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Relationship Salvageable?

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Dawny1879 · 12/07/2023 14:36

First post on Mumsnet - please be honest and polite, not sure I could hope with harsh criticisms at the moment. Sorry it's a long one.

Not really sure where to start, but I think my relationship is over. My partner and I have been together for 11 years, with DS 4 and DD just turned one. Four years into our relationship DP was diagnosed with MS (relapsing /remitting) and uses weed for his symptoms (although I think there is an element of addiction there). For various reasons (none really my DP's fault) he was a student for 7 years of our relationship. So I have been financially carrying us throughout this period. DP graduated and got an entry level job and because of his MS said he only wanted to work 3 days/week. So I have continued to carry us. He contributes £600 per month and I cover everything else (just over three times this). He can always afford to buy weed and vape juice even when we are really struggling.

He is not named on any bills/mortgage/finance and we share no joint accounts. Reluctantly he takes the kids on one of his days off and I am using up holiday accrued during mat leave to have them the remaining day of the week. This is the worst day of my week...he can't handle the two together and I can hear him shouting at our 4 year old throughout the day. His parents come in the afternoon to help him out. Round the house I do the lion share, however he does make meals and hangs out the washing if I ask. But does very little else. I do all the organisation with the kids and plan all the days out/experiences for the kids. A lot of the time I am with the kids by myself. I get that he has fatigue struggles and I do understand that, but it is just hard when I am working full time to come home to a riot (when he has been in all day).

At the start of the year he went off on sick from work for mental health reasons and told me that I have made him suicidal because I am "hounding" him back to work. Not the case - I just asked if there was a plan because we couldn't afford for him to be on sick pay for very long and he also hadn't made any attempt to help himself- start counselling and was refusing antidepressants. He has worked two days this year so far. Anytime the kids are off sick from nursery, I still need to take them or be close as he says that this is stopping him looking for work (he has applied for a total of 3 jobs since leaving in May). He raised a grievance with his employer and got a settlement to walk away...which took the pressure off us financially for a short period.

We cannot talk without him having a go, shouting at me or patronising me (even infront of the kids 😓, friends and family - which is embarrassing). He looks at a situation and sees it one way and I see it the complete opposite and there appears to be no meeting in the middle. His default is to blame and there is no acceptance that he needs to change anything. I am the bad person in all this...caused the rift /splitting the family apart and my DS lack discipline because of my parenting. I would happily live my life without arguments...it's really not in my nature, but I honestly feel tense all the time when he is around.

To try and prevent a split, I undertook counseling through my work and it didn't really help. I am devastated for my beautiful kids, but I am beginning to think two separate happy parents are better than two miserable together parents. I did say that I didn't want to be with him a few weeks ago, but he refused to accept it..and basically got nasty. In the meantime my mum's health hasn't been great, so I lost the strength to continue the momentum to split.

He will obviously have his side where I have wronged him, but from what I have described...is this at all salvageable for my kids sake?

OP posts:
RPost · 12/07/2023 14:50

This sounds awful, I'm so sorry for you. I have a 4 year old and 1 year old and the duo is tough. I would say anything is salvageable but only if he is willing to talk it through and acknowledge (for him to have a chance at changing). If he isn't willing to have an open and honest and calm conversation I dont know where you can go Xx

heldinadream · 12/07/2023 14:59

OP you've got a massive amount on your plate here, and I imagine feelings of guilt for wanting to split up with someone who has a chronic illness. But he's really not meeting you halfway. He should be willing to get some joint counselling and own his part in all of this.
If he won't and is wedded to everything being your fault you would be totally within reason to start looking at calling it a day.
You're in a really difficult place here. Good luck. Try putting you and the children at the centre of your choices.

Dawny1879 · 12/07/2023 18:51

@RPost @heldinadream thank you for taking the time to read and reply. It is a lot and I feel like I am at full capacity at the moment. Just desperately hoping that things will change. x

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Hardly123 · 12/07/2023 23:21

I think maybe it would be useful to speak to partners of people who have MS? Or to his doctor? He may simply not be able to work as much as either of you would like. MS can be crippling and if it's relapsing/remitting it's important to try and avoid a relapse. I do think that asking him if he has a plan as you can't afford for him to be on sick pay for very long is realistically not how a loving supportive relationship works.

If you can't make it work between the two of you then it probably is best to have two calm homes which are separate. However my feeling is that you are approaching the MS diagnosis without realising just how significant it is. He may never be able to work full time again. To be honest if I had been diagnosed with MS and my partner asked me what the plan was as we couldn't afford for me to be ill I might feel suicidal and depressed and angry too. It is a life altering disease and can significantly reduce life expectancy.

Sorry if that is harsh and perhaps I am unsympathetic. I have relatives with MS (one has now passed away aged 39) and they would not have been expected by their partner to work part time, do things round the house and do childcare... It is not realistic and would be cruel. Obviously the severity of MS varies per person however your post and expectations seem very strange to me.

Dawny1879 · 13/07/2023 06:57

@Hardly123 thank you for taking the time to read and respond. I do appreciate your perspective and I am very sorry about your loved one. 39 is far too young - life is very cruel.

I maybe wasn't clear, but he was not signed off work due to his MS - he had a falling out with his work and then went on the sick. His MS has been generally mild and under control since he started treatment. I know that won't always be the case and I do try to manage my expectations around the house and with the kids, as his main struggle is fatigue. I think where my frustration is, is his general angry temperament with me and towards our DS and his lack of motivation (to seek help/look for jobs/improve his life). He is more than content to stay in the house and do things that he enjoys - day trading, online poker etc or has the energy to drive 100 odd miles to buy (and pay for) weed. I don't expect him to work full time - WFH 3 days a week suited our family. I just feel that if he can sit on his computer all day doing things he likes - they equally he could be WFH on his computer.

I get frustrated as I feel like I am a bit of a door mat - working full time, paying for more than my fair share, majority of the housework and looking after kids, whilst putting up with constant criticism. Since having two kids I feel like I am standing up for myself more and calling him out on the inequality of the situation and not standing for the way he speaks to me and he doesn't like it.

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Hardly123 · 13/07/2023 10:58

Ah, I understand... Sorry to have been so critical

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