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Why do I feel so threatened by my cousin Rachel

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MotherOfAllNameChanges15 · 21/06/2023 23:43

Well, she's not my cousin but my MIL but somehow this situation reminds me of the book My Cousin Rachel by Daphne du Maurier. At least what I vaguely remember from it. I read it decades ago and if the book is actually about fluffy rabbits on a ship then ignore my rambling. Or maybe ignore this bit anyway. It's going to be a long one anyway.

My mil is a remarkable person in many ways. Professionally very successful, incredibly generous with both her money and her time, does tons for other people and she is very appreciated in her community. Except for close family everyone seems to love her and admire her. Her close family though (ie siblings, husband and her son (my dh)) find her overbearing, over involved and over dominating. I did too when I first met her but then she started treating me differently. More respectfully and less pushy. We got along reasonably well and I used to enjoy her company. Till this year.

I don't know how to put it without sounding crazy but I feel like she's trying to take over my kids, primarily my older daughter. DD is 8 and loves all her grand parents, which I'm very happy about. However, I feel since last year she's starting to obsessively try to involve herself in dd's life when she's here. (She lives abroad and comes to visit once or twice a year for about a month..no problem with that, I don't mind). She follows her around, (including the toilet, which DD loves because she dislikes being on her own anywhere), keeps taking DD on "dates", accompanies me on the school run twice a day. She's even made friends with the other mums at the school gate. Nothing really terrible but I feel she's just involving herself too much. Everything that dh usually does for dd, she does when she's here. Eg dh and me alternate putting the kids to bed and when it's his turn she does it for him. (When it's my turn she asks me or DD if she can but I usually say no because I get so little time with DD otherwise). She also gets involved in all decision-making about the kids (eg about medical care, birthday parties, etc) and expects us to follow her advice. She undermines us in front of the kids. Me sometimes and subtly but dh full on and all the time. Dh gets very annoyed with her (she's also made friends with all of his friends, which I find very strange and they separately maintain contact) but at the end of the she's his mum and he's happy for the help. She basically acts like a third parent when she's here and it grates on me.

Again I know that none of this sounds too concerning and just like a loving, caring grand mum but it's just making me feel uneasy, which is what is reminding me of my cousin Rachel.

One thing I find very concerning is that she's got form in alienating her nephew and niece from her siblings. She thinks her siblings aren't fit to parent and are not making the best decisions for the kids. So she's taken them in, given them part time jobs in her company and is basically running their lives for them. The kids in question are adults now but both are ND and have special needs). I used to agree that her siblings are somewhat neglectful but I know she's got a very unhealthy relationship with her siblings (who resent her for being over involved and pushy) and now I wonder if the relationship between the kids and the parents deteriorated because of mil's meddling, mil trying to take over and acting as if she's their parent. I know I'm a good parent (well, I try to do my best) but now I worry whether in her quest to be involved in dd's life we will get pushed out as well.

I'm sorry this is getting so long and there's so much more I want to write. So many things that are making me uncomfortable but I suspect I've lost most people by now. If you are still reading, thank you. Please tell me I'm being unreasonable and ungrateful and i should give my head a wobble. I had dd2 last year and I've been kind of heart broken and feeling very guilty that I don't have as much time as I used to for DD1 so maybe that's why I'm so resentful. I don't know and I don't know what to do about it. Probably nothing because I'm paranoid for no reason but I can't stop feeling this way.

OP posts:
MotherOfAllNameChanges15 · 22/06/2023 14:24

Thanks everyone for your replies and for trying to help me figure this out. I will try and reply in more detail later today or probably tomorrow as I've got too much work today. Just saying because I don't what pp to think I've disappeared after you've put in effort into your replies.

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MotherOfAllNameChanges15 · 22/06/2023 14:28

Lattelattecappucino · 22/06/2023 12:35

@SandTigerSharkFart

Yep I think that's the one

There's seemingly a few potatentially narcissistic mil traits from what the op @MotherOfAllNameChanges15 has said

....on another note, I'd recommend the Sarah Ockwell Smith second baby book to the op- it's not about in laws or boundaries but for me it has been cheap therapy as the mum guilt is real, you try and split yourself in two meeting the needs of the small people and you feel like youcant do right for wrong, ime.

Just quickly. Thank you. Thank you (also to the previous poster who said it's an epic change going to two kids) for acknowledging the guilt. It's really eating me up and driving me crazy, which personally I think might be why I feel so threatened by Mil. I mean I don't feel just guilty but also (while I love dd2 to bits) I just miss spending time with dd1.

I'll have a look at that book.

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aloris · 22/06/2023 14:38

She gets plenty of time with your dd, two months fulltime in your home, from what you say. Maybe discourage DH from taking DD to visit her, as it will give MIL an opportunity to, well, indoctrinate her in her own ideas. Also considering you get little time with your dd, it's YOUR time with her that should be maximised, not your MIL's.

You may need to say something about her undermining you and your dh, especially if she does it in front of the children. Her interfering in your parenting decisions when she visits, is a hazard of such long visits and a reason many people don't have them. Maybe you and your dh can come to an arrangement that you will tell her if she keeps interfering in your parenting she will not be invited back.

pimplebum · 22/06/2023 14:50

She can't take over if you and DH have a joint plan to tackle her

The bed times is the first one , " no no you sit down me and DH do bedtimes it's our special routine and we want to keep it that way "

You can't really unfortunately allow her to do the odd bedtime as she will claw her way fully back in.

You literally need to. Agree a script together

Plan what she may say back and just say " mil no we do bedtimes thank you"

And get shorter and less sweeter

" you are not doing bedtimes thank you "

As for parties and medical just say " we will think about your suggestions but may not run with that idea in the end "

Thank you for sharing your opinion I'm not certain that is what we are going to do "

Shit down further discussions with a sharp change of conversation the trick is not to ever justify your reasons
A simple "that is not what we want to do " said neutrally ....Or "sit down I'm doing it thank you ". What do you think of harry and Megan hey !

cassiatwenty · 22/06/2023 17:58

It's more common than you think for DW and MIL to have this competitive vibe with each other I'm afraid

HVPRN · 22/06/2023 19:02

Is MIL lonely?

BeverlyHa · 22/06/2023 19:09

oh my goodness lady.....RUN

WaterIris · 22/06/2023 20:33

Boundaries. So when she wants to come along to a medical appointment, say no. If she asks why, explain that you are happy to take your daughter yourself and you don't need MIL there. If she pushes then push right back with a simple "I'm her Mum and I am dealing with it".

I wouldn't respond to daily texts and calls. And I'd ask for the holiday to be delayed until you can all go together.

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