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Do people always discover affairs

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Catskidsandme · 29/07/2023 12:22

Hi everyone,

For a long long time my marriage has been stale and lonely. I have tried to address this with dh many times, taking on board what we both say and want and coming at it from an angle that its both of us. In the beginning I assumed it was lost in the chaos of dc, work and general busy life but now im confused and for some time have suspected an affair.

Dh barley acknowledges my existence unless its to ask me something about dc or the running of the home.
He is never fully present with me. He is sometimes with the dc but prefers to be busy doing. He does pull his weight around the home and with childcare. He is not unkind just distant.
He never looks at me apart from the rare occasion when he wants sex. Its infrequent.
There is no affection, conversation or rapport between us.
I have to follow him around to try and chat to him and I get no response, im often ignored or get a grunt. He sometimes eye rolls or sighs.
He turns away from me, especially in bed. He sits with earphones in once dc are in bed.
He pretty much treats me like im invisible or just an appliance looking after the dc.
I have never felt so unloved and lonley and its beginning to affect my self esteem.

We have had a number of discussions about this. Its always initiated by me. He does not seem to care and never brings up wanting to fix the relationship. He would be happy to plod on like it is. During these discussions he says he is also unhappy but never comes up with fixes and says he is this way because I am. That makes no sense because its me who puts in all the effort to connect. He says he wants to stay married, loves me and wants us to be happy. Things never change though. Its all one sided.

I recently admitted to him that id been having treatment for an illness that id kept to myself. I had told him I was working late when I was in hospital. The reason I didn't say anything is because im embarrassed that since childbirth he is disgusted with my body and I didn't want to add to that. He was really hurt and said this is an example of me not making an effort in the relationship. The thing is I have lost a considerable amount of weight due to the pain of the illness and the stress of life. I feel awful about my body. On a recent family holiday I made a comment that I thought I looked ok in my swimwear but was upset about some areas due to the weightloss. He looked at my stomach and grimaced. During the rare times we have sex he says im sexy but out of that nothing. Its been weeks since I told him about the hospital stay and he hasn't asked once if all is going ok or if im feeling better.
I did say that I don't feel able to come to him with problems or worries because he either doesn't listen or will turn it round to be about him. He is really the last person I would call in an emergency or come to for support and help which is sad. I don't have anyone else in my life so I usually deal with anything alone. I used to go to him but its exhausting when you get disinterest or even a disagreement when you do.

I have asked about affair. It just seems so likely. Hes not interested in us and is glued to his phone.
I just can't see when he would find time though as he is only ever at work or home. I have no other proof. He obviously denies it.

I know my marriage is dead but I cant understand why his actions don't follow his words. I feel like I need a reason, such as affair, to find closure.

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Yusay · 29/07/2023 14:42

I could have written your post OP, except in my case I’ve put on a bit of weight, instead of lost it.

I’ve pondered the affair thing, the ‘is my husband gay thing’ etc. I’ve done a bit of reading around narcissism and my conclusion has been that DH is not having an affair or gay, he is simply not in love with me anymore and perhaps never was. When I was young, fit, successful, well off and glamorous he admired me and had higher self-esteem being with me. I was objectively very “cool”. A couple of decades later and I’m unemployed, much hairier, heavier, tireder and poorer and he just doesn’t admire me anymore or have much interest in me. But, I assume he doesn’t want to have to pay for two households or only see his children on weekends. If we split up, he’d be a weekend Dad and I’d get the house plus half his money/pension. He’d rather continue to live together as housemates, get his laundry/cooling/cleaning/childcare done, and play on his phone.

It’s so lonely I know, and very hard when you remember how it used to be. But you can’t make someone love you.

I see little point leaving, I too have some health problems, I doubt I’d find (or want) a new relationship at my age, particularly after this crushing experience. So, no rush, I’ll go back to work and try to become more financially independent and if things haven’t improved by the time DC leave home, perhaps I’ll leave then.

Catskidsandme · 29/07/2023 15:15

Im so sorry @Yusay that your going through the same. Its horrible.
You sound amazing. Its their loss.
Practically it is easier to stay. Im lucky that I earn more than dh despite working less. Id want to sell this house anyway as I never wanted it and it was all him. I have dreams of moving to a smaller place perfect for me and dc where I can have a small garden for my plants. Sad as it sounds.
Id too get the dc full time because as I said I work much less, I prioritised them but managed to still claw my way up the career ladder. Dh likes to "remind" me he helped me do that ha thats just not true, if anything he hindered it. It must be difficult for you having to give up work and being so unwell. Your still worth happiness. Its definitely him not you.

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Whataretheodds · 29/07/2023 15:24

Trying to understand why someone had stopped loving you/doesn't want to be with you is a thankless, often impossible task.

We hear it all the time, one party desperately searching for a reason, when the truth is that there rarely is one that will satisfy the need.

Sometimes you just have to accept that it's run its course, you no longer have a workable relationship (as PP said 4 major red flags).

You deserve better. That may be single, it may mean having other romantic attachments. But you won't get better with him and you're correct that this is not modelling a healthy relationship for your daughters

Onlinetherapist · 29/07/2023 21:20

@Catskidsandme Just out of interest, if you don’t mind me asking, what age are you and what age are the children? X

Catskidsandme · 29/07/2023 21:25

Why do you ask @Onlinetherapist?
Im early 30s dc are mid and late primary.

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Catskidsandme · 29/07/2023 21:26

Sorry dh is slightly older.

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Flymetothetoon · 29/07/2023 21:31

In my experience I definitely discovered HIS affair but have never had HIM discover mine. Maybe it's just females being better at hiding stuff rather than 'Billy Big Bollox' men having to shout.
This is about a relationship years ago btw.

Onlinetherapist · 29/07/2023 21:40

@Catskidsandme I was just thinking about any advice and then wondering about life stages, whether they were very young or coming up to exams etc..just practicalities I suppose if you were to leave..

Catskidsandme · 29/07/2023 21:47

Ah ok @Onlinetherapist i think we are in a pretty settled period in pur life right now. Although I have a dd who will struggle with any change and my other dd is a real dh girl. I feel awful about that. Its the only thing keeping me hear at this point.

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