Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Relationships

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

Honest opinions please...

94 replies

Mumofyellows · 22/07/2023 16:23

Long post warning! I'm 41 and have been married to my husband for 3 years, I have a 20 year old daughter firmly previous marriage. He has 2 sounds aged 21 and 14 from his. My daughters Dad emigrated when she was younger and she doesn't really have a relationship with him. My husband has always struggled with my daughter P. She was a bit of a typical teen when we met, messy and grumpy but no trouble and has always been polite and a hard worker both in education and her part time jobs. They never bonded but I accepted that given her age and experience of her own dad being useless she was reluctant to let anyone in aside from me. I get on totally fine with his sons, the youngest strawberry every weekend and we have taken him on holiday.
In The last year or so my husband's perception and ideas around my daughter have become really hard for me to understand and live with. She did a year out before uni and has just finished her first year,and has come home for the summer to work and save before going back in September(she is a 6 hour drive away). He is insistent that she pays rent while she is home for the summer at £200 a month, plus pay for her own food. He does not want her in shared spaces e.g. The lounge and quickly gets into a terrible mood, eye rolling and huffing if she come in to talk to me. I have to pre arrange when she can shower and cook her meals so as not to upset him in case he may want the bathroom or to use the kitchen. Last weekend he refused to attend a wedding because she was invited (it was my best friends wedding who has known her forever!). He constantly goes on about having to share his house and he wished has realised she would still be at home before now. When we met my daughter and I lived in a flat but since then we have moved to a house all together.
My daughter hates him but is extremely good at playing the game and being polite for my same as she knows he will kick off is he perceives her as rude. She gets very upset as feels he is trying to push her out by making life as difficult as possible for her. He absolutely refuses to budge on any of this.
Aside from this he is also a very up and down person. He gets in dark moods frequently about things I do it say, even small things. He was angry with me for catching up with my childhood best friend the other day for the first time I had seen her in 10 years as she lived abroad and came to our town to visit, couldn't understand why I want to "live in the past" and why I didn't invite him, saying he felt I wasn't proud of him and didn't want to show him off to my friend....we literally talked about our horses and dogs and childhood antics for 3 hours I didn't for a minute think he would have wanted to come. He works at home and his very isolated in his work and he literally has 1 frjend where as I am a teacher and also have lots of friends. Income home from work dreading what mood he is going to be in and tip toe around trying not to upset him. We have small periods where we get on great but these are few. He is frustrated with our lack of intimacy but I can't face it when he makes me feel so anxious and puts me in a difficult position as a parent...I just don't know what to do and whether this is something I am being unreasonable about...any thoughts woh!d be hugely welcome as obviously my family and the one friend I have confided in are on my side and love my daughter so are bjased! Thank you in advance x

OP posts:
unsync · 22/07/2023 18:26

He's awful. Why are you still with him? Get rid. ASAP.

Calmdown14 · 22/07/2023 18:29

You are also modelling this type of relationship to your daughter.

How would you feel if in a few years time she marries a man exactly like this and you are not welcome round or to see your grandkids?

Not having a step father relationship with her, fine. Not being able to be civil or treat her like you would anyone staying for a couple of weeks in your house, dreadful.

You will lose her if this continues and your marriage sounds doomed anyway.

MammaTo · 22/07/2023 18:40

It’s shocking that you can let someone treat your daughter like this. Please read this post back and have a think about if this sounds acceptable.
You need to get out now for the sake of your relationship with your daughter. She’s always going to think you’ve put this man above her.

Omma23 · 22/07/2023 18:47

Respectfully OP, your daughter will in all likelihood be moving out for good in the next few years when she leaves uni, but even more so if ‘home’ is a horrible place to be. She may choose to settle near her uni as many people do, which is a long journey away. Your husband is alienating her and to be frank sounds like an awful person to be around. Think carefully. When your daughter moves out and you’re left alone with him for the rest of your life, do you want a situation where your daughter will feel unwelcome and only give fleeting visits? And what if she has children of her own; are you going to miss out on the chance to see your grandchildren grow up because you chose to put your husband’s petty jealousy before your own flesh and blood? Sounds like a lonely way to live out your days IMHO.

Hibiscrubbed · 22/07/2023 18:55

He is appalling. Absolutely appalling. How he is treating your daughter, and you, is unforgivable.

YouDontBringMeFlowers · 22/07/2023 18:59

Are you that weak and desperate for a man you tolerate this vile behaviour ?
No wonder our young women have such low self esteem with role models like you.
I am like a lioness around my sons, I don't allow another man anywhere near, it's not necessary, it serves no purpose. Men are not biologically programmed to raise other people's kids. The selfish prat your living with us is prime example of that.

monsteramunch · 22/07/2023 19:01

Hibiscrubbed · 22/07/2023 18:55

He is appalling. Absolutely appalling. How he is treating your daughter, and you, is unforgivable.

On top of this though, OP allowing her daughter to be treated this way would be unforgivable for some people.

And OP needs to realise that as soon as humanly possible.

By staying with this man, she has chosen him over her daughter.

Her poor daughter will have been hugely damaged emotionally by this experience and deserves an apology from her mum for the choices she has made.

It's heartbreaking.

Breakingpoint1961 · 22/07/2023 19:15

Please get rid of this vile individual. He is making your daughters life, and in turn yours, a misery.

There's not seeing eye to eye, but this goes above and beyond what are personal differences. He will destroy your relationship with you and your daughter.

Do not allow him to do this another second.

MsDogLady · 22/07/2023 19:16

She gets very upset as feels he is trying to push her out by making life as difficult as possible for her.

@Mumofyellows, this is sickening. You are allowing this brute to abuse your own child, as well as yourself. Your industrious daughter who is working hard at her school/jobs is being bullied and sabotaged by this nasty piece of work who treats her like shit on his shoe in her own home. Having to swallow her humiliation to please you and this bastard is hugely damaging.

If you stay with him, you’ll eventually lose your daughter.

As for his controlling, moody, mean-spirited treatment of you, how many more years will you tolerate walking on eggshells and being ground down by a tyrant? Protect yourself and your child and get out now, @Mumofyellows.

Moredrama · 22/07/2023 19:25

OP your DH behaviour is awful! No wonder your daughter feels pushed out, that’s exactly your DHs intention… I wonder how he would react if you made his children feel uncomfortable in your home? Are his children allowed in shared spaces? Does he charge his children rent to stay? …I’m going to go out on a limb and say no.
And the way he is about time with your friends too.
He wants you to himself, so serve him and his children.

If you intend to stay with him, you need to stand you ground.
Do not charge your daughter rent.
Do not allow it to be awkward for her to be in shared space (if he tries to make it awkward, say “come on DD let’s go upstairs/in the kitchen/out” so she doesn’t feel pushed out by you too), your DH won’t like it but it’s tough.
Rise above any childish comments about seeing your friends, or remind him that he didn’t come to a wedding with you so you don’t think a lunch, random meet up with a friend would be of interest to him.

Don't let him isolate you. Take charge now or your DD will avoid visiting and you’ll lose the relationship you have with her, because even if she doesn’t come to the house, your DH clearly won’t want you visiting her home or for lunch either.

jods19 · 22/07/2023 19:29

I'm sorry but this is a massive NO, take this from someone who had this upbringing since 9 years old till I was 18. I was constantly pushed out because I wasn't his DD also one rule for me and different for my sibling (that was his). I actually ended up with bad mental health and constant fear of if I'm doing anything know and not to mention that death didn't scare me at that time because that's how low my mood was. You need to do what's best for your children.. trust me, I know.
I'm 25 now and he's been gone completely for 5 years ( he moved back to his county up north) and myself and my mam and brother have absolutely blossomed since💖

AnneLovesGilbert · 22/07/2023 19:43

Fucking hell. What everyone else has said. Her dad abandoned her and her mum married a nasty abusive bully who’s taking her money and ruining her home life.

It’s impossible to imagine what you’re thinking tbh.

RedDoughnut · 22/07/2023 19:54

I hope this is Troll post.

Poor girl.
Put her first. Divorce the bastard

okiedokie1 · 22/07/2023 20:03

Honest opinion? He's a horrible person.

DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy · 22/07/2023 20:08

I'm horrified that you are allowing this creature to abuse your daughter like this in her own home. What a disturbing horrible read.

User63847484848 · 22/07/2023 20:11

He sounds controlling and very unpleasant
I think you need to seriously reconsider your relationship and tbh I’m surprised it’s not adversely affected your relationship with your daughter more as you’re allowing her to be treated as unwelcome in her own/your home.

DarkDarkNight · 22/07/2023 20:19

Your poor daughter. Why is it acceptable for her to be treat like this in your home? She is treading on eggshells and knows she is not welcome by him in your home. You accept his sons and his youngest stays with you and has been on holiday but he can’t tolerate your daughter. Get angry on your daughter’s behalf, this is unacceptable. Being angry that she was invited to your best friend’s wedding be refusing to go is absolutely terrible behaviour.

It sounds like a miserable existence for you. What are the plus sides of the relationship? There is no intimacy, he is controlling, jealous of your friends, he sulks. You deserve so much more than him.

DreamTheMoors · 22/07/2023 20:31

My dad drank and got unreasonably shitty with me on a weekly basis.
I’ll never forget or forgive my mum for remaining “neutral” and not stepping in on my behalf when she watched him being abusive.
And the really shitty thing is how much I loved them both.

If you somehow think think this will iron itself out or will just go away, you are sadly mistaken. You are her mother. it’s your job to protect her no matter how old she is.
Don’t allow some two-bit bully to mistreat your own daughter under your own roof.

Either throw him out or take your daughter and leave. Be the hero of your own story.

summerisontheway · 22/07/2023 20:36

What do you get out of this one-sided relationship? I would get out now as soon as you can and take your daughter with you. I have never heard before of a family member being banned from the communal areas of the house. He sounds like a total control freak.

Lira715 · 22/07/2023 20:36

he sounds horrible Op, you sound lovely, you can do better than him. He is unreasonably expecting your DD to pay rent and then not be able to treat the house as her own ! I wouldn’t want rent anyway she’s putting it towards her education and is only home for summer.

Time4achange2 · 22/07/2023 20:41

Omg, I can hardly believe what I've just read.

Why the hell are you still with this vile man?

Please leave him, immediately. Your daughter has already been rejected and neglected by her birth father, now subjected to abuse from your husband. Poor girl. Make her your priority.

Greenfree · 22/07/2023 20:44

That sounds an awful way to treat your daughter and your allowing it to happen by not standing up for her! He sounds quite abusive. It sounds like your daughter doesn't really have a home she can relax in and that's awful.

Catoo · 22/07/2023 20:47

Holy shit OP. Read your post back.
How have you allowed him to treat your daughter like this? Will he be like this with his children when they are at Uni?

Tell him immediately that this has to stop, or you will LTB. Or just LTB.

FFS

Hanitiser · 22/07/2023 21:21

Fuuuuuccckkk that! What an absolute prick. You and your daughter deserve better.

I see you haven't come back since your original post. You may be reading in the background. It mightn't be easy to leave and start again but, I guarantee, it will absolutely be worth it. That's no way to live.

pigalow27 · 22/07/2023 21:22

Please do something so your relationship with your DD is not irreparably destroyed. She must feel so unloved and not valued. You can do so much better than this POS for a partner but you only have 1 DD

Swipe left for the next trending thread