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Partner living with ex

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classicoverthinker · 31/08/2023 10:51

So, I'm in an unusual situation to say the least.

I started dating a man earlier this year - and up front he told me he still shares a house with his ex-wife. They've been trying to sell the house for a while and have had offers but they've fallen through. He is desperate to sell, can't afford to buy her out - but they remain friends. Initially I thought this was a good sign - if a man can stay friends with his ex that means he is a good un. I've had dates with men who've right off the bat talked badly about their exes which has warned me off them (it takes two and all that).

I trust my bf and accept the situation. I took a deep breath and decided to be open-minded and just to take things slowly to assess what the truth really is/was.

I completely believe him when he says he no longer is in love with her and doesn't have romantic feelings. He can't wait to sell the house and move on with his life - and we've talked about a future together.

She has a bf now - for context.

It's not ideal - but as long as everyone is grown up about it, then fine. Until she started playing up. Having temper tantrums whenever I was there and causing a fuss about silly things. I have been nothing but friendly, kind and reasonable and my bf agrees - while at the same time, I've been trying to respect my own feelings and boundaries. He was deeply embarrassed by her behaviour towards me and apologised and had a word with her.

Long story short - I can like her but don't trust her. She appears to be someone who is used to getting my bf's attention and does it by acting up.

My bf doesn't like conflict at all and often tries to smooth the waters and I worry that sometimes he puts her feelings above my own. I have told him that I would have a problem with this - if push comes to shove and he has to make a decision where either her feelings are hurt, or mine are - I would hope he'd make the right decision.

I completely understand his position - tbh, he reminds me of myself when I was in a similar position where I tried to keep the peace between people and ended up being a bit of a doormat. I've learnt since to say No, and have strong boundaries and know that you can't keep everyone happy all the time.

I have already put some boundaries in place. EG - they both used to call each other all the time about stupid stuff - relating to the house etc. I've asked that while she is with her bf and I'm with mine, that maybe they respect us and not do that - only to call in an emergency and use text otherwise. What they do in their own time is up to them - but I think with a new relationship, listening while your SO talks to their ex is a bit unsettling at the best of times.

Another boundary I put in place was - every time we went somewhere, he would say "Oh yes, me and ex's name came here and we did this." He's travelled a lot - so pretty much there isn't a place he hasn't been to without her. I tolerated it for a long time - and then when she was a cow to me, I brought it up and told him, very calmly, how it made me feel. Again he was really understanding and said he needs to "reprogramme his habits". I think it is just that - he's got into a habit of talking about her.

I am actually very careful about bringing up ex's. If I do talk about a place I went to with an ex - I say "We did this" and don't mention the name - just to keep it vague.

Sorry, this is long and rambling. I'm now at the point though where I can't work out if I'm being reasonable or not or whether I am feeling jealous.

Obviously they have a long history together and it bothers me a bit that they see each other every day. I feel as I said before that he is a bit weak - and she only has to stamp her foot and he'll oblige. Which makes me feel nervous.

He tells me he loves me every day - but more than that, his actions are always reassuring and supportive and tell me he is in the relationship with me for the long term.

But I have noticed he is very reliant on her.

When she was being a nightmare, I did tell him "look, if she continues to act this way then I don't want a future with her in it. I've spent a long time cultivating a balanced, peaceful life and choose people to spend time with who are kind and reasonable - and not creating drama all the time".

He understands completely. But I still have this uneasy feeling at the pit of my stomach.

I guess if I am being honest - I just don't want her around or in his life. Obviously that isn't going to happen until the house sells which could be some time. I worry that even if we did end up living together, he is actually more reliant on her than he admits - and he'll still be messaging her about stuff.

I wonder if this makes me controlling though. If he reassures me he loves me - and I don't doubt it, should I just allow things to be. Accept that she is around - and just try to rise above it. Which I am doing.

But the effort to constantly have to rise above and pretend this is a normal situation - and pretend I'm okay with it when I'm not. I'm wondering if I've been an idiot - should I stick it out and hope that once the house is sold things will be better - or should I just walk away?

Or should I be more assertive - be more like her and stamp my foot a bit more to get what I want?

Bring on the advice!

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Bebosally · 31/08/2023 10:56

I don't think you're being unreasonable at all, nor jealous.

I would worry that he might still have feelings for her, though. Especially when he mentions her name in the context of having visited a place before with her. He really doesn't need to mention that. It is quite easy to say that he has been somewhere before, without mentioning who he went with!

nevynevster · 31/08/2023 11:02

Are you his first relationship since the split? My bf had a habit of saying "wife" rather than "ex" and a few other things like that and they didn't even live together. She was IMHO overfamilar as an ex and constantly calling or popping over.
I didn't make a fuss but kept gently pointing things out to him and encouraged him to set boundaries and reassured him that these boundaries are normal and valid!
You didn't say if he has kids with her. If not as soon as the house is sold they'll have nothing to talk about so I reckon it's short lived if they can accept selling the house at a discount to get it moving

classicoverthinker · 31/08/2023 11:04

@Bebosally I have asked him about this and he has reassured me he doesn't have feelings for her at all, other than of course caring about her as a friend. He says they are like room mates. I don't think reasonably you can stop caring about an ex. I still care about my ex-husband but that doesn't mean I want to get back with him.

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ConnieTucker · 31/08/2023 11:06

Are they actually divorced?

are you actually going round to her house?!

the boundary you should have in place is not dating men who live with their ex’s.

classicoverthinker · 31/08/2023 11:07

@nevynevster yes - first proper relationship and he does say all the right things - about how he is lucky to have me etc. They don't have kids no but they do have a pet - and there's talk of sharing it after the move. But there are logical reasons that won't happen. However she is heavily involved in other areas of his life with certain groups and clubs. I have told him that this doesn't feel comfortable for me. If she could be detached and show signs of not being so involved with him it wouldn't bother me a jot.

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ConnieTucker · 31/08/2023 11:09

classicoverthinker · 31/08/2023 11:07

@nevynevster yes - first proper relationship and he does say all the right things - about how he is lucky to have me etc. They don't have kids no but they do have a pet - and there's talk of sharing it after the move. But there are logical reasons that won't happen. However she is heavily involved in other areas of his life with certain groups and clubs. I have told him that this doesn't feel comfortable for me. If she could be detached and show signs of not being so involved with him it wouldn't bother me a jot.

Youre constantly asking two other people to change what they are doing to suit you. After a few months of dating.

Why choose a relationship with someone when you do not like what is happening in it? You cannot change it. This is his life.

Bebosally · 31/08/2023 11:09

Well, at the end of the day, you cannot control her behaviour, only your response to it.

sodthesodoff · 31/08/2023 12:04

How long were they together and when did they actually split up?

You've been together what eight months and she's a constant presence in your relationship

He sounds like a wet wipe to be honest. Who takes calls from their ex when they are no kids involved or emergencies in front of their partner?

He's saying all the right things. And nodding along when you say you're upset. But he's continuing to live in his ex's pocket. Literally and metaphorically.

You're not being unreasonable. He's either ready for a new relationship or not. Doesn't look like he is.

BishopBrennansArseHole · 31/08/2023 12:10

Why would you even bother putting yourself in this situation?
A lot of big talk about you having boundaries. You clearly don’t.

CrunchingNumbers · 19/04/2024 16:32

He's absolutely not ready for a new relationship...and you come across as needy and jealous, probably because your gut instinct is telling you that this isn't right. Which it isn't.

Sweeties1989 · 19/04/2024 17:18

I lived with my ex for 3 years and was in a new relationship. He never camw to the house because it would have been so cringe. I get on fine with my ex but i dont talk about or reminicse the relationship.

My new bf on the other hand was always my ex this and that. We went here. My ex made this. My ex ia doing that. It was infuriating after a while and they shared no kids or mortgage. It was a choice to check in and check the other was ok.

3 years after they split up and 18 months into our relationship she was still messaging him saying hows you xxx hed reply im ok how are you xxx

The 3 kisses bothered me. It felt so disrespectful! I do text my ex about the kids etc. We try be a team still for them. We get on. But i always fully respect my new boyfriend.

I think these situations are so common now because of the cost of life and renting etc isnt possible on one wage alot of the time. But also as i always say we have phones to thank for these new ways of life where it has become completely acceptable to tell your partner you will be continuing to stay in your exes life. Its unhealthy and we are the first bunch of adulta going through. How i now envy our grandparents and their relationships being sacred.

DaughterNo2 · 19/04/2024 17:21

Very odd if you are going round to their house tbh.

ChristmasFluff · 19/04/2024 18:13

My ex-H and I did not hate eachother (and are good friends now), but divorcing just makes things 100% awkward. Living together whilst we divorced was a terrible time. We certainly weren't texting eachother and although we tried to be friendly (we have a son), it was impossble whilst we lived together - we mostly avoided eachother and once my son was in bed I retreated to my bedroom.

I firmly believe that exes cannot truly be friends until some time has passed and there is space between them.

For people to still be so connected - when are they going to separate?

I would not get involved in this. I remember I got to know eachother over a couple of months out socially, and then went on a date whilst still living with the ex - but when I explained the situation he said he wasn't comfortable with continuing. I didn't understand then, but I do now - he was an emotionally healthy person who understood that things are WAAY too complicated when exes are still living together.

I'd let this one go and find someone who is truly available for a relationship with you - without all the baggage and complications.

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