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How to go about separation

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Downbutnotout11 · 19/08/2023 03:26

Recently blindsided by wife of 15 years ( 3 DSs 4,8) suggesting to separate amicably over what’sapp, when I was visiting my parents with kids!

Things ( communication, intimacy etc) were not great between us for a few years now . I suggested therapy, she was not keen. I honestly thought she was having mental health issues that she doesn’t want me involved in resolving it . Naively went along and thought it will get better with time, my love etc.

Partly I have my ego to blame,I contribute significantly more financially to the household , paid for her residential post graduation, supported her career , took care of kids when she needed hols with girl friends to clear her head every year . Do 50% of household chores , kids pickups, homework’s etc.

Looking back now there were clear signs that she had checked out of marriage a while back. I was too smug a devoted husband/father to notice.

Now some very obvious signs of infidelity have emerged. I was going confront on my return,I have a feeling the rushed separation notice is to avoid the discussion .

The dilemma I have is that we have acted as a normal couple with all our family & friends. My parents love her and like wise between me and in-laws . Most of her friends became our friends.

Should I establish infidelity ( it’s not difficult as there are so many holes in her story of the 4 day work trip) and be honest with everyone around us on my side of the story, which will help get support that I will need for a 50/50 children split.
or
Just say it’s a mutual decision, we fell apart over the years etc..so my boys never hear about it and helps to keep things amicable for co parenting . The problem however is that everyone will assume that I instigated it, not worked hard enough or infidelity , unfortunately in our wider circle men have been the perpetrators every single time.

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Downbutnotout11 · 19/08/2023 03:38

typos
-2Ds not 3
-get the support I need for 50/50
retain the friends and social support structure that have been built over the years to help raise the boys in a 50/50 split scenario

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Wakemeup17 · 19/08/2023 03:42

I would say that you are separating amicably on her suggestion. I would not drag infidelity out as it will come back to the boys later on.

DustyLee123 · 19/08/2023 06:34

It doesn’t matter who has done what any more, she wants out, and that’s enough.

Downbutnotout11 · 19/08/2023 13:00

Thanks,
I am under no illusion reg marriage , but the question is, should I take the hit for her and let her keep reputation for the sake of kids.

I am not sure I as big a person , I think I should be.

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always2323 · 19/08/2023 13:31

Downbutnotout11 · 19/08/2023 13:00

Thanks,
I am under no illusion reg marriage , but the question is, should I take the hit for her and let her keep reputation for the sake of kids.

I am not sure I as big a person , I think I should be.

Well who are you to try and destroy some one else's reputation. Especially the mother of your kids! Other people, in laws and friends have nothing to do with this.

She will deny it anyway and it will be said that you're taking digs at her because she doesn't love you anymore.

If she checked out of the relationship ages ago then she has been an unhappy sole for a long time, you haven't made her happy, you can't make her happy for what ever reason.

Split amicably, leave her be, and you get to be happy with some one else in the future.

Catlover100 · 19/08/2023 16:20

It's a tough one but I think for your kids' sake be the bigger person and say you are splitting amicably.

I did it myself so I know how hard it is because it can feel like your ex has 'got away with it' and it can make you feel bitter but you have to fight these feelings.

My kids were early teens when we split and I wanted them to get through it as unscathed as possible so as their mum I decided to take the hit. Their dad and I now co-parent well and it's as amicable as we can make it.

I did, however, tell all to my parents. They are quite old and very traditional in their views of marriage so I needed them to understand that infidelity was the real reason we had to split up. I know that they will never tell my kids about it. They live miles from us so it wasn't like they were going to be seeing my ex around and they weren't close to him either.

Good luck, it's tough and you have to develop a thick skin but if you can avoid anger and drama it's so much better for your kids in the long run because just their parents splitting up is enough for them to cope with.

Downbutnotout11 · 19/08/2023 21:36

@always2323 not sure if I articulated/ you understood my dilemma well. It’s not about being vindictive , but being honest with my side of the story to closest friends / family for self preservation . I don’t think anyone has the right to take that away .

Thanks @Catlover100 makes sense and is the right thing to do. The kids are the only good thing that has come out of this and I should rightly do my best to leave them unscathed .
Yes there is bitterness about ‘getting away with it’, but can’t be more than the damage to kids.

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HoliHormonalTigerLillyTheSecond · 20/08/2023 09:21

Can you talk to a councillor op?

greyhairnomore · 20/08/2023 09:54

I'd try and put on a united amicable front to family , but absolutely let her know if you have proof of an affair.

AgentJohnson · 20/08/2023 10:07

I would call her out on her behaviour and I wouldn’t say it was amicable either. However, I wouldn’t go public with my suspicions, people will draw their own conclusions when the inevitable crawls out of the woodwork.

Downbutnotout11 · 22/08/2023 21:22

Thanks @HoliHormonalTigerLillyTheSecond

@AgentJohnson , @greyhairnomore

I am seeing a therapist , which is helping and planning to keep it as amicable as possible .

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AgentJohnson · 23/08/2023 09:33

It takes two to be amicable and you have no control over the other party. Aim for for neutrality on your side and practice disengagement.

Downbutnotout11 · 23/08/2023 14:46

Thanks , that’s a valid/good point . Hope someday all this is a distant memory and I can live in peace. It would be difficult to trust anyone in near future .

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