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Divorcing my sister

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Queenofscones · 17/09/2023 10:11

I think the time has come to cut ties with my DS. I've been awake for much of the past night worrying about it. It seems so final and so sad. She's my only sibling and my parents died a few years ago. She's the only link to my childhood and past and I feel grief-stricken to think of severing contact, but I don't think I can take much more.

Some background. I'm the oldest by two years. We had a stable upbringing together in a polite sort of family where, even when people disagreed or were upset with each other, they didn't resort to insults or name-calling or hurtful behaviour. My sister and I were never very close. I've searched time and time again for something that happened in our childhood to explain it, but I can't find anything. She has occasionally said that she hated being the little sister. There's nothing I can do about our birth order: I had no control over it. We are different personalities and I suspect she's never really liked me. I feel full of goodwill for her but she's never seemed to feel that way about me. I don't seem to have problems making friends and feeling close to other women and I feel gutted that I can't be friends with my sister.

She's had a nice life viewed from the outside, she's been married, has children and a nice home and steady job, but she doesn't seem like a happy person. She doesn't seem to want to talk about it so we don't go there. We tried to work together to support our elderly parents but whatever I did or suggested was never enough or wrong, often for reasons I could have had no knowledge of without her telling me. We struggled through and made the end of their lives as easy as possible, but I think the experience caused more damage.

That was a few years ago and now we're both getting older and any hopes I had that we would mellow and be able to get over whatever it is between us have faded. She and her husband visited us last summer and there was an uncomfortable atmosphere. I tried to be relaxed and welcoming but my partner observed how angry she was with me: how the volume of her voice went up and she'd jab her finger at me over minor things. He said to me that she was behaving like someone looking for a fight. The more I danced around her, the worse it got. Her husband is a very quiet man who just eats and drinks and smiles politely and seems to me not to want to be involved. I don't blame him.

For the past year we haven't seen each other, partly because I feel quite nervous about being around her. We've talked on the phone every few weeks and I've tried very hard to do a lot of listening and limit my talking, because anything I say seems to wind her up. Earlier this year she started putting the phone down on me if I said anything she didn't agree with, so I resorted to email to stay in touch. But now she's become abusive even on email.

In recent weeks there has been an issue with an elderly family friend who lives quite close to my sister but a long way from me. My sister has stepped in to help. I've tried to support from 300 miles away but she has become steadily more resentful and abusive to me. Everything I say or do, no matter how carefully I phrase it, causes offence. I have almost daily emails telling me that I'm stupid, useless, warped (that was a weird one), cold, disapproving, delusional, out-of-touch, living in a dream world, fat, a millstone around her neck... In some ways it feels like a toddler throwing insults at me randomly, with the intention of causing hurt. I know that when people behave like this it's sometimes because they're hurting, but I can't even ask if she's okay: when I've said I was concerned for her and was she all right she wrote back scathingly, telling me she didn't want my fake concern.

Over the years I've asked on several occasions if she'd like to see if talking to a third party (a family therapist probably) would help us understand each other better. She was furious with me for that. I've also asked her outright what's going on. She's says it's the fact that I can't see what the problem is that's the problem. She's clearly increasingly angry with me and I still, after years of reflection, have no idea what it's about. I sometimes wonder if it's the fact that I exist that's the issue — in which case cutting contact may be the best thing for us both. I still, even knowing this, feel devastated.

OP posts:
OuiRagamuffin · 17/09/2023 12:50

''She's says it's the fact that I can't see what the problem is that's the problem''

I also think that the answer lies in here somewhere. I know my mother said to me ''it makes no sense'' when I was telling her exactly what she was doing to upset me. So from my perspective I was telling her, and she wouldn't hear it.

Is there a difference in how you perceive your childhoods? Two different narratives? Does one narrative serve you at her expense? Although, your parents are dead now so does it matter? I know my brother enjoys the golden child position while I'm the bucket for all their shortcomings. But that would cease to matter after my parents are gone (it does still persist now).

I guess in your shoes I'd leave it a month+ again. and then, when she contacts you again, ask why she feels in one page, why your relationship doesn't work/ makes you both unhappy.

BMW6 · 17/09/2023 12:56

I think your sister has always used you as her punchbag and only keeps contact in order to continue. She doesn't love you - she uses you to vent her spleen.

I can't see her having some filial revelation OP - she's never going to be a loving sibling to you.

If I were you I'd write her a letter spelling out her awful abusive behaviour to you, that you have always loved her and want a better relationship with her, but if she can't or won't drop the nastiness then you will cut her out of your life.

mommatoone · 17/09/2023 13:35

This sounds exhausting OP. I think enough is enough.
Id send her a polite , but assertive email explaining how she makes you feel, and there is no benefit for either of you to remain in contact. Leave it at that.
Personally i would have called her out years ago!

Acheyknees · 17/09/2023 13:54

Could you treat her like you would a child? When she contacts you and is 'nice', take the opportunity to be nice back. But when she emails/calls and is insulting, just nip it in the bud and say 'you're obviously in a bad place today, let's talk once you're feeling better' and put the phone down/send the email. And then leave it, don't engage when she starts criticising, make it obvious you are not there to listen to her criticism.
Reward good behaviour, don't tolerate bad.

Hadalifeonce · 17/09/2023 14:12

Sometimes, OP, you just have to bite the bullet and cut ties. My sister had to do this to her daughter after years of trying to find out what the problem is. I spoke to my nice one day in response to an invitation we had received, lots of general chit chat, but she seemed a bit distant towards me, when I asked if she was OK, I was accused of attacking her.

My sister cut all ties, as have I. My sister is much happier now, she isn't constantly questioning herself and realises my niece has the problem not her.

EbonyRaven · 17/09/2023 14:14

Queenofscones · 17/09/2023 12:32

I still find myself triggered by people who have really good relationships with siblings and who can't understand why I had to do what I had to do.

This... Yes, one of the hardest elements of all this is that my DP has a lovely family. They have their complications and not everyone gets along brilliantly, but they clearly love and appreciate each other and there's none of this hitting out with the intention to hurt. They've accepted me with open arms and my SILs feel more like sisters to me than my own sister does. It sometimes hits me very hard, walking into their homes and being greeted warmly and in a way that my DS never has.

My mum was very loving and managed to maintain friendly and supportive relationships with her siblings and the wider family, so it feels like a personal failure for me that I haven't been able to make things work with DS.

I have just called an old, old friend on her birthday and mentioned that DS and I were going through a terrible time (didn't go into details) and she reminded me that when we were in our late teens and 20s my DS always used to talk about having an inferiority complex — a surprise because she seemed successful and confident and was much better looking that either me or my friend. Maybe it's a clue. Off for a pub lunch now.

It is really difficult when you see people around you with close loving families. I know several families where all the siblings are close, and so are all their children, and they have big BBQs, and a party for something once a month! BFF has 4 siblings - and their partners, and 10 nieces and nephews as well as her own 2 children and DH. Often big gatherings of 20-ish people, sometimes hiring 3 or 4 caravans together on a beach in Wales and having a great time together. Christmases are magical.

There are a few families in my village too, whose oldest members have been here for 90+ years. There are 4 or 5 generations, and they see each other 2 or 3 times a week, they all help with the infirm, and the elderly people in the family who need help, and the cousins and siblings play together, and they also all go away together. I see them regularly, walking around the village in groups of 5 to 10, all together, all family, all love each other.

Whilst I have one sibling and his wife who don't give a shit about me, (and never did,) and a bunch of aunts, uncles, and cousins who treated me like dogshit, and who I am better off without. And I have no parents now either. As I say, I still have DH, my DC and their partners/partner's families who I see quite often, and DH's sister and BIL and their kids, and my 2 great aunts and cousin and his wife and daughter who I see quite often too... but it still stings to see big happy close families of siblings and parents and nephews and nieces...

I do keep reminding myself though, that THIS type of big happy close family, is the exception rather than the rule.

Comparison is the theif of joy and all that fluff! I need to count my blessings! 🙄Grin

Hope you enjoyed your pub lunch @Queenofscones Grin

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