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Divorce & New Baby

14 replies

Ddhs · 24/06/2023 11:31

I was wondering if anyone has gone through similar.

currently have my new gf living in house and ex wife left me and 3 kids 2 under 18. My new partner now lives with us, has 2 children and we are expecting. I am the children’s primary carer.

my ex is trying to push for a house sale but I have been told I can stay there till youngest is out of education. Which can be 2-3 years. Now I have another baby on the way will this make any difference in having to leave the house within this time. I’m planning on selling but just wanted to get an idea.

thanks

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Cheetahmum · 24/06/2023 11:39

Who told you you could stay in the house until children are out of education?
My understanding is that courts prefer a clean beak but you need actual legal advice. The division of assets, including the house, takes a huge number of factors into consideration so no one here will be able to tell you. You and your partner could buy your ex out of her share of the house for instance. But you really shouldn't be planning more kids if you can't afford them!

Hollyppp · 24/06/2023 11:51

It’s until you and your exes children are at a certain age. The new baby is separate from any agreement with your ex

kweeble · 24/06/2023 11:54

You’ve no automatic right to stay and your wife can go to court to force a sale. Clean breaks are more the norm now and you moving another family in and having another child shouldn’t affect your wife’s rights - she needs to be housed too.

ComeTheFuckOnBridgett · 24/06/2023 11:58

I can't imagine your ex not being allowed to sell her house because you've decided to have a baby with someone new? That's on you for not sorting somewhere else to stay before starting a new family, surely?

TomatoSandwiches · 24/06/2023 12:01

😂

beenwhereyouare · 24/06/2023 17:34

ComeTheFuckOnBridgett · 24/06/2023 11:58

I can't imagine your ex not being allowed to sell her house because you've decided to have a baby with someone new? That's on you for not sorting somewhere else to stay before starting a new family, surely?

Did you miss the part where the EXW left her children, or did you just choose to ignore that so you could score points? If his EX is constrained from selling the house it's NOT because he's having another baby. It would be due to their youngest being under 18, if they have that agreement in place.

You do realize that if the OP was a woman whose EXH had left, the house situation would be the same, don't you?

Cheetahmum · 24/06/2023 17:47

beenwhereyouare · 24/06/2023 17:34

Did you miss the part where the EXW left her children, or did you just choose to ignore that so you could score points? If his EX is constrained from selling the house it's NOT because he's having another baby. It would be due to their youngest being under 18, if they have that agreement in place.

You do realize that if the OP was a woman whose EXH had left, the house situation would be the same, don't you?

Did you miss the but where the OP's actual question is whether having his new partner's family and now a new baby on the way will impact how long he can stay in the house? It doesn't matter why the Ex left. His new baby won't have an impact on that arrangement. However there's no indication in the OP that they do have an arrangement in place. They're not yet divorced and he's just 'heard' he can stay in the house.

There are too many variables and the OP has given way too little info for any advice to be useful.

beenwhereyouare · 24/06/2023 18:46

Cheetahmum · 24/06/2023 17:47

Did you miss the but where the OP's actual question is whether having his new partner's family and now a new baby on the way will impact how long he can stay in the house? It doesn't matter why the Ex left. His new baby won't have an impact on that arrangement. However there's no indication in the OP that they do have an arrangement in place. They're not yet divorced and he's just 'heard' he can stay in the house.

There are too many variables and the OP has given way too little info for any advice to be useful.

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No, I didn't miss that.

My comment was aimed directly at another poster, @ComeTheFuckOnBridgett, for her smartarse remark that didn't directly answer the OP's question. Instead, she implied that he was doing something shady or underhand. "That's on you for not sorting somewhere else to stay before starting a new family, surely?" makes an accusation, which I think was unnecessary and mean-spirited.

You, on the other hand, have provided a reasonable, fair assessment of the post, but then you added "But you really shouldn't be planning more kids if you can't afford them!", which was very judgey. There was nothing in his post to indicate he was unable to afford the new baby.

I freely admit that the snarky criticism hit a button for me. I was abandoned by my father before I was even born, and 12 years later by the subsequent adoptive step-father who walked out on us (they had 2 children- my baby sister was less than a year old) leaving my STAHM to find a job, childcare, and a way to pay the mortgage. While he moved in with the OW and her small children. The ass never paid CMS or anything else and left us without caring if we had food or heat.

Am I biased against a parent leaving their kids? Was I judgey? Yes. I admire parents who stay and care for their children. There's no way I would have left my kids, short of my own death. Instead of criticizing, maybe give OP the benefit of the doubt.

Cheetahmum · 24/06/2023 19:15

Fair enough @beenwhereyouare . Sorry for what you and your family went through and totally understand these things may hit a nerve.

My comment probably was judgy. I didn't really mean it to come off like that but at the same, the OP can't just move on and have a new baby and expect that to have an impact on his agreement with his ex. This house is for him and his kids with the ex. Moving on to have new kids doesn't extend the shelf life of any agreement and he probably should've thought of that

beenwhereyouare · 24/06/2023 20:00

Thank you for that.

I totally agree that the new baby has no bearing on the house situation. If there is no legal agreement in place, he'll probably have to sell, regardless.

speluncean · 24/06/2023 20:05

What you're doing is expecting your ex to subsidise your new child.

You must realise that's not going to happen.

Your ex has no obligation to house your new baby.

SunflowerTed · 24/06/2023 23:25

I’m just wondering why people want 6 children?!!?!?!

ComeTheFuckOnBridgett · 24/06/2023 23:33

@beenwhereyouare there's no point scoring or trying to be a 'smartarse' as you put it - It says in the OP that he could have the house another 2-3 years while their kids are in education. It doesn't matter why the ex left. Why would she need to house her ex's new family?

Lefteyetwitch · 25/06/2023 00:02

Mesher orders are rarely granted.
The house most likely will be sold.
You will more than likely be able to negotiate a higher percentage.

You will be able to claim CM depending on the amount of nights the children spend with you.

New children will not be considered at all in the proceedings. Expect in the event that NRP gains more dependents and then CMS will be reduced.

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