moved his gf in and her kids had their room. They had to sleep on the sofa.

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