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Domestic violence one off?

50 replies

OldEnglishJedia · 22/06/2023 08:59

I came on here a few weeks ago about discovering my OH was having an affair.
I got absolutely flamed. It was horrific. I left Mumsnet as a result.
Please be kind. I am very fragile.
I stayed with husband after affair which lasted two months. Ended when I found out. No contact since.
I have found it very very difficult to stop spiralling and thinking about the affair.
we have tried to get back on track.
sometimes it goes quite well. other times not so well.
I told OH, I was going to even up the score and do exactly what he did.
To this end I went online and met someone and arranged to meet with them.
husband hacked my phone, and contacted the man and told him to delete his online profile and never contact me again.
We went to a friend’s house the other evening and had a lovely time. I had one small glass of wine.
husband a strong gin and tonic.
got home and I was on my phone in one room- I often am, and husband in kitchen.
OH became angry that I was online again, probably talking to men and started drinking heavily. He dragged up some inappropriate texting I did nearly twenty years ago, with my ex, on one occasion. He posted about it on Reddit pretending it had just happened.
he then used the vitriolic responses to goad and taunt me.
I went to bed. I barricaded bedroom door.
he broke the door down, came in drunk and shouting. I was literally lying in bed trying to sleep. I had told him not to come in.
suddenly I was covered in beer. As I gasped and tried to get up, I felt a huge explosion in my face- he had thrown his heavy glass tankard at me and it had shattered on my nose. I was covered in glass.
if I hadn’t had my eyes closed from the initial hit of beer, I would have been blinded. I really believe that.
I got up, thinking I was wet from the beer, but when I opened my eyes I was soaked in my own blood.
he was immediately remorseful, trying to help.
I got out and went to the bathroom to try and remove the glass from my face.
I was in agony.
I have lacerations to my forehead, now I have two black eyes, and a suspected broken nose.
he offered to call an ambulance and hand himself in to the police but I stopped him.
I don’t want the shame, stigma, our children would be devastated. We would lose our lovely home.
my father is terminally sick and I am dealing with that too.
i couldn’t drive. I had a bath, tried to stem the blood flow and he said- I will drink coffee and sober up and take you to hospital. He did.
I lied about what happened.
I had 15 shards of glass removed from my face.
stitches.
glue.
my nose will heal and not require surgery.
I will be scarred for life.
he has never been violent, and never cheated, in nearly twenty years of marriage.
he said I had goaded him by speaking to someone else online.
he said he was drunk, and that he will seek help for that- he has.
How can I ever trust him again?
I have had to move bedrooms because I am so triggered and panicked by the fact it happened in my safe place- in my bed, at home, that I cannot sleep in that room again.
I love him, and just cannot equate his behaviour with who I thought he was.
he has been under a huge amount of pressure financially and personally. But so have I.
I hit him and pulled his hair recently on more than one occasion about the affair. He says that makes me a domestic abuser too.
but I wouldn’t dream of glassing him which is effectively what he did. I have never ever experienced violence and I am so traumatised by it. I keep having flashbacks.

OP posts:
OldEnglishJedia · 22/06/2023 09:19

Got blind drunk on a business trip. Says he has had some sort of breakdown.

OP posts:
EllaRaines · 22/06/2023 09:20

I don't see how the pair of you will recover from this.

Your marriage may have been great for twenty years but then it has descended into an affair, petty jealousy and insecurity on both sides and domestic violence from both of you, with you hair pulling and him glassing you. Misuse of alcohol also seems to be at play.

What a mess you have both created.

For the sake of yourselves and your children you need to split up as you are always both going to be bickering about who did what and who goaded who blah blah blah.

HorribleNecktie · 22/06/2023 09:21

Leave him. This relationship sounds fucking awful.

Elieza · 22/06/2023 09:22

I’m sorry you’re all going through this. Presumably your relationship had become stale after 20 years, perhaps no sex, perhaps grown apart. And that’s why he cheated. He wanted more. Violence isn’t acceptable though. From either of you.

You setting out to even the score after he had presumably apologised and you were trying to sort your relationship, seems to be what had driven him to harm you.

I know the place you were coming from and I get that. But tbh you’d have been better leaving him if you couldn’t hack him. And nobody would blame you for dumping a guy that had an affair.

Your post says: “I don’t want the shame, stigma, our children would be devastated. We would lose our lovely home. my father is terminally sick and I am dealing with that too.”

Im sorry your father is so unwell. That’s really sad and you probably crave stability. However I don’t get the rest of your paragraph. There’s no stigma nowadays. Kids are resilient. Your ‘lovely home’ you can’t even sleep in now after what he did! Na. You’re making excuses.

You know it’s time to leave him. You’d be better posting about advice on how best to split up. Even just temporarily.

Some rent a flat which parents take turns staying in while the others in the family home. Sometimes the dad moves to a flat while mum stays home. It friend in you teenagers ages. 13 needs you more than 18 who is adult.

I think you may be posting here to show him what we say. I think you won’t act on our advice. Sorry if I’m wrong.

Honestly I’d have to split as I think you’re relationship has broken down irretrievably. Staying for the kids isn’t the answer.

Im truly sorry about your dad though.

GoodChat · 22/06/2023 09:23

OldEnglishJedia · 22/06/2023 09:19

Got blind drunk on a business trip. Says he has had some sort of breakdown.

Got blind drunk for 2 months?

OldEnglishJedia · 22/06/2023 09:24

Elieza · 22/06/2023 09:22

I’m sorry you’re all going through this. Presumably your relationship had become stale after 20 years, perhaps no sex, perhaps grown apart. And that’s why he cheated. He wanted more. Violence isn’t acceptable though. From either of you.

You setting out to even the score after he had presumably apologised and you were trying to sort your relationship, seems to be what had driven him to harm you.

I know the place you were coming from and I get that. But tbh you’d have been better leaving him if you couldn’t hack him. And nobody would blame you for dumping a guy that had an affair.

Your post says: “I don’t want the shame, stigma, our children would be devastated. We would lose our lovely home. my father is terminally sick and I am dealing with that too.”

Im sorry your father is so unwell. That’s really sad and you probably crave stability. However I don’t get the rest of your paragraph. There’s no stigma nowadays. Kids are resilient. Your ‘lovely home’ you can’t even sleep in now after what he did! Na. You’re making excuses.

You know it’s time to leave him. You’d be better posting about advice on how best to split up. Even just temporarily.

Some rent a flat which parents take turns staying in while the others in the family home. Sometimes the dad moves to a flat while mum stays home. It friend in you teenagers ages. 13 needs you more than 18 who is adult.

I think you may be posting here to show him what we say. I think you won’t act on our advice. Sorry if I’m wrong.

Honestly I’d have to split as I think you’re relationship has broken down irretrievably. Staying for the kids isn’t the answer.

Im truly sorry about your dad though.

thanks for your reply. No, I’m definitely not posting here to show him responses. I’m trying to avoid arguments.

OP posts:
BadNomad · 22/06/2023 09:24

You going to "even up the score" by knifing him in his sleep?

Your relationship is so toxic. Neither of you are acting out of love. Just anger and jealousy.

Igmum · 22/06/2023 09:43

It is never a one off. Please report him and leave.

Missingmyusername · 22/06/2023 09:46

I could never forgive anyone that did that. What would you do if this happened to your children? You need to call it a day.

Thoughtful2355 · 22/06/2023 09:53

your both toxic together. But this wont be a one off. its just a one off UNTIL the next time. He shattered a glass upon your face for god sake, i could never get so drunk or angry that i could ever do that to my husband.

You are covering for him. You are allowing him to do it and saying its ok

Llamadramass · 22/06/2023 09:54

Jesus Christ and I thought me and hubby went through a rough patch. This is just toxic

twoandcooplease · 22/06/2023 09:54

I am trying to imagine the fear I would have if my DP, the person I love trust and believe to protect me, wakes me up smashing a glass into my face

I could never close my eyes again

Some are just as toxic as the other person and it balances the relationship out. I don't think you should stay after this it's scarily frightening that anything can happen while you sleep

LIZS · 22/06/2023 09:56

@OldEnglishJedia you don't consider his affair, drinking, excuses, gaslighting a form of abuse? Yes you have also contributed but the line has been crossed.

mayorofcasterbridge · 22/06/2023 09:59

He has so so far crossed a line with his violence - you can never trust him again, so get rid x

Woodywoodpeckerharrison · 22/06/2023 10:00

You have to leave. Your relationship will never recover from this. He has cheated on you and smashed glass into your face. This is not the life you or your children deserve and you must leave. Please.

greyhairnomore · 22/06/2023 10:09

It's never a one off. The hospital will know what happened.
What he did was horrific but you've said you've hit him as well.
So you've both committed domestic violence.
I feel sorry for the children having lived through it myself.
There will be a horrible atmosphere in their home now.

greyhairnomore · 22/06/2023 10:10

OldEnglishJedia · 22/06/2023 09:19

Got blind drunk on a business trip. Says he has had some sort of breakdown.

Twice ?

YoSof · 22/06/2023 10:29

This relationship is beyond salvageable, it is toxic and dangerous and will be damaging your children whether you see it or not.

It has to end. Now.

BubziOwl · 22/06/2023 11:13

The backstory is irrelevant imo, he has committed an incredibly serious assault against you. There's no coming back from this. Please leave him asap

Ihaveoflate · 22/06/2023 11:16

This is not what reconciliation looks like, and I speak as someone currently reconciling with my husband after his infidelity.

Neither of you is showing any sign of being a good candidate for reconciliation. Your relationship has broken down beyond repair imo. It's utterly toxic and you need to work out how to separate as amicably as possible for your children.

twoandcooplease · 22/06/2023 14:54

@OldEnglishJedia are you okay op? Xx

Naunet · 22/06/2023 15:21

I’m sorry OP, but I can’t tell you to work on this relationship, it wouldn’t be ethical. It may have been good in the past but it has become deeply toxic. You can’t forgive his affair (and you have no duty to do so), but you can’t decide to stay with him and then do the same. That doesn’t help anything. If you can’t forgive, you have to leave, your kids don’t get a say in it.

Secondly, him throwing his glass in your face is unforgivable. It sounds like you’ve both(?) been physical in the past with your hair pulling comment, but this is clearly escalating. He’s also blaming you for it saying you provoked him, rather than taking responsibility.

I understand that the thought of ending your marriage can be overwhelming, but you cannot stay. It’s dangerous and unhealthy.

Itstimetoquit · 22/06/2023 15:33

This is so toxic,why would you want to get even and message another man (just weird),you shouldnt be together...simple!

Bookworm20 · 22/06/2023 15:44

OP you need to leave him. Does not matter if the dc do not want you to divorce. there is no coming back from that.

Pulling hair, though obviously not great, is no where in the same category as having a glass tankard smashed in your face.

It sounds like he has pushed you to your limit and he has reached his.

I know you say he didn't have any affair before but maybe you just didn't know about them, so easy for him to keep it all nice and peaceful. Now you've rocked the boat by finding out and he sounds as though he really really does not like being challenged. you've tipped him over the edge by threatening to do the same. He has shown you how very capable he is of 'putting you back in your place'.

Please, if you don't report him for the assault, leave him. What he did, even in a moment of anger, is completely and utterly horrific. You will never know if he'll do anything to you again when you push his buttons.

roses321 · 22/06/2023 15:51

This sounds similar to the relationship I have just come out of although nothing this bad ever happened in terms of injury.

He cheated, and the thing is - you'll spend the rest of you're time not trusting him and it'll eat away at you. That's what happened to me.

You were not right to do what you did in terms of running off and doing the same thing - super destructive but I completely understand the anger and hurt I really do. But don't do it, it'll only damage you more.

As for the physical violence, I don't know the context of the hitting and pulling his hair but look, you know it's wrong, so you need to take a step back and ask yourself why.

As for what he's done... cheating and then having the audacity to injure you for your reaction to it... sorry but you need to leave. You really do.

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