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Ex's new wife

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Timbershiver · 28/07/2023 00:33

Apologies, quite a long one. Well l'm currently annoyed with myself for caring tbh but unfortunately like many abuse survivors the past and associated memories creep up in the most unexpected and unwelcome ways. My violent ex had no real interest in his child when we were together, and once l fled his rare desire to see his child was used primarily to intimidate and control me still. His interest fizzled out and only returned once he was aware l had a new partner.

Luckily l very rarely see him or his wife. ( The occasions l have seen him have made me feel physically sick sometimes still.)
Unfortunately, as per with new partners of abusers his wife has been spoon fed the parental alienation line, and of course the abuse l suffered and that was witnessed by my child has been omitted.

I've unfortunately recently been made aware by a well meaning friend that his current wife has been discussing the issue again and that l have been have once again criticised in very strong terms. Our child has voiced their own opinions for many years, and has had appropriate counselling, and various options regarding contact over the years with me remaing neutral. ( Very difficult under the circumstances.) Our child is an adult now.

Now of course I'm very aware that his wife has relied on information from my ex, however l do have to wonder why she has never wondered why he refused mediation/ contact centre/court/using a solicitor or even basic contact of his own accord? He only started wanting contact once again when he began a relationship with her, and when as it turns out, they were about to marry, and waned once it had taken place. They have had a child, both events of which his first child was not informed.
(In fact at the time before the wedding that we were unaware of his girlfriend, now wife, turned up out of the blue, my child having had no contact from her father, to our home, creating. Ironically apparently she is a childcare professional, regardless of which it is innapropriate in any circumstances.)

I did try to explain to her at the time the situation, and that the police had put a panic alarm in my property due to various incidents and cctv but she wouldn't believe me, but she was so full of anger and unwarranted hate that l don't think she was in a rational state. Perhaps they are well suited?!

It makes me upset after all this time the way in which l am portrayed still. I did wonder if perhaps she was now experiencing similar abuse? Of course despite my annoyance at her behaviour l certainly hope not for her and her childs sake. Perhaps criticising me still deflects from her issues?

My life is settled, happy and fulfilled, and of course l am thankful every day that l escaped, so why on earth do l feel irritated by his wife, someone who doesn't know me, and who's opinions are based on someone who is supposed to love her, but has lied to her for years? I have had to politely ask my friend not to divulge any more details of either of their lives, although l think they feel they are being helpful/loyal, and of course are also trying to make sense of a very uncomfortable situation, which makes no rational sense to those who haven't suffered abuse.

Sadly l should imagine l am one of many on MN and elsewhere who feel the same at times, l have heard of so many similar situations and stories over time, but now it's happening to me and it's been surprisingly draining emotionally.

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NewNameNigel · 28/07/2023 00:52

You were taken in enough by your ex to have children with him. Surely you can understand why she might also be taken by him. She's as much a victim as you were.

Timbershiver · 28/07/2023 00:58

Yes of course l do understand that, l think l did refer to that, l think it's more that l am annoyed that I'm upset still if that makes sense? Probably depressing deep down that someone else may be going through the same? ( I personally however would not go uninvited to anyone's property ranting no matter what l had been told).

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Italiangreyhound · 28/07/2023 01:52

@Timbershiver I am sorry this is so hard.

I am assuming you had some counselling long ago, but maybe you need some more to let these feelings go.

Remember you got out and she is still in that relationship, she is the one to pity.

However, you are right to cut all ties with that situation and make sure your friend does not tell you anything about either of them or what they are saying.

Good luck.

Ofcourseshecan · 28/07/2023 02:05

I wouldn’t pity someone as ignorantly aggressive as the ex’s wife. I do pity the children in her care, but there’s nothing you can do for them.

He and she seem well matched in their unpleasantness, and I’m sorry they are still hurting you. Do consider having more counselling to break their power over you. They are irrelevant to your and DC’s lives, as are the people who are gullible enough to believe their lies.

Timbershiver · 28/07/2023 02:19

Ofcourseshecan · 28/07/2023 02:05

I wouldn’t pity someone as ignorantly aggressive as the ex’s wife. I do pity the children in her care, but there’s nothing you can do for them.

He and she seem well matched in their unpleasantness, and I’m sorry they are still hurting you. Do consider having more counselling to break their power over you. They are irrelevant to your and DC’s lives, as are the people who are gullible enough to believe their lies.

Thank you for the response. Yes l have had some enormously helpful counselling, and l have the most amazingly supportive and protective husband. I think like anyone who has been physically and/or emotionally harmed every now and then it creeps back in for a while. I do feel enormously relieved however that my child is a bright, thriving, driven individual with a fantastic future despite the emotional hardship of the past, and has demonstrated admirably the value of resilience and that family support sometimes has little to do with biology. Perhaps l could learn something from them!

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decaffonlypls · 28/07/2023 03:45

My abusive ex said awful things to his second wife about me. He had kids eow and she would ignore me /look down her nose at me. I just ignored it and felt sorry for her I knew she would learn the hard way. And she did, she left him after about 6 years . If I could have saved her the pain I would have but I knew she wouldn't have listened to me. She is a lot more pleasant if I bump into her these days.

You know the truth as does your dd take the moral high ground.

Timbershiver · 28/07/2023 06:15

decaffonlypls · 28/07/2023 03:45

My abusive ex said awful things to his second wife about me. He had kids eow and she would ignore me /look down her nose at me. I just ignored it and felt sorry for her I knew she would learn the hard way. And she did, she left him after about 6 years . If I could have saved her the pain I would have but I knew she wouldn't have listened to me. She is a lot more pleasant if I bump into her these days.

You know the truth as does your dd take the moral high ground.

Thankyou. I do hope I'm wrong and that he has changed, but it seems very rare sadly. I was quite surprised to learn they were still together, but as those that deal with the cycle and reality of domestic abuse know the longevity of a relationship is not an indication of abuse lessening. However one thing l am very aware of is that the truth always comes out in the end, it sometimes takes years, but it always does. It is a comfort to know others have dealt with this, but my goodness none of us should have had to. I'm glad you are out the other side.

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ivykaty44 · 28/07/2023 06:21

Lies being told bring out this irrational feeling within us, knowing that they are lies & there isn’t a way to correct this with a slippery snake

Timbershiver · 28/07/2023 06:32

ivykaty44 · 28/07/2023 06:21

Lies being told bring out this irrational feeling within us, knowing that they are lies & there isn’t a way to correct this with a slippery snake

This! (The only comfort being l know the truth, and what a horrible way he has to live, as the narcissistic bully/abusers biggest fear is their cowardice being outed in front of family, friends, and co workers. Must always be a slight worry at the back of their minds. I should imagine his wifes extraordinary and utterly innapropriate behaviour would cause a few raised eyebrows to say the least. Good luck to the poor woman.

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