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How can I salvage the friendship?

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electric5 · 15/07/2023 22:58

I’m not sure if this is a question or just a vent, but here goes. This post is about my friendship with two people, A and B.

I met A when I was 6 years old and we became best friends. We both met B when we were 13 and formed a close friendship trio type of thing, although I always remained closer to A – she was always my “best” friend. I’d go on holiday with her and her parents, and vice versa. We would spend a lot of time together as a 3, and I would often see A alone but rarely spent time with B alone.

We all stayed relatively local for uni although they both went to the same uni and I went to a different one. First and second year of uni we hung out often, but at the end of second year I started dating my now ex partner. My ex was very controlling and was older than me so he didn’t like me going to uni events and the like, would fall out with me if I went out with A+B, etc. I was young and stupid and blinded by “love” so acquiesced his demands and gradually spent less time with my friends and most of my time with him. I’d take ages to reply to them, be “busy” when they wanted to meet, would turn down going to events with them etc. This carried on throughout uni and by the time we graduated I’d only really see them once every 4 months or so.

I moved in with my ex right out of uni and saw A+B even less often, maybe once every 6 months. It was during this time that I attended A’s birthday party where she made a speech referring to B as her "best friend" and talked about all of the memories they’d shared during uni etc, and I honestly remember feeling genuinely heartbroken in that moment. The "best friend" thing hit me like a gut punch. I felt absolutely sick at the fact that we’d drifted so far apart and it was all because of my actions. Instead of trying to make it better, I convinced myself that A probably didn’t really care much about me any more and that the pair of them only invited me to things out of pity, so I pushed them further away. This all continued for about 4 more years, during which time A+B have been away on holiday together, taken up new hobbies together and generally just spent a load of time together without me. They would occasionally invite me to things, and I would usually go with them at that point because of how infrequent the invites were (especially toward the end of my relationship) but it was very clear that the dynamic had changed and I had become a relative outsider to their close friendship.

I’m now 25 and recently ended things with my ex and moved into a flat on my own. Toward the end of the relationship I started spending more time with A+B again, although things still aren’t really the same as they were before I met my ex. Whilst I enjoy seeing them both, I find myself longing for the close relationship I used to have with A – we were practically inseparable for the best past of 14 years, would speak on the phone all the time, knew everything that was going on in each other’s lives. She was the first person I’d call whenever I had news and vice versa. Recently I met her for a coffee where we reminisced over old memories and I literally cried the entire journey home, feeling so guilty and sad that I destroyed the close bond we had.

I should add that both A and I are from immigrant backgrounds, specifically from cultures where talking about feelings isn’t something that is done at all. It’s something I have struggled with my entire life. I know that some of you may suggest that A+B potentially recognise that I was isolated during my relationship with my ex, but the thing is, when I was with him that wasn’t the image I portrayed at all. I would spend a lot of time with him and his friends and family, and would post about it on social media etc. So I assume that A+B thought I was happy with my “new” friends and bothered with them less as a result, although that wasn’t the case at all – I didn’t particularly enjoy hanging out with my ex’s friends and I wasn’t particularly close to any of them.

Anyway, the point of my post is that B has recently announced that she has accepted a permanent job around 300 miles away and will be moving next month. This might make me sound like a terrible person and I’m willing to get flamed, but a part of me felt selfishly pleased about it. In my head it was a perfect opportunity to become closer to A again without B being there all the time. I suppose that is still my intention, but I obviously don’t want to actively weaken their friendship.

My question is basically how do I navigate this with A without coming across as insincere, or overbearing, or both. I feel that if I randomly start inviting her to a bunch of things then she might find it strange or suspicious. Her birthday is coming up, and we will probably end up going out for drinks. I have considered the option of writing her a letter basically explaining what I’ve said in this post, that I am sorry for being responsible for us drifting apart, and it wasn’t because I stopped wanting to be her friend, but that I lost sight of the friendship due to my toxic relationship… and that I love her very much and cherish our memories and hope that we can become as close as we once were. And giving this letter to her on her birthday when I know we’ll be drinking so it’ll be less awkward. Is that an absolutely terrible idea?

Anyway, if you have bothered to read all of my waffle then thank you. I’ll happily accept anything – advice, sharing of similar experiences, or even just straight up telling me I need to seek professional help! Anything will do, it just feels nice to get this off my chest.

OP posts:
DysmalRadius · 15/07/2023 23:11

I think I'd steer clear of making any big pronouncements for the time being. Apologise by all means but I wouldn't start making written plans to rebuild the relationship in the wake of the upheaval of B moving away.

goodmenandwomen · 16/07/2023 11:01

Until I read the part about B moving away I was going to suggest you forget it and just focus your efforts on finding new friends as IME friendships that are threes always end in someone being left out and its inevitable that it would be you.

I still think you would benefit from broadening your horizons and focussing on making new friends rather than dwelling on the past.

I think you also need to see the situation through A's eyes, you basically ditched her and regardless of the reason that will have hurt.

Turning her birthday into a big 'reveal' about your previously toxic relationship also sounds really narcissistic to me and as a friend I would be hurt if you did that to me.

I think you need to accept that your friendship has changed and that you probably won't become as close as you were in the past, but if that does happen it should happen organically rather than by you trying to force it.

I'm sorry for your toxic relationship but you do sound awfully wrapped up in your own self and not particularly thinking about what A wants and needs (again!)

IhearyouClemFandango · 16/07/2023 11:07

Tbh I speak from experience here, it's hard to go back once you have been ditched, for whatever reason. The easy familiarity and trust is hard to get back.

Don't make her birthday about you (to me if sounds like you would see your letter as you generously giving your friendship back to her as a present), and don't frame her losing her best friend as an opportunity for you in your mind. Both of those show a totally self absorbed frame of mind.

Socialise, invite her out, be 'normal'. See what happens going forward.

goodmenandwomen · 16/07/2023 11:33

Oh gosh I've just re-read the OP and clocked that it was at one of A's birthdays in the past that she announced that B was her best friend and you felt like you'd been gut punched.

So now you want to turn this birthday into you becoming her best friend again.

There is a lot going on for you, op, and it's probably subconscious. I think you'd benefit from counselling to recognise these patterns rather than thinking of making reactive plans.

I'm sorry your ex hurt you but it sounds like you hurt A (and rubbed it in boasting on social media).

You are likely to hurt her again reappearing suddenly single and interested in her again.

I think you need to work on yourself rather than this relationship. A sounds very patient with you so just appreciate your place as an acquaintance in her life is my best advice.

MichelleScarn · 16/07/2023 11:45

Agree with pp letter not good idea, it does come across as 'tada! Lucky you, I'm ready to be your friend again now am single'
Take your time and let the relationship naturally develop.

MeMyCatsAndMyBooks · 16/07/2023 11:54

Sounds like you're single and ready to be friends again, if one of my friends did this I'd be taking a wide birth from them.

DemonicCaveMaggot · 16/07/2023 12:03

Honestly if I got a letter declaring my friend's undying devotion to me I would run like the wind and not look back especially if I was from a culture where feelings are not usually expressed. It is too much of an emotional burden to feel like a friend's be all and end all.

Take the time to let your friendship with A get back into its natural rhythm and make sure you stay in good contact with B too and include her in as many outings and holidays as you can. Otherwise it may look as if you didn't want to be around B rather than because of your ex.

A three sided friendship is tough. It would be a good idea to expand the group a bit to avoid one feeling left out if two are doing something without them. You don't want that or to feel you have to live in each other's pockets to keep everything 'fair'.

Schoolchoicesucks · 16/07/2023 12:05

Well done on removing yourself from the controlling relationship. Friends A&B sound as though they are lovely people who have kept you in their lives as much as you have allowed them to do.

Well done also on recognising that your feelings of happiness at B moving away do not reflect well on you.

I would advise against making any written or otherwise proclamations to A about stepping back in as her best friend again.

It is too much pressure to put on this once close relationship.

Just allow yourself to enjoy spending the time with her and see how things pan out.

Many people don't have a "best" friend past primary school age.

I would also advise trying to make some other friends if you don't have many. You have gone from having A, then A&B, then your ex as dominating your relationships and social interactions. Putting all your eggs in one basket.

Things may never be the same with you and A again as when you were young children. That's ok. Relationships change.

Rainbowshine · 16/07/2023 12:12

The thing that struck me is that you seem to want everything to go back to how it was before. Understandable, I wouldn’t blame you for wanting to forget about the time you were in a bad relationship and it’s natural to want to go back to a situation that was fun and safe for you then. You come across as thinking that this friendship will always stay as it was if it weren’t for interfering B and the university situation. Actually your behaviour because of the relationship situation that changed it. And it’s changed forever, I would say enjoy the memories of the good times but don’t expect or depend on A wanting to rekindle the friendship with you. You are both different people now with different expectations of each other. I worry that you are putting A into a position that is very uncomfortable for them, where you are relying on them to be your “best friend”, which they don’t owe you and may not be an accolade that they have any interest in. You are putting pressure on them and that’s just going to push them away. So gently, gradually see if you have much in common and see if you are able to create a new reframed acquaintance, and let it develop naturally. And make a wider network of people and connections too. I would recommend some healing from the abuse would be helpful for you in managing your emotions with this as well.

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