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My 16 year old DD has a dodgy boyfriend

39 replies

Dodgyboyfriend · 23/08/2023 03:26

I'm so worried. Not sure if I should post here or in teens as I'm not sure what I should do as a parent.

We're from UK but live abroad. My lovely 16 yo DD has started seeing a very dodgy guy. He's 19, works as a waiter in a restaurant and gets a room above the restaurant. I haven't quite understood his background, it's a mix of local but als western, apparently went to school in western country, dropped out at 16 and a couple of years ago he moved here and works as a waiter in this touristy part of the city (I guess because he speaks fluent English).

He is VERY good looking, all about fitness and his social media is all about showing this off. Seems quite narcisstic to me but I guess a lot of young people do this.
However, all of this would be OK - totally prepared to give people a chance and the main thing is character and this is where the real concern begins.

My older DD knows about this guy, he dated a friend of hers, and he's meant to be abusive and a pathological liar. So that's a red flag.

He's got this story that he has lung cancer (as a teenager)? But he smokes and he seems in excellent health. DD says he can't get treatment in the country we're in when I asked if he was being treating. Of course it could be true but the chances of a teen getting lung cancer are fleetingly tiny and then being in such good health and having this story and not having treatment? And to be smoking too??? Another red flag.

But the worst thing here is that they had an argument a couple of weeks ago. Apparently, he yelled at her to get out and when she was going to do so, he held her wrists to stop her leaving. She told this to her older sister who told us. She said seh was scared and he held her wrists so tight that he left a mark and that he was laughing at that. DD said she decided to leave him after that.

However.....she's gone back to him. He called and called and apologized. I've spoken to DD since then but she says older DD is exaggerating and that it wasn't as bad as it's being made out to be. Of course, this is classic minimizing and I do believe that it was as bad as she originally reported to older DD.

I am SO worried and I don't know what to do for the best. She's 16, I still have some control and leverage over her as her parent. But I don't want to create a situation where I'm forcing this on her. I want her to come to the realization of how fucked up this is. She's most insistent that she's told him it'll never rhappen again and she'll leave if it does. I'm terrified something worse might happen.
How do I keep my DD safe? How do I open her eyes to the severity of what happened? Is there any possibility this was a one-off (I find it hard to imagine, especially given it is SO early on in the relationship).

She wants to go see him after school today. i've told her no, that he can come to us where at least i"m around (working from home today) so I know she won't come to any harm. We'll see if she does what I ask...

OP posts:
jeaux90 · 23/08/2023 08:13

It sounds like she is starting to see sense so carry on, keep chipping away and yes speak to the school.

What are the plans for her? Will she be away to university or college in the next two years? It's a good argument about her just having fun and focusing on her studies for now, putting her future first etc....basically not wasting time on this dude who seemingly is only interested in eroding her boundaries.

Mintyt · 23/08/2023 08:35

I think you just have done everything right. She knows your concerned but supportive, she will see it herself hopefully. You need to play the long game

Dodgyboyfriend · 23/08/2023 08:46

jeaux90 · 23/08/2023 08:13

It sounds like she is starting to see sense so carry on, keep chipping away and yes speak to the school.

What are the plans for her? Will she be away to university or college in the next two years? It's a good argument about her just having fun and focusing on her studies for now, putting her future first etc....basically not wasting time on this dude who seemingly is only interested in eroding her boundaries.

Yes! And she wants to study medicine so will need excellent grades, as well as volunteering and preparing for ucat/bmat. So she really won't have much time for boyfriends if she keeps her focus and ambition.

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WaitingPainting · 23/08/2023 11:45

Dodgyboyfriend · 23/08/2023 07:46

@WaitingPainting
confidentiality. this is highly personal and quite detailed. if somehow this gets picked up for whatever reason by the tabloid press or someone who knows us reads ths. saying the country would be highly outing

Fair enough and I guess this is the type of situation where it's harder to disguise ages etc as they are relevant. I'd asked about the country as we raised our kids in several different countries and I was often surprised at quite how different they were.

Dodgyboyfriend · 25/08/2023 15:36

She ended it!!

Partly I bribed her (not sure best parenting move but I was trying anything) and partly she told her friend group - mixed boys and girls - what had happened (true version not the.disney version) and they've unanimously told her he's bad news and to get rid (plus another red flag - he was jealous she was hanging out with boys)

I am so relieved!!!!! Just got to keep her strong now as I'm sure he's going to do anything to manipulate her to get back with him.

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Fraaahnces · 25/08/2023 15:46

Well, that’s a relief! I’d be doing my best to ensure that she is never alone walking home, etc. It sounds potentially like the kind of place where you could pay someone bigger and scarier to give him a “talking to” if required. (I wouldn’t be above doing this to protect my kids.)

scoobysnaxx · 25/08/2023 15:55

Good girl!

Give her heaps and heaps of praise and positive reinforcement!

Many women don't take decisions like this or find it hard. Let alone at her age!

I'm sure you've told her you're proud of the strong woman she is for doing that.

DiaNaranja · 25/08/2023 16:20

Dodgyboyfriend · 25/08/2023 15:36

She ended it!!

Partly I bribed her (not sure best parenting move but I was trying anything) and partly she told her friend group - mixed boys and girls - what had happened (true version not the.disney version) and they've unanimously told her he's bad news and to get rid (plus another red flag - he was jealous she was hanging out with boys)

I am so relieved!!!!! Just got to keep her strong now as I'm sure he's going to do anything to manipulate her to get back with him.

That's great news op, bet you're so relieved. I have two much younger dds, and the thought of them dating potentially dubious boys terrifies me, but I know one day, their decisions will be out of my hands, and all we can do is hope and pray they make good choices. I know at that age, I would have done the complete opposite of what my mum had told me, so it's such a difficult situation to handle, and obviously your dad's safety is paramount. Thank goodness she's seen her worth, and left him. Sounds like she's got a great bunch of friends to give sound advice, that at least she may listen to!

EskSmith · 25/08/2023 16:30

Morewineplease10 · 23/08/2023 06:11

She's 16. Not 18.
Put your foot down and say she can't see him.
I would be very worried too. - Not trying to scare you.
Can you show her some Women's Aid/healthy boundaries info?

Morewineplease10 Spectacularly bad advice, do you have teenagers? You need her to be able to come to you when she needs help - if you ban her from seeing him she can't do this anymore.

Really glad she has seen sense of, sounds like she has a great group of friends :)

And we'll done OP this is such a balancing act, sounds like you played it well :)

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Pinkbonbon · 25/08/2023 17:55

Have her do the freedom program online.

Link her to YouTube videos on how to spot narcissistic abuse.

Doctor ramani on YouTube is good.

FoodFann · 25/08/2023 18:05

What’s the age of consent in the country you’re in? Is it legal for a 19yo and 16yo? Can you tell her school/police?

FoodFann · 25/08/2023 18:05

Dodgyboyfriend · 25/08/2023 15:36

She ended it!!

Partly I bribed her (not sure best parenting move but I was trying anything) and partly she told her friend group - mixed boys and girls - what had happened (true version not the.disney version) and they've unanimously told her he's bad news and to get rid (plus another red flag - he was jealous she was hanging out with boys)

I am so relieved!!!!! Just got to keep her strong now as I'm sure he's going to do anything to manipulate her to get back with him.

Just seen this ! Thank goodness!!

IdealisticCynic · 25/08/2023 18:23

The danger, always, is the ability of abusers to drag their victims back into danger.

If there is any way you could persuade her to read In Control by Jane Monckton Smith, I would recommend it. It sets out the stages of domestic abuse. Seeing, early on, what those signs are and that her ex-boyfriend was displaying them might help her stay away from him.

Also, if your older DD’s friend who dated him would be willing to speak to her about his abuse, that might be good too.

Good luck, OP. This sort of thing is every parent’s nightmare.

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