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How can I help my mum?

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whereonearth · 20/08/2023 15:27

Apologies in advance, this is a novel, so kudos if you read till the end. I guess just writing this down is cathartic.

My dad is 78, my mum is 12 years younger and very much still in her prime.
My dad is mentally ill. He has always had mental health problems, but in the last 5 years or so it has spiralled. Depression.

He hasn't worked for about 35 years (his therapist signed him off work 34 years ago, and that was that.) He was a stay at home dad and looked after me and my sister, but since then he has mostly just stayed in the house (where possible). He used to have some things that he would do in the week (mostly going out to buy stuff he 'collects' ie. hoards) but that all stopped in the last 8 year or so. Literally all he does is sit at home and worries about things.

He has always been quite controlling. He has always been very accomplished at making sure no one does things he doesn't want them to do. He was incredibly strict with me and my sister when we were teenagers, and also very controlling with my mum. He would dictate many things like what we were allowed to do, what kind of holidays we went on (despite not financially contributing to them), that people weren't allowed to come over to our house for playdates... I remember things like him getting moody and cross if my mum went to the gym too often. What it basically boils down to is that he wants to be at home, and he wants everyone else to be at home, too. If you counter the behaviour (which obviously as a rebellious teenager you do), he sulks and goes into a depressive episode and basically just makes everything miserable for everyone.

Unsurprisingly I left home at 18 and eventually moved to another country (the UK), where I still live with my own family.

My mum still works 4 days a week and loves her job, but increasingly it seems like my dad is ramping up his behaviour to find ways to get her to stay at home with him, instead. In recent years he has become a hypochondriac, and has various obsessions with his health. He'll insist on tests at the GP for all sorts thinking that he has cancer, etc. At the moment he is refusing (mostly) to eat and drink, saying that he feels 'too full' when he does, and has had various tests including an ultrasound, all of which come up clear.

He refuses to go to any health related appointments alone, so of course my mum needs to stay home from work to go with him. If there's no appointment, he'll have a panic attack and call her to come home. He'll wake her up in the middle of the night with panic attacks, and basically just go on an on about his health at her.

She facilitates getting him health appointments and the like, and I feel like she enables his behaviour by engaging with it, but she is getting to a crisis point with it herself now. Today my sister asked them to come into town to see her and her baby; and my dad refused to go anywhere, and then also forbids my mother from going by herself. She called my sister crying; and then quickly hangs up when my dad appears. She'll talk to us about it via whatsapp, but only when pushed.

My mum is so brainwashed with it all - I understand that this is a form of coercive control. Ironically he is financially dependent on her - she is very financially secure and could literally buy a flat tomorrow to get away from him - but she doesn't. He guilt trips her a lot - "if it was me, I'd never leave you, I can't believe you don't even care about how badly I'm doing, if you leave I'll kill myself". They've been together for almost 45 years, I understand it's not easy.

I genuinely don't know how to help my mum. It doesn't help that my dad truly cannot cope on his own.

Me and my sister have now insisted that my mom makes an appointment with the GP herself and insist that something needs to happen because she can't cope anymore. I am also considering calling the equivalent of adult social care where they live to see what can be done. Other than that, I have no idea. It just seems like a problem with no solution, and has done for years.

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 20/08/2023 15:37

Am so sorry but you can only help your own self ultimately by not repeating what either parents have done.

Your sister and you can insist all you like but she is an adult with agency. She likely gets what she wants out of the dysfunctional and codependent relationship she has with your dad and she’s not going to change readily, if at all. You cannot help anyone who ultimately does not want to be helped.

Ofcourseshecan · 20/08/2023 15:56

Would your mum consider moving out? Away from his coercion, she might be able to persuade him to see a mental-health specialist and take control of his own life.

I’m sure he would threaten to harm himself etc, so she would need to stay strong and have solid backing from the family.

Best of luck to you and her.

Anothernamethesamegame · 20/08/2023 17:31

I don’t think you can do any more than what you have suggested. Advise her to seek help, maybe even from a domestic abuse organisation. However ultimately she needs to take the steps to get some freedom herself. Sounds like you do as much as you can. It’s a behaviour and relationship dynamic deeply ingrained after so long.

Protect yourself as much as possible .

whereonearth · 20/08/2023 17:47

Thanks all, I really appreciate the replies. It sounds very dark but I think she is just quietly waiting around, hoping he'll die at some point and that at that point she can live the rest of her life. But that's obviously not healthy for anyone.
I try to remove myself from it as much as I can. But obviously don't want to be in a situation either where my sister ends up with all the fall-out by herself since she lives closer.

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Elieza · 22/08/2023 20:16

Your poor mum.

Is there any way one of you could have some reason why you needed your mum to come stay for a few days?

Say a broken hand or something that you need help to do stuff.

Once she’s there she might relax a bit. You could tell her to switch her phone off and tell your dad to instead ring you if he needs her. Which he inevitably will.
At which point you can tell him to phone and ambulance for whatever shite emotionally blackmailing reason he’s become injured. And not involve her.

Elieza · 22/08/2023 20:16

ie after a break she may see the light.

whereonearth · 23/08/2023 10:34

@Elieza thank you, that is quite a good idea, maybe that's something to try if the GP plan goes nowhere.

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midlifecrash · 23/08/2023 12:25

whereonearth · 20/08/2023 17:47

Thanks all, I really appreciate the replies. It sounds very dark but I think she is just quietly waiting around, hoping he'll die at some point and that at that point she can live the rest of her life. But that's obviously not healthy for anyone.
I try to remove myself from it as much as I can. But obviously don't want to be in a situation either where my sister ends up with all the fall-out by herself since she lives closer.

He may well outlive her, as he has decreased stress in his own life and created it for everyone else. Perhaps point this out. You could ask her if there are arrangements in place if she predeceases him, as under no circumstances will you or your sister live with him or provide care. That might shift her perspective a bit.

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