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Is it worth saving/trying again?

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CreatingHavoc · 03/07/2023 11:34

Me and my partner have had a difficult relationship and have split up once (he has moved out) and are now trying to work on ourselves and our relationship and wondering if we could make things work. There are several issues though.

My friends and family don't like him. He doesn't socialise well or relax around them and can't be himself. He never has, which is partly why they don't like him. He has always come across as rude and a bit of a braggart. Saying how great he is at stuff in front of people. He does this a lot anyway and although it makes me uncomfortable and is cringeworthy, I put up with it but when he does it in front of others it's really embarrassing. I've asked him why he does it and he says it's to boost his own confidence because "nobody else does". I'm not sure how to respond to that but nobody goes round telling me how great I am either so...

He will often try and leave social events early because insert any excuse he can think of and sometimes that means I have to leave early too, which bothers me. To clarify, he doesn't mind me staying out without him, sometimes it's just not practical. It's frustrating as he is a completely different person when it's just us or we are with his family/friends.

His rudeness still bothers me though and he only ever seems to be rude to women, not men. It's a red flag for me and I feel like he doesn't really respect women (including me) even though he says he does. He grew up with violent, abusive father though, so has a lot of underlying issues himself. He has said he will get therapy for this but hasn't yet. Along with this trauma we think he might have adhd. I've been having therapy for similar childhood trauma issues myself for a few months now and I'm encouraging him to do the same as I am starting to feel the benefits. That said, he has been very busy getting himself in shape with dieting and a fitness regime that he is doing really well with and is much fitter and healthier than he was before.

Something else that bothered me recently is that when we were discussing our relationship he said something along the lines of 'if I wasn't with you I'd be single, sexless and miserable. I wouldn't be a nice person'.
It's been bothering me as I've already discussed with him how I feel like he is only with me because of sex and to feel loved. I could be anyone. I don't feel like he loves me for who I am, I feel like he wants to be with me because I have sex with him and show him love. I feel objectified. Also, if we're together he gets to see the children more than if we weren't, so there's that too.

The reasons we split were many and varied, we were both at fault. He has been unpleasant more times than I can count, which caused me to develop feelings for someone else (nothing happened) and I'm terrible at communicating. I shut down whenever I feel uncomfortable and won't broach the subject until later on or often don't talk about it at all because the moment never arrives. I've been working on this a lot and we have had a lot more discussions recently but I still struggle to address things 'in the moment'.

We had such a lovely weekend away recently as a family unit, where we went to a wedding (his family) and we all had such a good time with no issues at all. He even talked about wanting us to get married in the future (probably caught up in the wedding vibes) but now we are back to reality, as it were, the spark has gone again for me. This happens to me regularly though. I struggle with decision making and question my decisions constantly. I flip flop from thinking it will work and we will be ok to thinking it's ridiculous, it won't work, we're too different, he's too difficult to deal with, so what's the point. I really don't know what to do.

Sorry, this turned long, was trying not to drip feed!

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 03/07/2023 11:43

There is nothing to rescue and or save here, too many red flags to count not least of all what your family think of him and he growing up with a violent and abusive father. He’s not wanting to seek therapy at all. You may also be wide of the mark re ADHD too. That’s no excuse either for what he has done.

Women are not rehab centres for such badly raised men nor is he a project . Walk away from him now and permanently. Work on rebuilding your own self worth and boundaries though counselling.

Eva6437 · 03/07/2023 11:50

walk Away… there’s too Many red flags.
Who wants to be with a rude misogenist? Walk away, if you have children together, make sure that things have ended smoothly so that the children are not stuck in the middle.

ChiliBeanz · 03/07/2023 11:56

Bragging to make oneself feel better is very narrow minded. Most everyone has something they can brag about and exaggerate to make themselves appear great…. Their fabulous house, their promotion at work, their new car, a wonderful holiday they were on … the list goes on and on. He should be aware of this, he’s not the only person in the world who has what he has, it sounds as though he needs a bit of a grounding.

It’s not your job to fix him. Nothing is an excuse for what he’s doing. As PP said, you don’t even know if he has ADHD. He has trauma from childhood but needs to work on that himself. You aren’t very sure about the relationship and have mentioned red flags etc and he has now moved out, I think you should be happy he has moved out, and make sure you take enough time from the relationship to see if you actually want to go back or not. If you are going back because you don’t want to feel lonely etc, then definitely don’t do it. I know you didn’t mention this but just if that’s a reason for you it shouldn’t be seen as one.

From what you’ve said, you’ve dodged a bullet letting him go. I’d be enjoying my time and peace and quiet in my life!

CreatingHavoc · 03/07/2023 12:34

@ChiliBeanz part of it is the loneliness but also my family are not particularly close (my choice, previous trauma and unpleasant mother) and I have minimal support with the children. I was very unwell over Christmas and for some time afterwards and without his help I wouldn't have coped. It is difficult because I need his help but I know that's not a reason to be with someone. Even when he does help he often hinders as well.

It often seems like, in our bubble, things work out ok. Him in his house, me and the children in ours. Having that distance but sort of maintaining a relationship. But as soon as we step outside in to reality or are faced with an issue or problem, it falls to pieces.

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CreatingHavoc · 03/07/2023 12:43

@AttilaTheMeerkat ordinarily I would tend to agree with the family not liking him thing but my family are all a bit messed up too. I don't have much contact with them. It's also difficult as my friends don't really know him.

He's definitely neurodiverse in some way or other, he has the hyper focus/special interests and terrible memory of a typical ADHD brain. He's obsessed by numbers as well.

I do think there are too many red flags though. I feel like things are fine as a casual arrangement but the minute things get serious it's falls apart.

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Happylady165 · 03/07/2023 12:43

I’m sorry OP but there are so many red flags here. I’d listen to your friends and family. I’ve had several family members and friends like this and usually if they don’t listen now, they end up wasting more time and then it still falling apart. You deserve better.

CrackerAndPudding · 03/07/2023 12:49

I wouldn't put your kids through such a roller coaster relationship tbh. I'd stay single, work on yourself and not consider a relationship til I was in a better place. I'd also want to see evidence he's working on his trauma issues before considering a relationship with him

Pinkbonbon · 03/07/2023 13:09

He sounds the very definition of an overt narcissist.

Run for the hills op.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 03/07/2023 15:16

You may think he is neurodiverse but again you may be wide of the mark here Quite apart from anything else there are so many other red flags re him that you must take heed of.

CreatingHavoc · 03/07/2023 18:01

@Pinkbonbon oh really? I'll have to have a google. I've often wondered about narcissism but he isn't wealthy or in a position of power at work. He has a huge and rather fragile ego and does crave admiration, wealth and promotion at work but has spent the majority of his life earning comparatively low wage by choice. It's only over the last few years that he changed career and has started earning a bit more than average and getting promotions and stuff.

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Pinkbonbon · 03/07/2023 18:20

There's plenty of narcissists that aren't high flyers.

Also plenty that aren't grandiose.
Covert narcissists are probably just as common if not more so than the overt, bragging sort.

I think it's called the dsm...it lists traits of narcissists. If you Google narcissist dsm. It's been changed now so that just two out of the traits listed on the dsm for npd is enough to point towards it.

Imo the only trait those sort of people I've met all share - is selfishness.

Pinkbonbon · 03/07/2023 18:23

Not sure if this is based on the list but...I'd count 3 out of 9 of those already from what you've said.

Is it worth saving/trying again?
Pinkbonbon · 03/07/2023 18:27

And the above is more based on the overt kind imo.

CreatingHavoc · 04/07/2023 11:58

@Pinkbonbon thanks for the info. I've done some reading and it does sound likely that he is narcissistic. Sadly I think my mother may be too. It probably doesn't help my many mental health issues, being around these people :(

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